seepelppa

Tampa, FL

#31983 Jul 24, 2014
Applepees
sraep

Detroit, MI

#31984 Jul 24, 2014
seepelppa wrote:
Applepees
Pears
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#31985 Jul 24, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> As you unwittingly stated...these are 'amendments! which means AFTER the fact! Thanks for making that point.The point that the ACA was passed on political lines.
Wow, just never mind. That was over your head.
Big Joe

Portsmouth, OH

#31986 Jul 24, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, just never mind. That was over your head.
Woo boy said he blew a goat. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31987 Jul 24, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you think you should be better informed before you offer opinions?
That goes for many people. But don't you consider the deferments, extensions, waivers & executive orders amendments to the ACA? Think of the definition of "amend" to change, to alter etc.
OG's link; government101 defined amendments made AFTER a bill has passed.
Too many people on here are just like sharks, waiting to chomp on any perceived error & weakness as they perceive them being made.
We should not be so oppositional & aggressive & more would get accomplished.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31988 Jul 24, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>That goes for many people. But don't you consider the deferments, extensions, waivers & executive orders amendments to the ACA? Think of the definition of "amend" to change, to alter etc.
OG's link; government101 defined amendments made AFTER a bill has passed.
Too many people on here are just like sharks, waiting to chomp on any perceived error & weakness as they perceive them being made.
We should not be so oppositional & aggressive & more would get accomplished.
Ignore them.

They will never admit that this scheme of Commie Care is a failure and nothing but more problems for more Americans. So the theme behind defending this jerk is to try and blame Republicans (or Bush) whenever possible whether they were at fault or not.

To put it another way, if they thought this plot was a brilliant idea for America, they would be doing everything in their power to try and distance Republicans from it. They would be ones to constantly bring up how Republicans were against this idea that became a huge success.

But instead, they are doing whatever they can to associate this failure with Republicans be it Congress or Romney. This is how we know we've won the debate, and this is how we know what they really think of Commie Care. They know it'a s failure just as people on our side of the fence know it's a failure.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#31989 Jul 24, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>That goes for many people. But don't you consider the deferments, extensions, waivers & executive orders amendments to the ACA? Think of the definition of "amend" to change, to alter etc.
OG's link; government101 defined amendments made AFTER a bill has passed.
Too many people on here are just like sharks, waiting to chomp on any perceived error & weakness as they perceive them being made.
We should not be so oppositional & aggressive & more would get accomplished.
More would get accomplished if we just let you be wrong? OG provided you a link and you still don't understand it. You are the poster child for what is wrong with our political discourse. You think your uninformed, uneducated, completely confused and wrong opinion is as valid as people who are informed and educated.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#31990 Jul 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Ignore them.
They will never admit that this scheme of Commie Care is a failure and nothing but more problems for more Americans. So the theme behind defending this jerk is to try and blame Republicans (or Bush) whenever possible whether they were at fault or not.
To put it another way, if they thought this plot was a brilliant idea for America, they would be doing everything in their power to try and distance Republicans from it. They would be ones to constantly bring up how Republicans were against this idea that became a huge success.
But instead, they are doing whatever they can to associate this failure with Republicans be it Congress or Romney. This is how we know we've won the debate, and this is how we know what they really think of Commie Care. They know it'a s failure just as people on our side of the fence know it's a failure.
Classic advice from the delivery boy: Ignore the smart people.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31991 Jul 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Ignore them.
They will never admit that this scheme of Commie Care is a failure and nothing but more problems for more Americans. So the theme behind defending this jerk is to try and blame Republicans (or Bush) whenever possible whether they were at fault or not.
To put it another way, if they thought this plot was a brilliant idea for America, they would be doing everything in their power to try and distance Republicans from it. They would be ones to constantly bring up how Republicans were against this idea that became a huge success.
But instead, they are doing whatever they can to associate this failure with Republicans be it Congress or Romney. This is how we know we've won the debate, and this is how we know what they really think of Commie Care. They know it'a s failure just as people on our side of the fence know it's a failure.
The real problem is the Sound Bite Voters! The ones that don't do any research so they buy into the propaganda. ALL of us saw & heard the "on street interviewer" before both previous elections. You can still easily find them on YouTube. The ones where people were duped when they were asked if they minded that Obama's running mate was a woman, or the one's that thought that they would no longer have a house payment if Obama was president & on & on.
The ppl that are narrow or closed minded & refuse to see overall facts.
The media is no help either. The competition for commercial dollars is so thick that you need a power saw to cut it. They don't care about the responsibility of the '4th estate' just dollars. Example: unemployment goes down .1% or .2% & they espouse that it "plumets"(sp) or that it "plunges"! Point 2 percent is a plunge? Why not just the facts with out all of the hyperbole?
Those two groups of ppl are the real problem.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31992 Jul 24, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the poster child for what is wrong with our political discourse. You think your uninformed, uneducated, completely confused and wrong opinion is as valid as people who are informed and educated.
It's as valid if not more valid than someone with a closed minded agenda.
I am also content that I am not as insulting or aggressive as you, canton or woo. Why not work together?
The answer is to divide & conquer. A very old & time proven axiom. Hitler used it, Muslim Extremist are using it, Stalin used it, the IJA used it, North Korea is using it etc etc & now Obama is using it. But YOU & others just don't see that. Propaganda can be quite effective. That proves that it is a viable tactic...in the short run. Problem is that IF it used for a generation or two, the people then alive do NOT know how to be free. A few exceptions would be like Poland & the Baltic states.
East Germany (the GDR) would not have known what to do IF West Germany wasn't there to teach them & to absorb the scholastic & economic cost to do so.
They cannot kill a Spook

Detroit, MI

#31993 Jul 24, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>The real problem is the Sound Bite Voters! The ones that don't do any research so they buy into the propaganda. ALL of us saw & heard the "on street interviewer" before both previous elections. You can still easily find them on YouTube. The ones where people were duped when they were asked if they minded that Obama's running mate was a woman, or the one's that thought that they would no longer have a house payment if Obama was president & on & on.
The ppl that are narrow or closed minded & refuse to see overall facts.
The media is no help either. The competition for commercial dollars is so thick that you need a power saw to cut it. They don't care about the responsibility of the '4th estate' just dollars. Example: unemployment goes down .1% or .2% & they espouse that it "plumets"(sp) or that it "plunges"! Point 2 percent is a plunge? Why not just the facts with out all of the hyperbole?
Those two groups of ppl are the real problem.
Should be testing before voting. Those that can't understand a trial or assist in there own defense are deemes incompetent to stand trial yet are allowed.to vote....and in some areas two or three times even if dead.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#31994 Jul 24, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>The real problem is the Sound Bite Voters! The ones that don't do any research so they buy into the propaganda. ALL of us saw & heard the "on street interviewer" before both previous elections. You can still easily find them on YouTube. The ones where people were duped when they were asked if they minded that Obama's running mate was a woman, or the one's that thought that they would no longer have a house payment if Obama was president & on & on.
The ppl that are narrow or closed minded & refuse to see overall facts.
The media is no help either. The competition for commercial dollars is so thick that you need a power saw to cut it. They don't care about the responsibility of the '4th estate' just dollars. Example: unemployment goes down .1% or .2% & they espouse that it "plumets"(sp) or that it "plunges"! Point 2 percent is a plunge? Why not just the facts with out all of the hyperbole?
Those two groups of ppl are the real problem.
Awesome. You who have been horribly wrong twice in the last 10 days and completely refuse others' efforts to educate you are complaining about other people's lack of knowledge.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#31995 Jul 24, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>It's as valid if not more valid than someone with a closed minded agenda.
I am also content that I am not as insulting or aggressive as you, canton or woo. Why not work together?
The answer is to divide & conquer. A very old & time proven axiom. Hitler used it, Muslim Extremist are using it, Stalin used it, the IJA used it, North Korea is using it etc etc & now Obama is using it. But YOU & others just don't see that. Propaganda can be quite effective. That proves that it is a viable tactic...in the short run. Problem is that IF it used for a generation or two, the people then alive do NOT know how to be free. A few exceptions would be like Poland & the Baltic states.
East Germany (the GDR) would not have known what to do IF West Germany wasn't there to teach them & to absorb the scholastic & economic cost to do so.
I guess you can call it anything that you want. But the alternative is allowing you to remain ignorant and believing what obviously is wrong to be right. That's ridiculous.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#31996 Jul 24, 2014
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
<quoted text>
Should be testing before voting. Those that can't understand a trial or assist in there own defense are deemes incompetent to stand trial yet are allowed.to vote....and in some areas two or three times even if dead.
I'm beginning to think that is a good idea. You, Pops, Ray, and Walter would be disenfranchised right off the jump.
ino

Waverly, OH

#31997 Jul 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Ignore them.
They will never admit that this scheme of Commie Care is a failure and nothing but more problems for more Americans. So the theme behind defending this jerk is to try and blame Republicans (or Bush) whenever possible whether they were at fault or not.
To put it another way, if they thought this plot was a brilliant idea for America, they would be doing everything in their power to try and distance Republicans from it. They would be ones to constantly bring up how Republicans were against this idea that became a huge success.
But instead, they are doing whatever they can to associate this failure with Republicans be it Congress or Romney. This is how we know we've won the debate, and this is how we know what they really think of Commie Care. They know it'a s failure just as people on our side of the fence know it's a failure.
LIKE.....

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31998 Jul 24, 2014
DEMSRULE wrote:
As Romney pointed out, Romneycare is OK for states - it's only when you take it nationwide that it's all socialistic and stuff. And xxx, it's so entertaining when you pretend that the government somehow was responsible for brokers who bundled mortgages they knew were worthless and sold them as blue chip investments. It's unlikely that anyone here realizes that retardican deregulation made it possible for bankers and brokers to gamble so recklessly with our money. If they hadn't, the damage would have been limited to lenders and their clients. Deregulation allowed them to throw all the rules out the window and peddle their make-believe profits to everybody, collapsing the global economy. Ah - retardicans. In a sense, we're lucky they don't do anything. When they do something, the economy collapses, or we get into middle eastern wars that last 10 or 12 years, or the government shuts down. Then there's a presidential election, and they get their asses kicked, and they vow to do better.........
Liberal Democrat Bill Clinton accepts responsiblity too.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#31999 Jul 24, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> I didn't realize that the amendments were during the process, IF you are right about that.
Yeah, Pops, he's definitely right about that. Bills are amended before they are voted on, and the are also (sometimes) amended after they become law.(The Social Security Act has been amended many times.) That's how the political process is supposed to work, and worked for many years.
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> The whole thing still passed only on party lines for some reason, what do you think about that?
We live in very partisan times. Republicans had a lot of influence in the language of the ACA.

The final Bill included 161 Republican amendments, to satisfy Republican concerns. Most Democrats would have preferred the public option, instead of the exchanges of private companies. Obama rejected that approach in an attempt to reach common ground with the Republicans. That was a mistake. The negotiations were all a sham, because Republican leaders insisted that they would not support the final Bill regardless of the concessions made.(That's known as bargaining in bad faith.)

"Almost no one is noting the extraordinary influence Republicans had on the healthcare reform bill crafted by the Senate, as it made its way through the committee process last year. The bill approved by Sen. Christopher Dodd’s Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee, for instance, included 161 amendments authored by Republicans. Only 49 Republican amendments were rejected out of 210 considered."

"You’ll all remember the Senate Finance Committee process, chaired by Montana Sen. Max Baucus. Baucus and President Obama empowered a bipartisan “Gang of Six” from the committee, three Democrats and three Republicans, and they spent the summer locked in negotiations that, again, never produced one Republican vote for the bill in committee. The Finance Committee ultimately scuttled the public option in its version of the bill, looking for GOP (and conservative Democratic) support."

http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/hcr_amendment...
d pantz

Toledo, OH

#32000 Jul 25, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
More would get accomplished if we just let you be wrong? OG provided you a link and you still don't understand it. You are the poster child for what is wrong with our political discourse. You think your uninformed, uneducated, completely confused and wrong opinion is as valid as people who are informed and educated.
The problem is people like you who try to find the slightest error in what someone is trying to reiterate and then focus on that instead of delving into the truth. You TRY to belittle people and then spout your own half truths. Then when someone calls you on your incompleteness, you go into personal attack mode.
d pantz

Toledo, OH

#32001 Jul 25, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
The Diabetic Uninsured Delivery Boy King of the Anecdote strikes again.
Those superior morals really shine through your character. Keep it up and you're ( that "we" you keep talking about) going to change the world... one person at a time.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32002 Jul 25, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> Those superior morals really shine through your character. Keep it up and you're ( that "we" you keep talking about) going to change the world... one person at a time.
Let him keep talking like that. Karma is bound to take it's turn on him and with luck, he will come down with some serious disease. Then we'll see who's laughing and mocking. Hopefully a fatal illness too!

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