Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17305 Jan 14, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
All recent nominees have pledged that they uphold the idea of "Stare Decisis", respect for precedent. However, it is obvious that the conservative SCOTUS Judges would like nothing better than to overturn Roe vs. Wade, and would do it in a second if they had the numbers. Likewise, the Citizens United decision overturned long-standing precedent, even though John Roberts repeatedly supported "Stare Decisis" during his confirmation hearings.
I have never figured out how or why abortion made it to the Supremes since I am confused as what their jurisdiction is. Some one want to enlighten me?
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17306 Jan 14, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
To suggest that they didn't realize that the appointment process itself would be enmeshed with and influenced by politics seems to me to not acknowledge their foresight, in general. Its foolish to think they didn't know that, specifically.
What they surely knew was that once someone was vetted and approved, they could not be removed other than through death, a legal finding of incompetency, or voluntary retirement.
woof
Of course, be aware of a very different perspective & attitude of government by the founders.
They were the ones in the trenches of the fight for independence which of course But 1; they had to have some formula. 2. Our nation was young enough, new enough, a little naive, quite inexperienced & idealistic enough to NOT realize what effect career politicians would have.
Remember, they expected 'Citizen Representation', NOT 40 yr reps.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17307 Jan 14, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
You are forgetting about Senate confirmation.
TRUE. Which is supposed to create a good governmental balance which it seems has failed to do so since at least FDR if not B4 him.
It's a shame that the system doesn't work as intended.
Another reason for term limits.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17308 Jan 14, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> Of course, be aware of a very different perspective & attitude of government by the founders.
They were the ones in the trenches of the fight for independence which of course But 1; they had to have some formula. 2. Our nation was young enough, new enough, a little naive, quite inexperienced & idealistic enough to NOT realize what effect career politicians would have.
Remember, they expected 'Citizen Representation', NOT 40 yr reps.
That's because it paid nothing. Serving in federal government was looked at similar to serving in the military today. You didn't get squat and only the satisfaction of serving for your fellow Americans.

Now these jokers give themselves raises as if they were good little employees. No input on our behalf. They get up there and stomp their feet about CEO's and their golden parachute, but never bother to explain their retirement benefits to us. How is it they all leave the Congress millionaires if not multi-millionaires?

I constantly hear those violin stories about how they sleep in their offices while in DC because they have nowhere else to stay. Well, instead of voting for raises, why don't they vote for an apartment complex where they could stay while working?

What a racket.
Old Guy

Brookville, OH

#17309 Jan 14, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I have never figured out how or why abortion made it to the Supremes since I am confused as what their jurisdiction is. Some one want to enlighten me?
Here's where it started:
"In June 1969, Norma L. McCorvey discovered she was pregnant with her third child. She returned to Dallas, Texas, where friends advised her to assert falsely that she had been raped in order to obtain a legal abortion (with the understanding that Texas law allowed abortion in cases of rape and incest). However, this scheme failed because there was no police report documenting the alleged rape. She attempted to obtain an illegal abortion, but found the unauthorized site had been closed down by the police. Eventually, she was referred to attorneys Linda Coffee and Sarah Weddington.[8](McCorvey would give birth before the case was decided.)

In 1970, Coffee and Weddington filed suit in a U.S. District Court in Texas on behalf of McCorvey (under the alias Jane Roe). The defendant in the case was Dallas County District Attorney Henry Wade, representing the State of Texas. McCorvey was no longer claiming her pregnancy was the result of rape, and later acknowledged that she had lied about having been raped.[9][10] "Rape" is not mentioned in the judicial opinions in this case.[11]

The district court ruled in McCorvey's favor on the legal merits of her case, and declined to grant an injunction against the enforcement of the laws barring abortion.[11] The district court's decision was based upon the 9th Amendment, and the court relied upon a concurring opinion by Justice Arthur Goldberg in the 1965 Supreme Court case of Griswold v. Connecticut,[12] finding in the decision for a right to privacy.[13]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

The District Court's decision was appealed by those that opposed legal abortion. That eventually led to the Supreme Court decision.
why support anyone

Waverly, OH

#17310 Jan 14, 2013
why should we support anyone in any form of the law and government? there is no such thing as justice for all. no one honors the constitution and there are no honest and fair law enforcment in any form.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#17311 Jan 14, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I have never figured out how or why abortion made it to the Supremes since I am confused as what their jurisdiction is. Some one want to enlighten me?
The SCOTUS only takes cases that it chooses to take. A case arrives at the SC through a petition for a writ of certiorari. That is a petition explaining to the court why the side that lost in the lower court believes the case involves a federal constitutional right. In Roe v. Wade, Roe made the argument that the law criminalizing her abortion violated her right to privacy under the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th and 14th amendments. At least four justices have to agree to hear the case.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#17312 Jan 14, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>TRUE. Which is supposed to create a good governmental balance which it seems has failed to do so since at least FDR if not B4 him.
It's a shame that the system doesn't work as intended.
Another reason for term limits.
Robert Bork's nomination was stopped by the Senate. At least a couple of W.'s picks were aborted short of making it to the court.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17313 Jan 14, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
The SCOTUS only takes cases that it chooses to take. A case arrives at the SC through a petition for a writ of certiorari. That is a petition explaining to the court why the side that lost in the lower court believes the case involves a federal constitutional right. In Roe v. Wade, Roe made the argument that the law criminalizing her abortion violated her right to privacy under the 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th and 14th amendments. At least four justices have to agree to hear the case.
I need to do some surfing to ck this out but it's my bed time now. thanx for the info
LorenEberly

Fredericktown, OH

#17314 Jan 14, 2013
Jobs Ohio Program:

American Electric Power donating $2 million derived from American Electric Power marketing this $2 million in the price of American Electric Power.

And hold consumers of American Electric Power accountable to fund $2 million donation. With money derived from wages (union contract) investment and independent business profit.

This defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding American Electric Power and every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for electricity and every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff and balance every budget. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17316 Jan 15, 2013
Karl Monday wrote:
<quoted text>
The judiciary at the federal level should not be subject to electoral politics. It's bad enough at the state level where people are elected because they have Irish names.
I would limit federal judges to no more than 15 years at one level, and possibly allow them to be nominated by state governors instead of the President, with the exception of the Supreme Court.
sure but they are supposed to decide if existing laws are constitutional, not pass them from the bench. Its an abuse of power.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17317 Jan 15, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I need to do some surfing to ck this out but it's my bed time now. thanx for the info
look at it this way, if you're have a group of large corporate special interests, who can't force a new bill into law using our elected republic ( insurance and pharmy corporations), then you're petition probably isn't even reviewed. They probably immediately place it on the docket. http://shtf411.com/supreme-court-inc-bought-o...
LorenEberly

Fredericktown, OH

#17319 Jan 15, 2013
Akron Children’s Hospital:

Akron Children’s Hospital seeking volunteers without wages to help with fund raising campaign; is defiant of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes, Fund Akron Children’s Hospital, and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMOPOSSIBLE for President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#17320 Jan 15, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> ha! Haliburton equals blackwater. Right? Opps! http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/...
Have fun responding with your foot in your mouth, lemming. thread didn't exist during bushes final term. This sight barely did. Do I know you?
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Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#17321 Jan 15, 2013
Let's get busy people.

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titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17323 Jan 16, 2013
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
<quoted text>
Former Blackwater Ditches Xe for Yet Another Name - WSJ.com online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204319...
Dec 12, 2011 ... Now, it's the company formerly known as Xe. On Monday, Virginia-based Xe plans to unveil a new name—Academi—and new logo. In an ...
US security firm Blackwater changes its name to Xe | World ... www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/13/blackwat... - Similarto US security firm Blackwater changes its name to Xe | World ...
Feb 13, 2009 ... US security firm mired in Iraq controversy changes its name. Blackwater Worldwide renamed Xe as company tries to salvage its tarnished ...
Ex-Blackwater firm gets a name change, again - Checkpoint ... www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washi... -...
Dec 12, 2011 ... Now, the firm is rebranding itself again. On Monday, Xe announced that it was changing its name to Academi, part of a years-long effort by the ...
Blackwater / Xe now called Academi | The Firearm Blog www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/02/16/blackw...
Feb 16, 2012 ... Xe was a terrible name. In my mind ... 23 thoughts on “Blackwater / Xe now called Academi”... The name “Uwe Boll” sounds like a Bond villain.
yes. Font groups or "shell" corporations.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17324 Jan 16, 2013
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
Let's get busy people.
Gerrymanders, Part 2: How many voters were disenfranchised? election.princeton.edu/2013/01/02/gerrymander... -...
Jan 2, 2013 ... In the US system, the House of Representatives is elected on the basis of districts .... In the seven Republican-controlled states, the total votes cast were 16.22 million ... This work is fascinating but it is rather a band aid on a festering wound..... How profound is the danger to future Presidential Elections?
The GOP's New Voter Suppression Strategy: Gerrymander the ... www.thenation.com/blog/171690/gops-new-voter-... ...
Dec 10, 2012 ... Republicans are supported a change to the Electoral College that ... the Electoral College to boost the 2016 GOP presidential candidate is ... the Corbett/Husted ( named after the Pennsylvania governor and Ohio .... Help · About & Contact · Digital, Mobile and E-Reader · Community Guidelines · Work for Us ...
Florida Election Results 2012: Obama Wins, But Gerrymandering ... www.policymic.com/articles/18930/florida-elec... ...
Like in the 2010, Florida is making presidential election headlines again.... Governor Rick Scott's brazen attempts at voter suppression were Tunisia-like in their ... Republican gerrymandering of electoral districts isn't as sexy to kick up a fuss ... Incumbents who couldn't assume easy reelection had to work even harder to ...
Reince Priebus: "In 2016 we'll focus less on stopping voter ... inagist.com/all/291060629144494081/
22 hours ago ... RNC Chair: Rig The Next Presidential Election For Republicans |... the distribution of electoral votes to rely on results of gerrymandered ...
RNC backs radical electoral-vote schemes - The Maddow Blog maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/01/15/1652725... -...
10 hours ago ... RNC Chairman Reince Priebus ... raised the prospect of changing the way their states' electoral votes are allocated in presidential elections.
RNC's Priebus Proposes to Rig Electoral College so Losing ... www.thenation.com/blog/172191/rncs-priebus-pr... ...
1 day ago ... Reince Priebus speaks at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans.... Under the Priebus plan, electoral votes from battleground states such as Florida,... Because of gerrymandering by Republican governors and ... people regarding the election of the president of the United States the very ...
RNC's Priebus Endorses Plan To Rig Electoral College www.nationalmemo.com/rncs-priebus-endorses-pl...
1 day ago ... Tags: electoral college, electoral vote, popular vote, Reince Priebus, voter ... The presidential election system that we have today was not designed,.... It's called gerrymandering is how they managed to hang on to the House.
RNC Chair: Rig The Next Presidential Election For Republicans ... www.democraticunderground.com/1014368729
1 day ago... presidential election for Mitt Romney by allocating electoral votes based ... in large part to Republican gerrymandering, if Corbett's election-rigging plan ... Reince Priebus did not simply endorse this election-rigging scheme,...
RNC Chair: Rig The Next Presidential Election For Republicans thepoliticalfreakshow.us/post/ 40553613829/rnc-chair-rig-the- next-presidenti...
1 day ago ... English: Reince Priebus at the Republican Leadership Conference in ... presidential election for Mitt Romney by allocating electoral votes ... Thanks in large part to Republican gerrymandering, if Corbett's election-rigging plan ...
I just heard an interesting interview with an obama campaigner who said she helped american citizens with id cards from other countries , get ohio state drivers licenses. I'm leaving out a link because I'm sure it will be in the corporate news soon. You're going to love this lady.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

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#17325 Jan 16, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> I just heard an interesting interview with an obama campaigner who said she helped american citizens with id cards from other countries , get ohio state drivers licenses. I'm leaving out a link because I'm sure it will be in the corporate news soon. You're going to love this lady.
As an American citizen with overseas ID, I'm not really quite sure why this would be outrageous. I used my overseas ID as secondary ID, the last time I had to get another driver's license in the US.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#17326 Jan 16, 2013
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>
As an American citizen with overseas ID, I'm not really quite sure why this would be outrageous. I used my overseas ID as secondary ID, the last time I had to get another driver's license in the US.
Thank you. ;-)

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#17327 Jan 16, 2013
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>
As an American citizen with overseas ID, I'm not really quite sure why this would be outrageous. I used my overseas ID as secondary ID, the last time I had to get another driver's license in the US.
Are you not ignoring the Elephant in the room? Republicans have slipped so far down the popularity ladder that they KNOW they cannot win without cheating, ie. Rigging the election process.
After all Obama got 5 Million more votes and Dems got more votes in the House, Senate and more votes overall.

That is how deep the GOP Brand has sank down the proverbial shithole. Those are just the facts.

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