Zavalla, Texas and Area In 2013. Keep Everyone Informed

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Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#1 May 28, 2013
I notice there hasn't been a newer thread about the Zavalla area and was mentioned on a Huntington Thread last week. Since there was a "strange" and unusual happening featured in the Lufkin Daily News about a court type trial of the city secretary.
And also a great article on the Zavalla Police Dept and the restrictions placed on it by Mayor Davis.

I decided to start a new thread, so here it is.
Zavalla residents, please post any information you may have. There are plenty of things residents of the entire area should be "Worried" about.

The Angelina County Commissioners did away with your "Resident Constable" and apparently the only local in city law is the Police Chief and the Mayor has ordered him to not enforce the law.

I heard there aren't any "first responders" left and I sometime hear no one respond when the Zavalla fire dept is paged.

As remote as that part of the county is and with all the out of town visitors to the lake area , the county commissioners made a big mistake. Almost any area of the county could have done without a constable, JP, and sub courthouse with less risk.
Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#2 May 28, 2013
http://lufkindailynews.com/news/local/article...

‘Trial’ of Pigg an unorthodox council meeting

Posted: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:30 am

STEVE KNIGHT/The Lufkin News




ZAVALLA — The council chamber at Zavalla City Hall was set up like a trial room. A chair was used as a witness stand. Tables were set up for attorneys.

It looked like a trial. It sounded like a trial.




The Zavalla City Council voted to terminate the employment of former city secretary Rhonda Pigg on Monday after conducting what was termed a due process hearing which started on April 25. At the least, the proceeding was unusual for a city council meeting. At the most, it may have been unprecedented for any council meeting in this area.

Legal terminology usually reserved for criminal trials was used ~~~ Much More
Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#3 May 28, 2013
http://lufkindailynews.com/news/local/article...

Zavalla council discusses police department funding
Posted: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:15 am
By STEVE KNIGHT/The Lufkin News

~~~ Rumors of the department’s demise had been fueled recently because Police Chief Joey Courtney is currently the sole member of the department from what was once, according to a 2002 city ordinance, a force of four paid officers and four unpaid officers.

“The police department doesn’t get to charge a fee,” Courtney said, referring to fees for water and sewer service.“We have to rely on the tax base from the general fund, which hasn’t been given.”

To add to the city’s problems, Davis said the city had not conducted a financial audit since 2007, and therefore is not eligible for any grants to assist the police or any other department nor has the city been in compliance with a U.S. Department of Agriculture loan agreement regarding the water and sewer system requiring annual audits. Those audits are currently being conducted, Davis said.

NOTE: See the last Sunday 5/26/13 LDN paper for the complete article.
Steve Knight has been doing a very good job on reporting Zavalla and Huntington govt news.
Copy write laws only allow a small amount of an article be posted along with a link and author (as I understand)

Anyone wanting to keep up with their community should subscribe to the local newspaper. Since KTRE TV has tied up with the Tyler TV, we are lucky if we just get bits n pieces.

And the only Radio Station that reports their "LOCAL" news is the one in Jasper.
Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#4 May 30, 2013
WHERE ISTHE ZAVALLA FIRE DEPT?????

As I type this, the dispatcher has paged out the Zavalla Fire Dept about 10 minutes ago with no response.

Then Ora and Fuller Springs were paged to go and responded enroute.
Then Moffitt volunteered with a tanker.
Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#5 May 30, 2013
It was first reported the house WAS NOT fully involved and everyone was out.
Zavalla has not responded.
Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#6 May 30, 2013
1. Dispatch advises that she has received calls that house now fully involved.

2. Zavalla finally reports they are enroute. They report the can see smoke.

3. Zavalla reports they have arrived on scene.

4. A few minutes later, Ora reports they are also 10-23 (on scene)

5. Fuller Springs and Moffitt are apparently still enroute. Time is 11:19 PM Thur nite 5/30/13
Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#7 May 30, 2013
11:21PM = Fuller Springs Truck on scene.

11:25PM = Unreadable radio --- I "assume" Moffitt arrived.
Richard Brunk

United States

#8 May 30, 2013
Mr. Diddly Squat let me see if I can answer your questions about ZVFD

1. Every member of the ZVFD actually have regular job that requires them to work Mon-Fri. So at 11:00 at night our people are usually asleep which means the have to get up and get dressed that takes a few.

2.ZVFD keeps all of their trucks at their station not in their front yards so it takes a bit to get there

3. We do not allow our people run their personal vehicles like emergency vehicles they have to obey all traffic laws when in their own vehicle so if they get behind some one that might slow them down and depending on where they live it might take them 3-5 minutes to get their. I live 2.8 miles from the station and can 4-5 minutes to get to the station

4. Unlike other departments we do not issue our members radios as we do not want 15 people all trying to get on the radio at once an sounding stupid. So they either have to call in by cell phone to dispatch, which if they do you will not hear that on a scanner, or wait tell they get in route from the station to use the vehicle radio to call Lufkin

5. Along with that same lines ZVFD chooses to spend their money on new trucks instead of buying
radios for every tom dick and harry on the department, as a matter of fact that is were I am at right now bring a new 2013 Brush truck back to Zavalla

6. I checked with Lufkin dispatch, called them on my cell and our engine checked in route to the fire 10 minutes after being paged out

&. The residence that burned was a 40 year old rich lighter pine house, you have to get to these quickly within 3-5 minutes which is out the window as we are all volunteers

It is obvious from your posts on here that you to seem concerned about who answers what calls, so why don't you go join one of the local VFDs and help them out instead of sitting back and listening to the scanner traffic and getting only half the story
Richard Brunk

United States

#9 May 30, 2013
oh yea and keep in mind we are a VOLUNTEER department whose members do not get paid squat so until the City of Zavalla LOL sets up a paid department LOL the people of the will get what they get when we can we have lives and bills to pay just like everyone else
Sue Hough

United States

#10 May 31, 2013
Diddly Squat how amusing! You name says it all. If can't put your name to it then your only purpose is to stir up trouble. Once again apparantly you don't know DIDDLY SQUAT!!

Since: Jan 13

Zavalla, TX

#11 May 31, 2013
Diddly Squat wrote:
WHERE ISTHE ZAVALLA FIRE DEPT?????
As I type this, the dispatcher has paged out the Zavalla Fire Dept about 10 minutes ago with no response.
Then Ora and Fuller Springs were paged to go and responded enroute.
Then Moffitt volunteered with a tanker.
Did Zavalla ever take a truck? I also thought I only heared one of their members? What representation did u hear?
Richard Brunk

United States

#12 May 31, 2013
Thank you Ms. Hough
Sue Hough wrote:
Diddly Squat how amusing! You name says it all. If can't put your name to it then your only purpose is to stir up trouble. Once again apparantly you don't know DIDDLY SQUAT!!
BON CHANCE

Lufkin, TX

#13 Jun 3, 2013
Sue Hough wrote:
Diddly Squat how amusing! You name says it all. If can't put your name to it then your only purpose is to stir up trouble. Once again apparantly you don't know DIDDLY SQUAT!!
I'd have a problem with a city that the mayor and judge are the same...who do you go to if you have problem with one or the other? I just find that perplexing? Like a dictatorship? Just sayin'...
Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#14 Jun 3, 2013
Richard Brunk wrote:
Mr. Diddly Squat let me see if I can answer your questions about ZVFD
1. Every member of the ZVFD actually have regular job that requires them to work Mon-Fri. So at 11:00 at night our people are usually asleep which means the have to get up and get dressed that takes a few.
2.ZVFD keeps all of their trucks at their station not in their front yards so it takes a bit to get there
3. We do not allow our people run their personal vehicles like emergency vehicles they have to obey all traffic laws when in their own vehicle so if they get behind some one that might slow them down and depending on where they live it might take them 3-5 minutes to get their. I live 2.8 miles from the station and can 4-5 minutes to get to the station
4. Unlike other departments we do not issue our members radios as we do not want 15 people all trying to get on the radio at once an sounding stupid. So they either have to call in by cell phone to dispatch, which if they do you will not hear that on a scanner, or wait tell they get in route from the station to use the vehicle radio to call Lufkin
5. Along with that same lines ZVFD chooses to spend their money on new trucks instead of buying
radios for every tom dick and harry on the department, as a matter of fact that is were I am at right now bring a new 2013 Brush truck back to Zavalla
6. I checked with Lufkin dispatch, called them on my cell and our engine checked in route to the fire 10 minutes after being paged out
&. The residence that burned was a 40 year old rich lighter pine house, you have to get to these quickly within 3-5 minutes which is out the window as we are all volunteers
It is obvious from your posts on here that you to seem concerned about who answers what calls, so why don't you go join one of the local VFDs and help them out instead of sitting back and listening to the scanner traffic and getting only half the story
Richard.... As I look at my Texas Firemen's Training School certificate of attendance at the 28th Annual Session and completion of the "Fire Officer Training" with a grade of 100 dated July 21-26 1957 I remember the instructor saying that the first 5 minutes of a fire usually determines how much can be saved.

So it is vitally important that volunteers run emergency getting to their trucks. That is the reason there is a Texas state law that allows this. I don't think this is something "WE" (You) can legally prohibit. If my house was on fire, I would certainly want my local fire trucks to arrive faster than those 15 or so miles away (even if there is a mutual aid agreement)

I do agree with part of your item #4. That can be handled with training and getting those plugs of tobaccy out of the jaws. In the latter part of my military, I taught radio operation. In the early part I was rejected as an instructor because I had what the Army called a "Lazy Tongue" which was common for "southerners".

On both item # 4 and 5, It would seem to me that a voice "pager" would be a 'better' solution than a two way radio for initial notification. I carried one for over 20 years hanging on my belt. How does your member that may be out feeding the animals, squirrel hunting, having coffee at Charlene's etc even know there is a fire so they can call the dispatcher on the cell phone, or go to the station to get on the truck radio.

Also, when a VFD member don't immediately respond by radio that he/she is enroute to the station, then the dispatcher begins toning out other distant departments that may not be needed for someone burning a stump. This causes unnecessary family disruption and wear and tear and fuel expense.

And re the last sentence in your top post, At this time, I can actually do more good monitoring the radio traffic and critiquing and sharing my knowledge than joining a department. However I do have MANY years as both a paid and volunteer fireman (including chief in another area)

ON A SIDE Note, see next post.
Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#16 Jun 3, 2013
Sue Hough wrote:
Diddly Squat how amusing! You name says it all. If can't put your name to it then your only purpose is to stir up trouble. Once again apparantly you don't know DIDDLY SQUAT!!
I heard that your Mayor Davis Does NOT actually Live In Within The City Limits, therefore isn't eligible to be Mayor.

There was three (3) people present when I was told this.
BON CHANCE

Lufkin, TX

#17 Jun 3, 2013
He lives in a house owned by Nicole Yarbrough's (a council member that no longer lives in the city) family. Go figure...I'm sure Hough can confirm whether it's actually inside city limits though.
Diddly Squat

Lufkin, TX

#18 Jun 3, 2013
BON CHANCE wrote:
He lives in a house owned by Nicole Yarbrough's (a council member that no longer lives in the city) family. Go figure...I'm sure Hough can confirm whether it's actually inside city limits though.
my-my-my BON CHANCE--- You sure seem to know a bunch about both Zavalla AND Huntington mayors ... lolololol

Now I am not criticizing you at all.
Could there have been some skullduggery involving Mayor Davis son's problems, elder Davis threats to get even, Yarbroughs house becoming available in the city, and elder Davis occupying it and running for mayor.

WHERE DID HE LIVE BEFORE MOVING IN HER HOUSE.
Richard Brunk

Grandview, TX

#19 Jun 3, 2013
Now I its my turn.

In the last 2 years 16 volunteer first responder/fire fighters have been killed and 26 injured in Texas responding to calls in their private vehicles. That's 42 too many for me. Structures can be replaced lives can not.

As far as the communication issue the system used by the VFDs is 15 years old. Angelina County slopes downward and it is wetter at the south end then at the north end of the county. Because of these factors a lot of times the Responders are never "toned" out to calls as the signal is too weak to set our pagers of. As a matter of fact I was told that the system the county VFDs use has been on back up battery power for a week now which means the signal was not strong enough to reach Zavalla. Case in point the fire on Thursday night not one of our pagers went off. zavalla
Diddly Squat wrote:
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Richard.... As I look at my Texas Firemen's Training School certificate of attendance at the 28th Annual Session and completion of the "Fire Officer Training" with a grade of 100 dated July 21-26 1957 I remember the instructor saying that the first 5 minutes of a fire usually determines how much can be saved.
So it is vitally important that volunteers run emergency getting to their trucks. That is the reason there is a Texas state law that allows this. I don't think this is something "WE" (You) can legally prohibit. If my house was on fire, I would certainly want my local fire trucks to arrive faster than those 15 or so miles away (even if there is a mutual aid agreement)
I do agree with part of your item #4. That can be handled with training and getting those plugs of tobaccy out of the jaws. In the latter part of my military, I taught radio operation. In the early part I was rejected as an instructor because I had what the Army called a "Lazy Tongue" which was common for "southerners".
On both item # 4 and 5, It would seem to me that a voice "pager" would be a 'better' solution than a two way radio for initial notification. I carried one for over 20 years hanging on my belt. How does your member that may be out feeding the animals, squirrel hunting, having coffee at Charlene's etc even know there is a fire so they can call the dispatcher on the cell phone, or go to the station to get on the truck radio.
Also, when a VFD member don't immediately respond by radio that he/she is enroute to the station, then the dispatcher begins toning out other distant departments that may not be needed for someone burning a stump. This causes unnecessary family disruption and wear and tear and fuel expense.
And re the last sentence in your top post, At this time, I can actually do more good monitoring the radio traffic and critiquing and sharing my knowledge than joining a department. However I do have MANY years as both a paid and volunteer fireman (including chief in another area)
ON A SIDE Note, see next post.
Richard Brunk

Grandview, TX

#20 Jun 3, 2013
You and everyone else, the problem is that the Mayor and his folks have not done enough to get slapped by the authorities, so they think that they can do anything they want. Heck our Fire Department refused to accept the Cities funding this year because we did not want them medaling in our affairs. But mark my words the Mayor and his folks are gonna keep on and the are going to cross that line one to many times and the sky will open up and dump on them. But until then we the citizens of Zavalla will have to suffer.
BON CHANCE wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd have a problem with a city that the mayor and judge are the same...who do you go to if you have problem with one or the other? I just find that perplexing? Like a dictatorship? Just sayin'...
BON CHANCE

Lufkin, TX

#21 Jun 4, 2013
Diddly Squat wrote:
<quoted text>
my-my-my BON CHANCE--- You sure seem to know a bunch about both Zavalla AND Huntington mayors ... lolololol
Now I am not criticizing you at all.
Could there have been some skullduggery involving Mayor Davis son's problems, elder Davis threats to get even, Yarbroughs house becoming available in the city, and elder Davis occupying it and running for mayor.
WHERE DID HE LIVE BEFORE MOVING IN HER HOUSE.
I could care less if you're criticizing me, DS. I've lived here my ENTIRE life...I know most of the citizens in Zavalla and Huntington. I've heard both sides to the stories currently going on...I don't just listen to one where you have alot of disgruntled people posting on a gossip forum. I ask questions and investigate if it's an issue I feel I need answers to.
Amazing what you can find out that way...not all is what it seems...for the most part, this site has been riddled with tabloid gossip like innuendos. I'm sure Davis or the Z councilmembers can answer your question as to where Davis used to live...he's never owned property...I know that...open records request verified that. See, Stua and his bunch are not the only ones that can perform that task. Don't have a problem with it myself except when it gets ridiculous in his case as stated in the LDN article. Costs us taxpayers $$$ and the city employees are not able to perform their jobs. Any body with a brain can see that. And I'm not critizing you either, for what it's worth. I just don't like the gossip that has run roughshod on this board in the past and people treating it like gospel. Especially, when the proof is out there, if you just care to pursue it.

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