Bergen Community College - One of the...

Bergen Community College - One of the Best in New Jersey

There are 21 comments on the Associated Content story from Feb 4, 2011, titled Bergen Community College - One of the Best in New Jersey. In it, Associated Content reports that:

Looking to receive an excellent education but want to stay local? Maybe you are looking to go back to school and don't have a lot of money to space? Why not consider Bergen Community College Neighborhood: a community college in your state? Community colleges aren't what they used to be, they're bigger and better.

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Mark

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Feb 5, 2011
This is not completely accurate. Though it is true that the facility is great, the tenured and F.T. professors are pretentious, 2/3 of the faculty are adjuncts, and the staff is perfunctory.

The tenured and F.T. professors are arrogant and extremely disparaging toward the students. Since the classes are overcrowded, the F.T. faculty is rendered inaccessible and asking a question during class is received as an interruption. The last professor I had must have been 80 years old who made the generational gap extremely detrimental to the learning environment.

Adjuncts being 2/3 of the faculty are simply at the disposal of the extremely political and aged F.T. and tenured faculty. Their schedules are subject to change 3 days prior to the commencement of classes allowing them little or no time to prepare for a 16-week semester.

Bergen Community College is not student centered at all. The classroom population is too large and 2/3 of the faculty are adjuncts that do not keep office hours, so If a student wants extra help, they must go to the tutoring center for it.

The tutoring center consists mainly of student tutors that are, arrogant, hygiene deficient, and the male student tutors constantly flirt with the female student body. The English Language Resource Center consists mainly of student tutors that impart the wrong information or interrupt the 1 qualified teacher, who is working with a student, with a question that the tutor should have been able to answer. Because the student teachers are untrained, the qualified teacher who has a Master's Degree is tutoring at a minimum of 5 students per hour while earning no more than 13.00 for that hour.

Do not expect any help from the Financial Aid Department or the Administration since they are there only to serve their perfunctory role. If you do not ask a specific question, they will not volunteer any information that will facilitate your task.

So, you may be saving money in the short term, you are getting exactly what you pay for. If you go to BCC, you are on your own, and you better know which school you want to transfer to to earn your BA because you will take courses that are not transferable.
unknown

Paramus, NJ

#2 Feb 7, 2011
Sure there are many flaws with going to BCC. For example, if you are register with the Specialized Services, sometimes they're not always trained to handle students on the Autism spectrum. Also depending on what tutor you received extra help, they can not always assist you in that particular subject. However let's at the positive aspects of going to this community college. Bergen has a great Public Access TV studio in room W-120, if students are interested broadcasting. I seriously recommend taking advantage of their broadcasting programs that they offer. I have also heard that employers are looking for students that are into anime/manga drawings. So getting involve in the anime club, might actually lead you to employment.
Also, if students are not interested in attending a four year school, they should look into many of the certificate programs. Particular, if a student is weak in both writing and math skills, maybe getting certificate isn't a bad idea. Bergen has certificates in Horticulture and many other programs including allied health.
Not everybody goes to community college for the same reasons. So it is good to plan whether you're going to transfer or settle for a certificate program way in advance. As for tutors flirting with other students, I believe that it was just a rumor to scare students into not seeking a degree.
Abe Lincoln

Miami, FL

#3 Feb 7, 2011
Now don't you guys wish you were paying attention in high school?
unknown

Paramus, NJ

#4 Feb 7, 2011
Abe Lincoln wrote:
Now don't you guys wish you were paying attention in high school?
Just out of curiousity, what do you mean by that comment?
Mark

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Feb 7, 2011
"I believe that it was just a rumor to scare students into not seeking a degree." I believe in garden elves, but that does not make them true. I was a tutee and I was hit on all the time. The point I was trying to make was that they need more qualified personal to work along side the student tutors and that they should be compensated for their skill and knowledge. I see by your silence that you agree with me about the tenured and FT faculty being pretentious, political, and aged.
jimbo

Fair Lawn, NJ

#6 Feb 7, 2011
Mark wrote:
This is not completely accurate. Though it is true that the facility is great, the tenured and F.T. professors are pretentious, 2/3 of the faculty are adjuncts, and the staff is perfunctory.
The tenured and F.T. professors are arrogant and extremely disparaging toward the students. Since the classes are overcrowded, the F.T. faculty is rendered inaccessible and asking a question during class is received as an interruption. The last professor I had must have been 80 years old who made the generational gap extremely detrimental to the learning environment.
Adjuncts being 2/3 of the faculty are simply at the disposal of the extremely political and aged F.T. and tenured faculty. Their schedules are subject to change 3 days prior to the commencement of classes allowing them little or no time to prepare for a 16-week semester.
Bergen Community College is not student centered at all. The classroom population is too large and 2/3 of the faculty are adjuncts that do not keep office hours, so If a student wants extra help, they must go to the tutoring center for it.
The tutoring center consists mainly of student tutors that are, arrogant, hygiene deficient, and the male student tutors constantly flirt with the female student body. The English Language Resource Center consists mainly of student tutors that impart the wrong information or interrupt the 1 qualified teacher, who is working with a student, with a question that the tutor should have been able to answer. Because the student teachers are untrained, the qualified teacher who has a Master's Degree is tutoring at a minimum of 5 students per hour while earning no more than 13.00 for that hour.
Do not expect any help from the Financial Aid Department or the Administration since they are there only to serve their perfunctory role. If you do not ask a specific question, they will not volunteer any information that will facilitate your task.
So, you may be saving money in the short term, you are getting exactly what you pay for. If you go to BCC, you are on your own, and you better know which school you want to transfer to to earn your BA because you will take courses that are not transferable.
your right about courses being non transferable i know a student who wanted to study music at william paterson they made him take the same courses over a scheme to get more money out of you he wasted a lot ao time and never got any where as a musician it may be a waste to go to college with no draft and every job going to pakistan you dont see hugh hefner going to college do you
Abe Lincoln

Miami, FL

#7 Feb 8, 2011
unknown wrote:
<quoted text>
Just out of curiousity, what do you mean by that comment?
I meant that if you applied yourselves in high school maybe you wouldn't have to worry about the goings on at a 2nd rate community college. You could have attended a real university.
anti- rap - rap

Hackensack, NJ

#8 Feb 8, 2011
Abe Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
I meant that if you applied yourselves in high school maybe you wouldn't have to worry about the goings on at a 2nd rate community college. You could have attended a real university.
there is a lot of time wasteing in high school its hard to know what you should really pay attention to some teachers dont teach anything just have discussions is it that important what a football player wants to be when he grows up is it that important what the word jew means in shakespere the teachers dont even know they should close the schools and have home school you progress at the rate of the slowest student in the classroom

who is accepted to a university is often determined by secret handshakes more than acedemic record
Abe Lincoln

Miami, FL

#9 Feb 9, 2011
I agree with you that one of the problems is that you are taught at a slow pace, but I have to disagree with everything else. To be accepted to university takes nothing more than good grades, and a few other very public requirements. If you do not do well and want to be accepted into a prestigious school, I'm sure backroom deals come in to play, but not for 99.9% of the population.

A well rounded education is important no matter where you think your life will take. How many high school football players make it to the NFL? If you don't, you still need an education to make something of yourself. Use football as a way to get you an education, not as excuse to ignore it.
youtube

Richmond Hill, NY

#10 Feb 10, 2011
what good does a well rounded education do you if you cant get a job [ when you call sears your talking to pakistan ]a college could teach you what you really need to know to be a professional in a year if they cut out the crap they just want your money for four years
Abe Lincoln

Miami, FL

#11 Feb 10, 2011
The reason you can't see why a well rounded education is important is the same reason you think the only reason to be educated is to get a good job.
JIM

Paramus, NJ

#12 Feb 20, 2011
Abe Lincoln wrote:
The reason you can't see why a well rounded education is important is the same reason you think the only reason to be educated is to get a good job.
Thats not true if your the princess of monanco and you never have to get a job you can get a well rounded education for the fun of it or just study one frivulous subject like philosophy but with every job going to pakistan you may be wasteing your money you can read a well rounded amount of books and save money people are complaining that the instructors in BCC arent doing their job [college students are really like indentured servants in hock to them ] I used to get phone calls from people that wanted me to write a report for them I said if i write it the teacher will know that you didnt and youll get in trouble somebody was thrown out for plagarism for doing that I found out later that there are clandestien report companys that claim if you pay them they can write a report so that it looks like a B+ student wrote an A- report and the teacher cant tell .
Jasmine

Newark, NJ

#13 Feb 23, 2011
Bergen cc isn't one of the best in NJ that's for sure did 2 semesters there and had to escape. It has to much of a high school like atmosphere. It often attracts a negative crowd (Example: Fresh high school grads that are there to hangout and into drugs sex and partying) I admit there were some adults serious about education though. A lot of people have no respect for the campus sneaking off to smoke behind bushes etc. In bergen you take this placement test before you enter and mostly everyone ends up having to take special courses which are only credited towards bergen and if you do badly in it you have to take it over again and it just feels like you never finish no matter how hard you try. It's too much of a common starting ground it seems like locals just go there because it's easy to get in etc. if you don't feel like running into everyone you know avoid this school. Also some of the professors I really didn't care for. The parking is terrible and the prices are inflated dramatically. This school is so far from everything. I just have absolutely nothing positive to say about this school. If you enjoy it good for you but I didn't.
Jasmine

Newark, NJ

#14 Feb 23, 2011
I also agree with everything mark said you are really on your own. Financial aid doesn't care what happens and I had this old speech teacher who was rude and arrogant like most of the professors. He didn't make it clear that you had to type up a assignment he assigned and when you handed it in on regular paper he flipped out.Also the professors are really uncaring sometimes saying things like "This isn't hs." for every little thing. They also can be very unempathetic if you have to balance a job and school they don't care if your absent even 1 to many times they pretty much say "You should've thought about that before you took the course." No one tries to help you. All the professors aren't bad but the majority of them are atrocious.
Jasmine

Newark, NJ

#15 Feb 23, 2011
Abe Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
I meant that if you applied yourselves in high school maybe you wouldn't have to worry about the goings on at a 2nd rate community college. You could have attended a real university.
I don't think everything is always in black and white some people that received good grades in HS just want to go to bergen for some reason maybe they are shy and want to get the feel of college. Maybe they are having some big financial issues and want to stay local to help their family out. Maybe they choose bergen because it's easier to commute back and forth. I highly doubt everyone in Bergen is just there because "They didn't get good grades." etc. that's just silly.
Frances

United States

#16 Aug 16, 2011
For every Negative comment I must say I highly DISAGREE!!! It's my last Semester in BCC and Transfering out by Jan..My experience in this school has been the best!! Is all up to you and how much you really want to accomplish!!! & no other tutors like BCC (especially in the math Department!!)) I love this School & so proud to say I will be a BCC graduate soon!!!

Since: Aug 11

Springfield, VA

#17 Aug 28, 2011
For whatever the reason: not paying attention in HS, maturity, financial, best option, better value, location, it doesn't matter. The important thing thankfully BCC is there and helped launch countless numbers of students become contributing members of society.

I graduated from BCC in 1982 and went on to get my B.A. and M.S. The BCC professors were exceptional esp.,. Madame Silverberg (French) who was so motivating, I used 2 of my electives on additional French classes.

So everyone's situation is different. It's not just about where you go, it's all about what you do with your time. BCC is an excellent enabling and quality institution and all of it's staff and students should be proud of their accomplishments.
I farted

Fort Gibson, OK

#18 Aug 29, 2011
youtube wrote:
what good does a well rounded education do you if you cant get a job [ when you call sears your talking to pakistan ]a college could teach you what you really need to know to be a professional in a year if they cut out the crap they just want your money for four years
Telling it like it is. I like that. It's true this whole country needs to restructure our college system. Most college courses are a waste of time and money. A four year degree should really only take 2 years.

College is big business. It's all about profit and employing people that never left the world of academia and have no real skills so they lecture on subjects that are irrelevant. We need subject relevant academies in this country and more apprenticeships.
JOHNNY COOL

Paramus, NJ

#20 Oct 3, 2011
The president of BCC had to resign because he was embezalling he hired the head of security who was the cheif of the ridgewood police when the cop raped a girl in the police car and had to resign from the ridgewood police BCC should get rid of this faulty head of security there can be sanctions against the college boycotts class action suits
BBC alumni

Houston, TX

#21 Nov 10, 2011
I farted wrote:
<quoted text>
Telling it like it is. I like that. It's true this whole country needs to restructure our college system. Most college courses are a waste of time and money. A four year degree should really only take 2 years.
College is big business. It's all about profit and employing people that never left the world of academia and have no real skills so they lecture on subjects that are irrelevant. We need subject relevant academies in this country and more apprenticeships.
When I went to BCC in 1972-74 it was one new building with most of the classes being a room, your book(s) and a teacher and it cost 6 dollars a credit. They never should had developed such a big infra structure. They should had stuck with the trailers and the reasonable cost.

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