Chabot cancels fundraiser on eve of likely shutdown

Oct 1, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Cincinnati.com

One casualty of the looming government shutdown has already been claimed: a fundraiser for Rep. Steve Chabot 's re-election committee.

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Charlene Anter

West Chester, OH

#1 Oct 1, 2013
What is wrong with republicans? They evidently don't care about the American people. They are only interested in making money for themselves. They are causing our government to crash. I will never ever vote for a republican and believe me I am crusading against all their wants. I want to be sure we keep affordable health care for all Americans. Steve Chabot - it's time for you to wake up.
Kyboy

Newport, KY

#3 Oct 2, 2013
Charlene Anter wrote:
What is wrong with republicans? They evidently don't care about the American people. They are only interested in making money for themselves. They are causing our government to crash. I will never ever vote for a republican and believe me I am crusading against all their wants. I want to be sure we keep affordable health care for all Americans. Steve Chabot - it's time for you to wake up.
Bet you never have voted for a republican. Bet your also just wanting someone else to pay for your health care.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#4 Oct 3, 2013
Kyboy wrote:
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Bet you never have voted for a republican. Bet your also just wanting someone else to pay for your health care.
Do you understand how insurance works? The central concept is that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. While everyone is subject to having medical emergencies, some people are more fortunate than others. We do not buy insurance hoping to use its monetary benefits. We buy it to enjoy a sense of security, not having o worry about having a catastrophic event that we canít afford. The whole idea is that we recognize the wisdom of pooling resources to enjoy financial and medical security and stability. It makes sense to ďpay for other peopleís health careĒ in order to enjoy the benefit of other people paying for our own health insurance.

The alternative, of course, is anarchy, each man for himself, survival of the fittest, claw yourself to the top only to be toppled by the next guy.
Kyboy

Newport, KY

#5 Oct 3, 2013
kuda wrote:
<quoted text>Do you understand how insurance works? The central concept is that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. While everyone is subject to having medical emergencies, some people are more fortunate than others. We do not buy insurance hoping to use its monetary benefits. We buy it to enjoy a sense of security, not having o worry about having a catastrophic event that we can¬ít afford. The whole idea is that we recognize the wisdom of pooling resources to enjoy financial and medical security and stability. It makes sense to ¬ďpay for other people¬ís health care¬Ē in order to enjoy the benefit of other people paying for our own health insurance.

The alternative, of course, is anarchy, each man for himself, survival of the fittest, claw yourself to the top only to be toppled by the next guy.
I understand how it works very well. In KY roughly 350,000 will be added to medicaid who will pay nothing. Roughly another 350,000 will get government subsidies. So who paying and sharing the cost?
Frank

Mount Gilead, OH

#6 Oct 4, 2013
Kyboy wrote:
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I understand how it works very well. In KY roughly 350,000 will be added to medicaid who will pay nothing. Roughly another 350,000 will get government subsidies. So who paying and sharing the cost?
Your paying for them now, and for the last 20years, you ass, FOX news just hasn't told YOU yet! Small details are slow to come out on your side of the river! Huh?
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#7 Oct 4, 2013
Kyboy wrote:
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I understand how it works very well. In KY roughly 350,000 will be added to medicaid who will pay nothing. Roughly another 350,000 will get government subsidies. So who paying and sharing the cost?
I am, along with many others, possibly including yourself.
Kyboy

Columbus, OH

#8 Oct 4, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Your paying for them now, and for the last 20years, you ass, FOX news just hasn't told YOU yet! Small details are slow to come out on your side of the river! Huh?
Been paying health care for others for over 30 years now. MSNBC apparently hasn't told you that some of us are tired of being robbed and used by this current administration.
Kyboy

Columbus, OH

#9 Oct 4, 2013
kuda wrote:
<quoted text>I am, along with many others, possibly including yourself.
Yes it includes me. My premiums went up $900 last year. Just got my new rates for 2014 an increase of another $1980.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#10 Oct 5, 2013
Kyboy wrote:
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Yes it includes me. My premiums went up $900 last year. Just got my new rates for 2014 an increase of another $1980.
Like you, Iím a financial contributor to our healthcare infrastructure. While none of us enjoys the seemingly eternal tend of having to more for practically everything, some find solace not only indirectly through their altruism, but also through recognition of direct personal benefits. Itís natural and appropriate that we question whether our personal benefits are sufficient to justify our costs. As with our system of roads and highways, water and sewer, national defense and much more, we all benefit from the security that accrues from not having to worry more than we do on daily basis about social upheaval due to economic desperation or not having to assuage our conscience when we have fellows would die for inability to pay for medical treatment were it not for our social infrastructure.
Frank

Mount Gilead, OH

#11 Oct 5, 2013
kuda wrote:
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Like you, Iím a financial contributor to our healthcare infrastructure. While none of us enjoys the seemingly eternal tend of having to more for practically everything, some find solace not only indirectly through their altruism, but also through recognition of direct personal benefits. Itís natural and appropriate that we question whether our personal benefits are sufficient to justify our costs. As with our system of roads and highways, water and sewer, national defense and much more, we all benefit from the security that accrues from not having to worry more than we do on daily basis about social upheaval due to economic desperation or not having to assuage our conscience when we have fellows would die for inability to pay for medical treatment were it not for our social infrastructure.
. Huh? Huh ? Huh ? Huh? Huh? SUP?
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#12 Oct 5, 2013
Sorry, Frank. I typed this on the fly, so it requires some corrections:

ďWhile none of us enjoys the seemingly eternal tend of having to PAY moreÖí

ďnot having to assuage our conscience when we have fellows WHO would dieÖĒ
Kyboy

Newport, KY

#13 Oct 7, 2013
kuda wrote:
<quoted text>Like you, I’m a financial contributor to our healthcare infrastructure. While none of us enjoys the seemingly eternal tend of having to more for practically everything, some find solace not only indirectly through their altruism, but also through recognition of direct personal benefits. It’s natural and appropriate that we question whether our personal benefits are sufficient to justify our costs. As with our system of roads and highways, water and sewer, national defense and much more, we all benefit from the security that accrues from not having to worry more than we do on daily basis about social upheaval due to economic desperation or not having to assuage our conscience when we have fellows would die for inability to pay for medical treatment were it not for our social infrastructure.
Very well said.

Are social programs have hurt more people then they ever will help. The number of people in poverty has basically stay the same since 1965.

These programs have kept people in poverty for years. American family values have been destroyed by them.

Fraud and abuse ran rapid though all these programs. Politicians just use them to buy votes with.

More people in are country die from drugs and drug related activities then they do of lack of medical care.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#14 Oct 7, 2013
Kyboy wrote:
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Very well said.
Are social programs have hurt more people then they ever will help. The number of people in poverty has basically stay the same since 1965.
These programs have kept people in poverty for years. American family values have been destroyed by them.
Fraud and abuse ran rapid though all these programs. Politicians just use them to buy votes with.
More people in are country die from drugs and drug related activities then they do of lack of medical care.
Given your beliefs that our social programs have hurt more people then they ever will help, the number of people in poverty has basically stay the same since 1965, these programs have kept people in poverty for years, American family values have been destroyed by them, fraud and abuse ran rapid though all these programs, politicians just use them to buy votes with, and more people in are country die from drugs and drug related activities then they do of lack of medical care, would you recommend completely abolishing government? If not, what would you have the government do if it were solely your responsibility to determine its function?

In essence, Iím asking you to define/design utopia.

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