Toyota pay cut
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Aaa

Winchester, KY

#1 Jan 1, 2013
Are the Toyota employes taking a pay cut?
No No

Paris, KY

#2 Jan 1, 2013
Aaa wrote:
Are the Toyota employes taking a pay cut?
No, they are not. Before shutdown they announced that about 40 jobs are moving to the EJP rate ($21 plus an hour) in a year and a half but anyone currently in those jobs can move to a full pay job between now and then. They are tool crib kind of jobs that aren't anything like the jobs on the assembly line. If you ask me, they should have done it a long time ago. Not fair that I've been working my a$$ off in bodyweld for 20 years making the same thing those people sitting on their butts all day are making.
Shut it

Georgetown, KY

#3 Jan 1, 2013
No No wrote:
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No, they are not. Before shutdown they announced that about 40 jobs are moving to the EJP rate ($21 plus an hour) in a year and a half but anyone currently in those jobs can move to a full pay job between now and then. They are tool crib kind of jobs that aren't anything like the jobs on the assembly line. If you ask me, they should have done it a long time ago. Not fair that I've been working my a$$ off in bodyweld for 20 years making the same thing those people sitting on their butts all day are making.
Please just crawl off and die somewhere, you stupid azz. The people in the cribs worked the lines for 10 yrs when there were no robots to lift the seats or glass for them for $12/hr while u were still sucking nipple. And yes, if 40 people go from $28/hr to $21/hr, then they took a hell of a pay cut.
No No

Paris, KY

#4 Jan 1, 2013
Shut it wrote:
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Please just crawl off and die somewhere, you stupid azz. The people in the cribs worked the lines for 10 yrs when there were no robots to lift the seats or glass for them for $12/hr while u were still sucking nipple. And yes, if 40 people go from $28/hr to $21/hr, then they took a hell of a pay cut.
Wow, you are so classy and have such a way with words. Most of the people have been in those jobs since day one. At least the ones on day shift. My point on it not being a pay cut is that Toyota is not making them stay in those jobs. They can move anywhere they want to and with the low clock numbers they have, it will be into another cushy job. So.... they don't have to take a pay cut. Only if they choose to.
Shut it

Georgetown, KY

#5 Jan 1, 2013
No No wrote:
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Wow, you are so classy and have such a way with words. Most of the people have been in those jobs since day one. At least the ones on day shift. My point on it not being a pay cut is that Toyota is not making them stay in those jobs. They can move anywhere they want to and with the low clock numbers they have, it will be into another cushy job. So.... they don't have to take a pay cut. Only if they choose to.
Just like you could take one of those cushy jobs if you really had 20 yrs in! I guess they could become lawyers if they wanted to also.... Point being....they took a hell of a pay cut in THE JOBS THEY CURRENTLY HAVE! just like every tm in the plant has taken a pay cut over the last five yrs. drink the Toyota kool-aid if you wish....but stop spitting it out on the rest of us that prefer common sense
Mike Oxlong

Winchester, KY

#6 Jan 2, 2013
I make $100 an hour being a fire breathing, cross dressing, midget stripper.
amazing

Mount Washington, KY

#7 Jan 2, 2013
It amazes me how anyone could say no pay cuts were announced ..... it makes no difference who fills those slots , its a pay cut from the current rates . BTW , its a lot more than just 40 positions . Wait until 2014 to see what happens then ....
TTY

Stanford, KY

#8 Jan 3, 2013
What happens in 2014?
Certified Mayan

Louisville, KY

#9 Jan 3, 2013
TTY wrote:
What happens in 2014?
On 14/41/14, the world is going to end.
daddy

Georgetown, KY

#10 Jan 3, 2013
Wait till I tell my daddy...
Gtown jeep

United States

#11 Jan 6, 2013
Quality is next then conveyance

Since: Dec 12

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#12 Jan 10, 2013
No No wrote:
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No, they are not. Before shutdown they announced that about 40 jobs are moving to the EJP rate ($21 plus an hour) in a year and a half but anyone currently in those jobs can move to a full pay job between now and then. They are tool crib kind of jobs that aren't anything like the jobs on the assembly line. If you ask me, they should have done it a long time ago. Not fair that I've been working my a$$ off in bodyweld for 20 years making the same thing those people sitting on their butts all day are making.
NOT FAIR! NOT FAIR??? My, My, My....sounds like a jealous person who never made anything of theirself. Come on out of that hole in the bodyshop, you would if you were not afraid....what's the matter, chicken? Don't think you can make it in the daylight? Don't think you can do a job that requires thinking? If you are so freaking brilliant and self-motivated, you would have done transfered instead of screaming POOR PITIFUL ME. Come on out. Or would you rather hide away in Body Weld and moan & cry like a sissy & be hot, sweaty, filthy, dirty, and suck welding fumes all day? It doesn't take a BRAIN to work in Body Weld. If you had a good clock number, you would have already had one of those "cushy" jobs. Let me tell you, everyone worked for what they had, a lot of those people came from the lines. I worked the lines until I fell apart, but I had good sense to move somewhere where I could work everyday and feel good about what I am doing. A cushy job is not always cushy...sometimes it takes a brain and self motivation to lead, organize, think on the run, plan, read drawings & schematics, talk to vendors, keep lines running...Oh why am I explaining this to a dumb, jealous, spiteful person in the body shop? What will you do when they don't need REAL PEOPLE in the body shop and use strictly robots and only need 20 of you folks to keep things running & feed robots, which is a menial task at most, & won't pay what you are making now. What goes around will come around to you. Fool. Just a matter of time.
Hillbilly Ninja

Winchester, KY

#13 Jan 10, 2013
I got a raise there not to long ago.

Since: Dec 12

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#14 Jan 10, 2013
Hillbilly Ninja wrote:
I got a raise there not to long ago.
I got a Raise, I got a RAISE! Go back to SLEEP....if you were brilliant, you would know we have no cost of living raise, your health & dental insurance costs more each year out of your own pocket. Then you forgot the nice bonuses every 6 months that we lost when the economy tanked...I don't call that a raise, it is a pay & benefits CUT. IF you got a raise, you must be a TEMP with no benefits and little understanding of money & the economy and little or NO chance of ever having a permanent job, which by the way, takes a TEMP 6 years now....
Hillbilly Ninja

Winchester, KY

#15 Jan 10, 2013
DumDum Suckers wrote:
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I got a Raise, I got a RAISE! Go back to SLEEP....if you were brilliant, you would know we have no cost of living raise, your health & dental insurance costs more each year out of your own pocket. Then you forgot the nice bonuses every 6 months that we lost when the economy tanked...I don't call that a raise, it is a pay & benefits CUT. IF you got a raise, you must be a TEMP with no benefits and little understanding of money & the economy and little or NO chance of ever having a permanent job, which by the way, takes a TEMP 6 years now....
No. I was talking about the raise in the pants I got. I don't work at Toyota. I'm a ninja by trade.
Rotating Shifts are next

Richmond, KY

#16 Jan 10, 2013
Gtown jeep wrote:
Quality is next then conveyance
No, that is backwards, conveyance,door line, IP line , then Quality
get with it

Gay, GA

#18 Jan 13, 2013
These positions are having their pay cut because it's mostly longtime employees working in them, and they want those employees gone. Think it's a coincidence that the announcement came so soon after the early retirement offer? Should be pretty obvious to anyone with a brain that this pay cut is meant to be an incentive to get those longtime highly-paid, cushy job employees to take the retirement offer and voluntarily walk out the door so they can be replaced with lower-paid workers.

What you Toyota folks are caught up in is a full blown paradigm shift. TMMK, along with all the other southern automotive corridor plants are going from places where blue collar workers could earn an upper middle class living to run of the mill manufacturing plants, paying run of the mill manufacturing wages. Eventually, there will be no real difference between working at Toyota or working at Johnson Controls or Leggett & Platt.

And really, why should there be? It's all manufacturing.

Why is this happening? Because when GM went bankrupt, the union had to make really deep concessions to keep those jobs. New workers don't make anything near what they used to, and the benefits aren't nearly as good. Since the southern plants generally paid union scale wages and kept union level benefits, those concessions basically gave GM an immediate advantage over the southern plants. In order to remain competitive in the changing market, Toyota is having to cut their labor costs as well.

And just the other day, the Michigan legislature passed a "right to work" law that's eventually going to kill the UAW by no longer requiring membership to work in certain plants. Since wages and benefits are shop-wide based on position, most employees will drop their union memberships to save themselves the dues, believing the union will continue looking after them and bargaining for raises, bonuses, benefits, and all the other things that have allowed them to live comfortable middle-class lives for so long. What they don't realize is that as the dues dry up, so will the union itself. It won't be long before there IS NO UNION.

And just as you're seeing now, as the union worker goes, so goes the TMMK worker. Think about that next time you hear one of your fellow team members bashing the union.
seemorebutts

Georgetown, KY

#19 Jan 13, 2013
Thats smart do away with all the good jobs so you will never have hope of getting a better job. It's stupid ass bastarads like you that have gotten america where it is now. Have fun being online another 20 you doush
Hearnoevil

Georgetown, KY

#20 Jan 14, 2013
seemorebutts wrote:
Thats smart do away with all the good jobs so you will never have hope of getting a better job. It's stupid ass bastarads like you that have gotten america where it is now. Have fun being online another 20 you doush
Ugh. Who are you talking to?8058
come on

United States

#21 Jan 14, 2013
Everyone crying about the loss of BONUSES when the economy crashed..... Do you realize that tmmk employees are some of the very few in Kentucky that didn't lose their job and kept making the same hourly pay. Most of the temps you love to bash work there solely because they lost their job when the economy crashed and are just glad to be able to put food on the table for their family. Everyone's cost of living has gone up not just yours! Everyone would like to make more money, not just you! Your envy and greed has corrupted your mind into believing everyone owes you something. Be thankful for what you have.

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