Ohio Supreme Court Rules Smoking Ban Constitutional

May 23, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Cincinnati CityBeat

Since 2006, the Ohio Smoke-Free Workplace Act has banned indoor smoking at public establishments and places of employment, making Ohio the first Midwestern state to enact a state-wide ban.

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Kyboy

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Frisbee wrote:
<quoted text>Please provide a link to the guarantee from government that government won't intrude. I'll take your inability to do so as an admission that you're a fucking idiot.Kyboy wrote, " The freedom to keep what I worked for.
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Please explain to us how a smoking ban has robbed you of the ability to keep what you've worked for. I'll take your inability to answer as an admission that you're a fucking idiot.Kyboy wrote, "The freedom to use my personal property as I choose.
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Given the fact that you can SMOKE ALL YOU PLEASE ON YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY and that smoking bans only apply to the PUBLIC PROPERTY OF BUSINESSES WHO HAVE BEEN GRANTED A LICENSE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC BY THE GOVERNMENT... Please enlighten us as to how a smoking ban limits you right to use your personal property as you choose.
I'll take your inability to answer as an admission that you're a fucking idiot.

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By the way we all have seen you avoiding the other bans that I pointed out. You can't defend them are justify
them being in place.
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It is a testimony to your ignorance to assume I support a ban from the Nowheresville city council on cupcakes? I don't. You'll notice that such bans get squashed because citizens who aren't pussies stand up and fight them instead of crying on the internet like little bitches. Bans that actually have the support of the people become a nationwide movement. Sorry that you're on the losing side of that one. Feel free to alarm us when there's a state/nationwide ban on cupcakes or soda......dipshit.

This is where you assert your 'slippery-slope" logical fallacy trope as if it appeals to any but the weakest of minds:
Looks like the the slippery slope just took another slippery step.

http://mynorthwest.com/...
Pops

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By the way Forest was successful by working and archiving the American dream.
Also you should think a little more before slamming other people about their handicaps in life. Your just showing us reality of how other people do not matter to you (libs).
I may have misworded something because I am not clear as to what 'slamming' you are talking about.
The only 'slamming' that I have intended is towards Frizz & his/her lack of comprehension & replying to things NOT said.
And believe me, I am NOT a lib. I believe in earning what I, you or anyone deserves. I believe in oppurtunity for ALL that strive to do better & have NO sympathy for the willfully underachieving/undeserving. At the same time I do believe in helping your neighbor while NOT supporting your neighbor.
I have had foodstamps twice in my life. Once for 1 month & once fo 2 months for temporary medical reasons both times. I was glad that the ASSISTANCE was the there, but realize that there is a difference between ASSISTANCE & SUPPORT!!
I support myself & my family based on my own situation(s), good or bad.
I appreciate your pointing out where I may have misworded my message so that I can correct it if need be.
Pops

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Kyboy wrote:
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By the way Forest was successful by working and archiving the American dream.
Also you should think a little more before slamming other people about their handicaps in life. Your just showing us reality of how other people do not matter to you (libs).
OOOOPS! I just reread & rethought your post/reply & believe that I understand it better. You are welcome to expound but it's fine if you don't. Thanx
Kyboy

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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I may have misworded something because I am not clear as to what 'slamming' you are talking about.
The only 'slamming' that I have intended is towards Frizz & his/her lack of comprehension & replying to things NOT said.
And believe me, I am NOT a lib. I believe in earning what I, you or anyone deserves. I believe in oppurtunity for ALL that strive to do better & have NO sympathy for the willfully underachieving/undeserving. At the same time I do believe in helping your neighbor while NOT supporting your neighbor.
I have had foodstamps twice in my life. Once for 1 month & once fo 2 months for temporary medical reasons both times. I was glad that the ASSISTANCE was the there, but realize that there is a difference between ASSISTANCE & SUPPORT!!
I support myself & my family based on my own situation(s), good or bad.
I appreciate your pointing out where I may have misworded my message so that I can correct it if need be.
My post was directed at Frisbee and his comments about you being Forest and him making fun of people like Forest.
Pops

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I caught that just as I clinked 'enter' Silly me. But my post was sincere. lol
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A little future ammo for you Pops

STUNNING NEWS FOR PROS AND ANTIS

Elio Gagliano
23rd September 2012

DRINKING and SMOKING may save you from a blood cancer: the myeloma.

After years of brain-washing propaganda - encouraged and commended by nanny States all over the civilized world - teetotalers and anti-smokers, as well as drinkers and smokers, will certainly be flabbergasted upon learning that the combination of smoking and drinking appears to reduce the risk of multiple myeloma, with most of the effect coming from alcohol consumption.

The study involved 4,146 myeloma cases and a composite control group of 18,432 participants. It was conducted by Gabriella Andreotti, PhD, of the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Md., and was reported on by "MedPage Today".

Andreotti and colleagues examined the joint effects of alcohol and smoking on myeloma risk.
Participants who smoked and drank had 30% lower odds for myeloma than participants who did neither.
Former smokers had a myeloma risk similar to that of never smokers. That is: don't quit smoking if you are afraid of getting a myeloma ;-). They don't say it, but I suppose that the same thing happens if a drinker stops drinking.

Personally I don't know what to think about this news, except for the fact that, lately, the medical literature is 'daring' to publish studies that absolve the tobacco smoke from being the cause of this or that disease. In spite of the Antis.
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Need A Light wrote:
The study involved 4,146 myeloma cases and a composite control group of 18,432 participants. It was conducted by Gabriella Andreotti, PhD, of the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Md., and was reported on by "MedPage Today".
Yeah, this was originally reported about a year ago, but apparently FORCES didn't discover it until today. Here's a link to the original article on MedPage Today: http://www.medpagetoday.com/clinical-context/...

The only statistically significant association was with drinking, which has also been found in previous studies. But there is no dose-response relationship, so what you really have is a comparison between never drinkers and everyone else. Why would someone not drink? Some have religious reasons, others may have always suffered poor health and didn't drink for that reason. Why would never drinkers have higher levels of multiple myeloma than everyone else? We don't know.

Though FORCES seems to think this is an extraordinary event, it's not. This is how science works. Sometimes results are confusing, and not easily interpreted.

For years, a similar association was seen between never drinkers and heat disease. It turns out that moderate drinking (1-2 glasses a day)is actually protective for heart disease. This was a major shift in scientific opinion, and it was all driven by the data.
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"Personally I don't know what to think about this news, except for the fact that, lately, the medical literature is 'daring' to publish studies that absolve the tobacco smoke from being the cause of this or that disease. In spite of the Antis. "
Old guy ....where the report came from is what is important in my opinon and a year later. Obviously you would not expect Anti's to report it they might have brought some unwarranted exposure to themselves.
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xxxrayted wrote:
NYC bans sale of sugary drinks
(CNN)- Say good-bye to sugary soda in New York City.
You can buy all the sugary drinks you please, Drama Queen. They have NOT been banned. Try dealing in FACT once in a while, instead of lies.
Kyboy wrote:
Your just showing us reality of how other people do not matter to you (libs).
Not 'other' people....Stupid people. You know, like those who can't tell the difference between "you're" and "your".
Kyboy wrote:
Looks like the the slippery slope just took another slippery step.
Logical Fallacy: How your masters keep simpletons frothing at the mouth.
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Old Guy wrote:
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For years, a similar association was seen between never drinkers and heat disease.
Make that "heart disease." I really wish there was an edit function in Topix...
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Kyboy wrote:
Looks like the the slippery slope just took another slippery step.
http://mynorthwest.com/...
You do realize that you are proving my point that 'slippery slope' only appeals to the weakest of minds, right?

Come to think of it, you probably don't.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/...
Surprise! Jobless Claims Up 78,000 Week After Election; PA, OH Worst Hit
GM now building more plants in China with taxpayer money. The Cadillac is now being built in China. Instead of Government motors, they are now China motors. The antis support the communist companies.
Obama has started pushing the carbon taxes. He is shutting down coal plants which will make electricity higher. Many plants are now laying off people across the country. Police departments and court houses are shutting down. Obama is bow working at outlawing guns in this country.
Lack of property rights are staring to take its toll. The antis can say they helped do all the above.
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Hey look. The resident whack-job is back!

Time to dial the crazy up to 11!
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Hey look. The resident whack-job is back!
Time to dial the crazy up to 11!
Let me add that the stock market has been falling since Obama was elected. Damn if ohio isn't right up at the top on losing jobs. Homes being repossessed by the thousands. Some are even payed for. Government now has control over your bank account. Soon you will have to have an RFID chip if you want Obamacare. Isn't life grand when you destroy property rights.
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Correction.

Crank the Crazy up to 12. Every day of aging, the dementia gets stronger.
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youtube.com/watch... ………FM Female Mature Metal Mouth ready to puff huff and puff?
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If you were going to eat too much, you make yourself fat, nobody forces you to eat too much, just because you are near an overeater. If you drink too much, you ruin your health, nobody forces someone else to drink alcohol, just because they are near them. Smoking on the other hand, is in the air, the only way a person can be around a smoker when they are smoking, if the people around them don't want to breath smoke, is to stop breathing.

I think most non-smokers don't have anything against a smoker, some smokers are very kind people. My mother-in-law was a wonderful lady who is dead now, she got lung cancer and died. CIGARETTE'S CAUSE CANCER! This is a known fact now, it's not like 30 years ago when they weren't all of the way sure yet. I know of three people that have died from lung cancer. Why would you want your friends and family and yourself to take a chance on getting cancer and then pay about 5 bucks a pack to get it? Your family will miss you and they will have to watch you die from a bad habit and they will wonder why they were not more important than your cigarettes. When I am around smoke (any kind) I get a sinus infection sometimes to the point where I need asthma medicine.

Should I have to get sick because someone else has a bad habit? Should I get cancer because the people in the apartment below me smoke in bed and I breath it in all night while I sleep? When I get out in my car to go somewhere, I smell like cigarettes and I don't smoke. I do the laundry and then they smoke in the laundry room and my clean clothes smell like cigarettes. Do smokers think they are the ones who have lost their "rights"? What about the non-smokers rights? Should little kids nearby you have to take asthma medicine because you feel like taking a smoke near them?

Are you willing to pay for my health care costs? If I was at work and I got lung cancer from working with asbestos the company I was working for would legally have to pay for my health care bills, why shouldn't you?
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Perplexed wrote:
If you were going to eat too much, you make yourself fat, nobody forces you to eat too much, just because you are near an overeater. If you drink too much, you ruin your health, nobody forces someone else to drink alcohol, just because they are near them. Smoking on the other hand, is in the air, the only way a person can be around a smoker when they are smoking, if the people around them don't want to breath smoke, is to stop breathing.
I think most non-smokers don't have anything against a smoker, some smokers are very kind people. My mother-in-law was a wonderful lady who is dead now, she got lung cancer and died. CIGARETTE'S CAUSE CANCER! This is a known fact now, it's not like 30 years ago when they weren't all of the way sure yet. I know of three people that have died from lung cancer. Why would you want your friends and family and yourself to take a chance on getting cancer and then pay about 5 bucks a pack to get it? Your family will miss you and they will have to watch you die from a bad habit and they will wonder why they were not more important than your cigarettes. When I am around smoke (any kind) I get a sinus infection sometimes to the point where I need asthma medicine.
Should I have to get sick because someone else has a bad habit? Should I get cancer because the people in the apartment below me smoke in bed and I breath it in all night while I sleep? When I get out in my car to go somewhere, I smell like cigarettes and I don't smoke. I do the laundry and then they smoke in the laundry room and my clean clothes smell like cigarettes. Do smokers think they are the ones who have lost their "rights"? What about the non-smokers rights? Should little kids nearby you have to take asthma medicine because you feel like taking a smoke near them?
Are you willing to pay for my health care costs? If I was at work and I got lung cancer from working with asbestos the company I was working for would legally have to pay for my health care bills, why shouldn't you?
The truth is you have to be in a smoke filled room for over 100 hours before SHS becomes harmful.
One car puts out 7.7 tons of pollution a year. That means you breath at least 33 pounds of pollution a day or around 6 tons a year. I grew up when almost all smoked and there was not the diseases around like today. In fact I only knew one person with cancer, today I have known hundreds. The diseases started getting worse when pollution started getting heavy. Do you know the government sprays chemicals that cause all kinds of disease in you air almost everyday. Many of the foods are now GMO food which will kill you. The vaccinations are full of stuff to kill you. They have even found live cancer viruses in your vaccinations. Funny smoking is down over 50%, SHS down over 75% and all the so called smoking diseases are up as much as 500%.
Not one proven death caused by SHS or smoking. All you get is numbers made up by the people who profit off the bans and high taxes. You have been duped.
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azmac wrote:
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The truth is you have to be in a smoke filled room for over 100 hours before SHS becomes harmful.
That may be your opinion, Azmac, but who gives a rat's ass what you think? Are you a MD or a PhD? Or just a sorry old smoker who makes up numbers?

Here's what the CDC says: "There is no risk-free level of contact with secondhand smoke; even brief exposure can be harmful to health." I think I'll listen to them instead of you.

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fa...
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Nobody gives a rats ass what Wally thinks he thinks.

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