the average iq by race
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bill

Bear, DE

#1 Nov 18, 2012
After steve made his comments about those smart asians I did a little research. It looks like asians have average iq's of 110. Whites about 100 and blacks 85. Can somebody please prove this wrong

Since: Apr 12

Riverside, NJ

#2 Nov 18, 2012
bill wrote:
After steve made his comments about those smart asians I did a little research. It looks like asians have average iq's of 110. Whites about 100 and blacks 85. Can somebody please prove this wrong
Unfortunately, to my knowledge there is nothing to say that those numbers are wrong. However the argument can be made that since IQ is a gauge of potential, one can far exceed their potential, or as one of my favorite cheesy jokes go, one could have all of the potential in the world... But no kinetic. XD. I'm not sure if that's any help to you.
Eastseminole

Orlando, FL

#3 Nov 19, 2012
bill wrote:
After steve made his comments about those smart asians I did a little research. It looks like asians have average iq's of 110. Whites about 100 and blacks 85. Can somebody please prove this wrong
I doubt it can be proven wrong.
Ain't it tough when facts get it the way of spin?

Since: Apr 12

Glassboro, NJ

#4 Nov 19, 2012
Eastseminole wrote:
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I doubt it can be proven wrong.
Ain't it tough when facts get it the way of spin?
... what spin?
Ernest

Minoa, NY

#5 Nov 19, 2012
bill wrote:
After steve made his comments about those smart asians I did a little research. It looks like asians have average iq's of 110. Whites about 100 and blacks 85. Can somebody please prove this wrong
Seems like his post touched on the subject of Asians high intelligence,highly educated and their desire to work amongst own without government support and them supporting Obama by an overwhelming 71%. But you do research on the I.Q of races, instead of researching why the Asians felt Obama was the better candidate. Kinda makes your I.Q on the low side.
Eastseminole

Orlando, FL

#6 Nov 20, 2012
Ernest wrote:
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Seems like his post touched on the subject of Asians high intelligence,highly educated and their desire to work amongst own without government support and them supporting Obama by an overwhelming 71%. But you do research on the I.Q of races, instead of researching why the Asians felt Obama was the better candidate. Kinda makes your I.Q on the low side.
Asians bought the Obama racist BS- which shows you can have a high IQ, but really not be very bright

Since: Apr 12

Glassboro, NJ

#7 Nov 20, 2012
Ernest wrote:
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Seems like his post touched on the subject of Asians high intelligence,highly educated and their desire to work amongst own without government support and them supporting Obama by an overwhelming 71%. But you do research on the I.Q of races, instead of researching why the Asians felt Obama was the better candidate. Kinda makes your I.Q on the low side.
Ever think for a moment that this was something that jumped out when fact-checking the statement? Most people use google and bing these days and searching education and/or intelligence of a race ( which I'd think would be one of the first things you checked, since the statement in question seems to be pointing out that the event somehow may or may not depend on this.) on those engines can easily crank out a result having to do with those numbers, depending on the wording used. The search result can be pretty vague sometimes.

Since: Apr 12

Riverside, NJ

#8 Nov 21, 2012
Although that's assuming he wasn't using any kind of academic search engine like jstor or academic search premier or anything like that.

Anyway. Those are the numbers. I wouldn't be too worried about it though. It's not that big a deal.
Steve

Riverton, NJ

#9 Nov 22, 2012
Eastseminole wrote:
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Asians bought the Obama racist BS- which shows you can have a high IQ, but really not be very bright
Yeah, OK.
Steve

Riverton, NJ

#10 Nov 22, 2012
bill wrote:
After steve made his comments about those smart asians I did a little research. It looks like asians have average iq's of 110. Whites about 100 and blacks 85. Can somebody please prove this wrong
That is old news but the fact that those intelligent job creating Asians voted for Obama at 70%+ isn't. It is quite obvious they saw Romney as a terrible choice for this country..........
Steve

Riverton, NJ

#11 Nov 22, 2012
Ernest wrote:
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Seems like his post touched on the subject of Asians high intelligence,highly educated and their desire to work amongst own without government support and them supporting Obama by an overwhelming 71%. But you do research on the I.Q of races, instead of researching why the Asians felt Obama was the better candidate. Kinda makes your I.Q on the low side.
You're absolutely correct.
Steve

Riverton, NJ

#12 Nov 22, 2012
Haruko57 wrote:
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Ever think for a moment that this was something that jumped out when fact-checking the statement? Most people use google and bing these days and searching education and/or intelligence of a race ( which I'd think would be one of the first things you checked, since the statement in question seems to be pointing out that the event somehow may or may not depend on this.) on those engines can easily crank out a result having to do with those numbers, depending on the wording used. The search result can be pretty vague sometimes.
You're not that naive are you?

Since: Apr 12

Glassboro, NJ

#14 Nov 27, 2012
Steve wrote:
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You're not that naive are you?
Your not that much of an ass as to tease someone and call into question their intelligence for their concerns are you?
Austin

Phoenix, AZ

#15 Dec 2, 2012
bill wrote:
After steve made his comments about those smart asians I did a little research. It looks like asians have average iq's of 110. Whites about 100 and blacks 85. Can somebody please prove this wrong
First of all, those numbers are slightly off. The figure is this: "Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa." (Rushton, Jensen).

Another study done in 1994 found this: "The Bell Curve (1994) stated that the average IQ of African Americans was 85, Latino 89, White 103, Asian 106, and Jews 113."

Taking both studies into account, the deviations between White/Asian IQ is trivial. The most startling deviations occur with Blacks respective to all other (tested) races at the lower end of the spectrum, and Jews respective to all other races, at the higher. But lets scrutinize these figures further. Why is it that there is a 15 point deviation between Blacks in America and Blacks in sub-Saharan Africa? The answer is the Flynn Effect. "The Flynn effect is the substantial and long-sustained increase in intelligence test scores measured in many parts of the world from roughly 1930 to the present day."

The reason for this is clear: Not that humans now are smarter than humans in 1930, the Flynn effect has been too rapid for genetic selection to be the cause. Rather, the reason is an increase in executive thinking. This is innate for modernized societies. Basically, increases in IQ do not correlate with increases in actual intelligence, but a mode of thinking that is measurable by an IQ test.

There is so much conflicting data on what IQ even means to really say if it measures all intellectual capacities of the human mind. Also, race is so casually defined here. A lot of geneticists think that race goes beyond ostensible differences such as skin color and facial features, etc. For instance, there are just as many genetic differences between Northern Welsh people and Southern Welsh people, Scottish and English, etc; as there are between White people and Black people. So even race is up for interpretation here!

Basically, don't worry about it. You are an individual with your own genetic code and your own IQ... whatever the hell that even means.

Since: Jan 08

Willingboro, NJ

#16 Dec 3, 2012
Austin wrote:
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First of all, those numbers are slightly off. The figure is this: "Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa." (Rushton, Jensen).
Another study done in 1994 found this: "The Bell Curve (1994) stated that the average IQ of African Americans was 85, Latino 89, White 103, Asian 106, and Jews 113."
Taking both studies into account, the deviations between White/Asian IQ is trivial. The most startling deviations occur with Blacks respective to all other (tested) races at the lower end of the spectrum, and Jews respective to all other races, at the higher. But lets scrutinize these figures further. Why is it that there is a 15 point deviation between Blacks in America and Blacks in sub-Saharan Africa? The answer is the Flynn Effect. "The Flynn effect is the substantial and long-sustained increase in intelligence test scores measured in many parts of the world from roughly 1930 to the present day."
The reason for this is clear: Not that humans now are smarter than humans in 1930, the Flynn effect has been too rapid for genetic selection to be the cause. Rather, the reason is an increase in executive thinking. This is innate for modernized societies. Basically, increases in IQ do not correlate with increases in actual intelligence, but a mode of thinking that is measurable by an IQ test.
There is so much conflicting data on what IQ even means to really say if it measures all intellectual capacities of the human mind. Also, race is so casually defined here. A lot of geneticists think that race goes beyond ostensible differences such as skin color and facial features, etc. For instance, there are just as many genetic differences between Northern Welsh people and Southern Welsh people, Scottish and English, etc; as there are between White people and Black people. So even race is up for interpretation here!
Basically, don't worry about it. You are an individual with your own genetic code and your own IQ... whatever the hell that even means.
Well stated and crafted argument, bravo. This forum needs more like you.
Steve

Riverton, NJ

#17 Dec 7, 2012

Since: Apr 12

Riverside, NJ

#18 Dec 7, 2012
Steve wrote:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/ pr/961093
Lol Well Fox News is a simplistic channel. They like to oversimplify their news on many occasions and tend to be far less rational about the information while they're at it. To me, most other news channels aren't much better though. XD
Dummy

United States

#20 Mar 12, 2013
I know plenty of people with high IQ's who can't do simple things like change a tire.

Since: Apr 12

Glassboro, NJ

#21 Mar 14, 2013
Dummy wrote:
I know plenty of people with high IQ's who can't do simple things like change a tire.
Lol so true. A lot of people are either too lazy to learn how, or learned at one point but didn't need to use the skill for an extended amount of time and forgot. I had a flat once and suddenly had to remember my dad's explanation of how to change to my spare, 5 years after the lesson... I had everything I needed so I just stared at the car and equipment until it came back to me... but it took me forever to actually do it... far longer than it probably should have. Up to that point my thinking was, "Why would I need to know how to change a tire? That's what my family pays our mechanic friend to run maintenance on our cars each year for. My tires should be fine as long as I keep the air pressure in them right?"... stupid nails in a gravel lot... oh well at least I know I can figure it out if it ever happens again.
Mooseman

Searcy, AR

#22 Apr 21, 2013
Well if race realy does have corelation to an iq i must be some misfit being a Mestizo(cherokee french and scottish) acording to what i researched my iq should be in the low to mid 90s but its 115 and considering my envirement i grew up in which was low income housing non present father an abusive mother and frequent drug abuse as an adolescent most of my early role models were thugs and i fit in the mexicans because i looked like them thick hair and very tan skin as well as some facial features so i think this whole iq shit just goes to brain devlopement race and envirement have little to do with it

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