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Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17771 Jul 10, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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And by the way ...
What's wrong with insurance companies getting to insure only healthy people and leave those sick turkeys for the taxpayers to take care of, and then canceling coverage of them healthy folks that gets sick.
That's how they make their profits, and the onliest people screwed is the taxpayers cause they got to provide medical care to the sick, sicker, and sickest.
Sounds line good capitalism to me - the instance companies make huge profits and the taxpayers get screwed.
We worship the God of Capitalism in this Country by God (of Capitalism) and anything that interferes with profits, in any way, is just damn sinful - and I, for your information and gonna be part of no sinnin.
I thought that you hated capitalism, now I know for sure. You actually think that insurance companies shouldn't make any money? If they make no profit then they wouldn't exist. You would have no insurance. The same goes for Ford Motor Company. If they do not make any money on the cars they sell, they are out of business. You have no car to drive.
Don't you realize that the older a person gets the more costly the insurance becomes? That is because the older person will cost the insurance company more. The insurance company isn't stupid.
If insurance companies are forced to insure people that are very old and sick, they must charge them much higher rates to cover the cost of their illness's. If they do not charge them more than there are only 3 choices. Either charge the younger insured more for their policies or go out of business. The third is a single payer, a government controlled system that pays for everybody. Guess what? Someone is going to pay those medical bills. It will be the taxpayer that gets screwed again as the money must come from somewhere. That would be you bigshot! Get ready to shell out as that is what you and your hero Obamas really want. A single payer system. That would be called socialized medicine.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17772 Jul 10, 2013
This is a really interesting and informative article of how and why both political parties are selling us out on the Immigration Bill.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/experts-both-parti...
OMTE

Ford City, PA

#17774 Jul 10, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
This is a really interesting and informative article of how and why both political parties are selling us out on the Immigration Bill.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/experts-both-parti...
It's like they want to replace the poor American workers with illegal criminal immigrants, for cheap labor and drugs. Ya know? Only problem where do the poor Americans go? The rich only care about profits. The rich care nothing for the poor American. They'd rather have illegal immigrants. They don't talk back and can afford to take a lower wage, because they don't pay taxes. What our government is doin to the south is wrong on so many levels. It's almost like giving the south to mexico. I don't know about you, but I love south Ga. and I d*mn sure ain't leavin and/or lettin the mexican have it. There is no way that bill will pass the House.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17776 Jul 10, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>I see that you replied to "wait a minutes" question, as I didn't get to your post until now. That is why I posted the post to "wait a minute", to ask you.
You did reply but you did not answer his question.
Your always bragging at how you travel and are doing this and that. You are always eating a huge stake in some exotic place. I bet you have a nice vehicle and live well off all that union retirement. The government needs to come and see you and get their money. You seem to have plenty. You should be willing to give till it hurts. Don't be stingy.
This is your own idea so what do you think?
Why be mad at me ?

I'm not a freeloading deadbeat. I have health care insurance. I even subsidize my employees' health care insurance.

Be mad at those freeloading deadbeats who want to force taxpayers to provide free hospital and medical care for them and their families.

Be mad at those hypocritical blowhards who enjoy Medicare, Medicare Part D, V.A. medical care, Tri-Care, or have their mommas enjoying Medicaid beds in nursing homes - and whine about "socialist" health care.

God bless the F.O.P.!

Be happy for me and my co-workers. We battled those management scabs every step of every way for 22 years - and scratched and clawed decent pay and benefits - then those freeloading deadbeat scabs enjoyed the benefits we obtained.

Now, my friends and I collect 80% to 100% pensions, for life - because we fought for our rights, instead of standing around whining - and trying to keep our fellow Americans from getting better pay and benefits.

Travel is easy.

Thanks to corporate tax law, almost every trip is a legitimate business expense, so almost every trip is a write-off. And yes, I have a CPA, Enrolled Agent who does our taxes and makes sure we follow every tax law to the absolute letter.

or it's completely free, because its paid for by a company that wants to do business, and the trip is required.

If you want to invest in Central or South America, you have to travel to Central and South America.

Ever wonder why the doctors like to have their conventions in Hawaii - thanks taxpayers.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17777 Jul 10, 2013
Why just blame the rich for our immigration problems? The rich could not have any legislation passed if it were not for the Congress and Senators passing bills for them. There is one standing president and one past president now pushing this immigration reform bill. These are the people that are the guilty ones, as they write and pass these bills into law.
The rich are like a kid asking his Dad for twenty bucks. Dad says sure take 50 bucks. The kid goes out and buys 50 bucks worth of dope. The Dad could have and should have said no I am not giving you the twenty bucks. The kid didn't make Dad give him the fifty bucks. It is as simple as saying NO.
I think the house might rewrite the bill and it will be good enough that Obama, Rubio and his buddies will get 75% of what they really wanted anyway. In other words they will be selling us out while trying to make us think that they fought for us. I have very little faith in our politicians or our system anymore.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#17778 Jul 10, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Notice you have no rebuttal argument.
We'll put you down as one of those freeloading deadbeats who enjoy my paying for your medical care.
Let's see... You want to force the taxpayers to provide you and your family with free hospital and medical care because you won't accept personal responsibility.
That makes you the liberal socialist commie Libtard ?
I want freeloading deadbeats to be forces to buy insurance to pay for their own and their families medical costs because I believe in personal responsibility.
That makes me a true conservative.
Uh oh ... You're in trouble now.
Hey... Since you want us taxpayers to give you free medical care ...want us to stop by and do your laundry too ?
I refuted every single point you made. Your cluelessness continues, IObamabot from Libroid. Also, I posted an article showing you just how insane you are in regard to your OPINION about Obmacare and the way people feel about it.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#17779 Jul 10, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Damn you !!!
Stop with the facts.
On Right Wing Planet "We don't need no stinkin facts." or logic, or reason, or knowledge, or history, or science.
If God wanted us to have insurance He'd of provided it, or had the guvment give us Medicare, or guvment Medicare Part D, or the Guvment V.A. medical system, or Guvment Tri-Care, or let us Momma in the nursin home in a guvment Medicaid bed....
Ah... hell... We admit it.
We just a bunch of freeloadin deadbeats who want the taxpayers to pay our hospital and medical bills.
Sorry for botherin ya.
Just more of the same old blah blah blah from IOBamabot from the planet LIbroid.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#17780 Jul 10, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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By the way, how did those Right Wing Wacko Georgia Senators vote on the immigration bill ?
Yaaaaaaaay. They voted: NO!

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#17781 Jul 10, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Notice you have no rebuttal argument.
We'll put you down as one of those freeloading deadbeats who enjoy my paying for your medical care.
Let's see... You want to force the taxpayers to provide you and your family with free hospital and medical care because you won't accept personal responsibility.
That makes you the liberal socialist commie Libtard ?
I want freeloading deadbeats to be forces to buy insurance to pay for their own and their families medical costs because I believe in personal responsibility.
That makes me a true conservative.
Uh oh ... You're in trouble now.
Hey... Since you want us taxpayers to give you free medical care ...want us to stop by and do your laundry too ?
Notice you didn't rebutt the article on post 17742. Not surprised.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17782 Jul 10, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>I thought that you hated capitalism, now I know for sure. You actually think that insurance companies shouldn't make any money? If they make no profit then they wouldn't exist. You would have no insurance. The same goes for Ford Motor Company. If they do not make any money on the cars they sell, they are out of business. You have no car to drive.
Don't you realize that the older a person gets the more costly the insurance becomes? That is because the older person will cost the insurance company more. The insurance company isn't stupid.
If insurance companies are forced to insure people that are very old and sick, they must charge them much higher rates to cover the cost of their illness's. If they do not charge them more than there are only 3 choices. Either charge the younger insured more for their policies or go out of business. The third is a single payer, a government controlled system that pays for everybody. Guess what? Someone is going to pay those medical bills. It will be the taxpayer that gets screwed again as the money must come from somewhere. That would be you bigshot! Get ready to shell out as that is what you and your hero Obamas really want. A single payer system. That would be called socialized medicine.
Nope, I love Capitalism.

I simply understand that there are circumstances where capitalism is the stupidest answer to the question.

It may, or may not make sense to allow regulated private insurers to insure your home and car.

It is absolutely idiotically moronic to allow private insurers to insure the cost of medical care for yourself or your family.

Think about it.

First, billions of dollars that could be used to provide hospital and medical care are unnecessarily diverted to profit taking.

Second, the incentives are ass-backwards.

Insurance companies exist to make the highest profit possible - they don't give a damn if you or your kids live, die, or roll in the mud like little piglets - that just ain't their thing.

So they charge the highest amount possible and pay the least benefits possible.

So you pay the most - and get the least.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that is ludicrously stupid.

But hey ... If someone worships the Sacred God of Capitalism - its more important to them that United Healthcare's profits explode - that United's CEO gets his billion dollar golden parachute, than it is that their kids receive medical care.

As for me... capitalism is a fine system to determine how much your gonna pay for a long-neck beer - or how much you're gonna pay a consultant to help you maximize your company's profits,

- but single-payor, government regulated health insurance and/or care is the only way to go.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17783 Jul 10, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
This is a really interesting and informative article of how and why both political parties are selling us out on the Immigration Bill.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/experts-both-parti...
I always knew you was one of them socialists that want to keep our God Fearin American Companies from making a profit by hiring workers who'll work for the lowest wages and no benefits.

Why, that's 'Merican Capitalism - who the hell are you to interfere with a company hiring just who they damn well want to.

Your one 'em "do-gooders who'll be happy when we gotta shut down our factories cause we gotta hire those lazy, shiftless,'Merican workers, you demand unions and benefits and safe working conditions - bunch of wusses - instead of those hard-working 'Mexicans.

Sorry - after hearing what a "socialist" I was, I just couldn't resist poking a little fun.

Actually, I just want to deport all illegals and throw their employers in jail.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17784 Jul 10, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Why be mad at me ?
I'm not a freeloading deadbeat. I have health care insurance. I even subsidize my employees' health care insurance.
Be mad at those freeloading deadbeats who want to force taxpayers to provide free hospital and medical care for them and their families.
Be mad at those hypocritical blowhards who enjoy Medicare, Medicare Part D, V.A. medical care, Tri-Care, or have their mommas enjoying Medicaid beds in nursing homes - and whine about "socialist" health care.
God bless the F.O.P.!
Be happy for me and my co-workers. We battled those management scabs every step of every way for 22 years - and scratched and clawed decent pay and benefits - then those freeloading deadbeat scabs enjoyed the benefits we obtained.
Now, my friends and I collect 80% to 100% pensions, for life - because we fought for our rights, instead of standing around whining - and trying to keep our fellow Americans from getting better pay and benefits.
Travel is easy.
Thanks to corporate tax law, almost every trip is a legitimate business expense, so almost every trip is a write-off. And yes, I have a CPA, Enrolled Agent who does our taxes and makes sure we follow every tax law to the absolute letter.
or it's completely free, because its paid for by a company that wants to do business, and the trip is required.
If you want to invest in Central or South America, you have to travel to Central and South America.
Ever wonder why the doctors like to have their conventions in Hawaii - thanks taxpayers.
You are wrong if you think that most people on medicare do not pay. They paid into Medicare all their working life. They pay $104.00 every month to the government for their medicare. Most also pay extra for private insurance to help pay what medicare doesn't pay on their medical bills. Part D is not a government program. It is part of the medicare program in name only. It must again be paid for separately to a private insurance company. The government has nothing to do with part D. The insurance company pays out for part D drugs. Just thought you need to know.
Now Medicade is another thing that actually is free and I noticed that you didn't mention that. A totally socialist government program for the so under privileged.
The very least the government can do is to take care of our wounded and crippled veterans as they gave everything but their life. How dare you call these brave men and women deadbeats.
You are the deadbeat and have the nerve to sit at your computer and brag about it. You have just written how you use all the loopholes and laws that were made for people such as yourself to live a fine life at the expense of others. Your the deadbeat and you do not even have the sense to know it. Or do you? Maybe it takes away your feelings of guilt by trying to make everyone else a deadbeat.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17785 Jul 10, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
I always knew you was one of them socialists that want to keep our God Fearin American Companies from making a profit by hiring workers who'll work for the lowest wages and no benefits.
Why, that's 'Merican Capitalism - who the hell are you to interfere with a company hiring just who they damn well want to.
Your one 'em "do-gooders who'll be happy when we gotta shut down our factories cause we gotta hire those lazy, shiftless,'Merican workers, you demand unions and benefits and safe working conditions - bunch of wusses - instead of those hard-working 'Mexicans.
Sorry - after hearing what a "socialist" I was, I just couldn't resist poking a little fun.
Actually, I just want to deport all illegals and throw their employers in jail.
I am one of them, as you put it, patriotic Americans that say take care of our country and our American people first! Americans should have first choice at jobs.
Don't try to put words into my mouth and spin what I say just to cover your socialist a*s.
OMTE

Ford City, PA

#17786 Jul 10, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
Why just blame the rich for our immigration problems? The rich could not have any legislation passed if it were not for the Congress and Senators passing bills for them. There is one standing president and one past president now pushing this immigration reform bill. These are the people that are the guilty ones, as they write and pass these bills into law.
The rich are like a kid asking his Dad for twenty bucks. Dad says sure take 50 bucks. The kid goes out and buys 50 bucks worth of dope. The Dad could have and should have said no I am not giving you the twenty bucks. The kid didn't make Dad give him the fifty bucks. It is as simple as saying NO.
I think the house might rewrite the bill and it will be good enough that Obama, Rubio and his buddies will get 75% of what they really wanted anyway. In other words they will be selling us out while trying to make us think that they fought for us. I have very little faith in our politicians or our system anymore.
The rich are the ones that back these politician's election campaigns. They are the ones that stand to gain the most from cheap labor. If these presidents weren't their puppets and they really cared about the american people, then they would not be supporting this garbage bill. Obama is just supporting it, because he knows it will mean the end of the republican party, if this bill passes. He obviously doesn't care about 22 million Americans that are unemployed or underemployed. Why would you want to futher saturate the workforce with poor ignorant illegal CRIMINAL immigrants?
Ted Cruz and the B.A.L.A. are having a rally and march to protect American job for American workers on July 15 in Washinton D.C. They will be heard I promise.
Check them out at this website: http://www.dcmarchforjobs.com/
They can tell you how you can help to stop this if you're interested in doin so.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17787 Jul 10, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
I always knew you was one of them socialists that want to keep our God Fearin American Companies from making a profit by hiring workers who'll work for the lowest wages and no benefits.
Why, that's 'Merican Capitalism - who the hell are you to interfere with a company hiring just who they damn well want to.
Your one 'em "do-gooders who'll be happy when we gotta shut down our factories cause we gotta hire those lazy, shiftless,'Merican workers, you demand unions and benefits and safe working conditions - bunch of wusses - instead of those hard-working 'Mexicans.
Sorry - after hearing what a "socialist" I was, I just couldn't resist poking a little fun.
Actually, I just want to deport all illegals and throw their employers in jail.
So did you actually mean what you wrote or was it just satire? I can't ever tell with you. As you can tell I am a serious guy but I do have a dry sense of humor.
OMTE

Ford City, PA

#17788 Jul 10, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
Yaaaaaaaay. They voted: NO!
I think they didn't even vote at all.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17790 Jul 10, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>The rich are the ones that back these politician's election campaigns. They are the ones that stand to gain the most from cheap labor. If these presidents weren't their puppets and they really cared about the american people, then they would not be supporting this garbage bill. Obama is just supporting it, because he knows it will mean the end of the republican party, if this bill passes. He obviously doesn't care about 22 million Americans that are unemployed or underemployed. Why would you want to futher saturate the workforce with poor ignorant illegal CRIMINAL immigrants?
Ted Cruz and the B.A.L.A. are having a rally and march to protect American job for American workers on July 15 in Washinton D.C. They will be heard I promise.
Check them out at this website: http://www.dcmarchforjobs.com/
They can tell you how you can help to stop this if you're interested in doin so.
Again you are correct and I am in agreement with you.
You almost can't blame the rich for giving it a try. Like I said just a few post ago our politicians could say NO. Just like the Dad should have said to his son that wanted 20 bucks. It is a shame that a politician thinks that he must take money, which is really a bribe, from super rich donors to win an election. Maybe limits on the amount of money that a candidate can spend along with a two year term limit would help solve some of these problems.
Perhaps people with real morals and ethics that love this country should run for office. They won't as they know they will be crucified by the media and the political elite. Sad.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17791 Jul 10, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>You are wrong if you think that most people on medicare do not pay. They paid into Medicare all their working life. They pay $104.00 every month to the government for their medicare. Most also pay extra for private insurance to help pay what medicare doesn't pay on their medical bills. Part D is not a government program. It is part of the medicare program in name only. It must again be paid for separately to a private insurance company. The government has nothing to do with part D. The insurance company pays out for part D drugs. Just thought you need to know.
Now Medicade is another thing that actually is free and I noticed that you didn't mention that. A totally socialist government program for the so under privileged.
The very least the government can do is to take care of our wounded and crippled veterans as they gave everything but their life. How dare you call these brave men and women deadbeats.
You are the deadbeat and have the nerve to sit at your computer and brag about it. You have just written how you use all the loopholes and laws that were made for people such as yourself to live a fine life at the expense of others. Your the deadbeat and you do not even have the sense to know it. Or do you? Maybe it takes away your feelings of guilt by trying to make everyone else a deadbeat.
Come on -

Lets get real -

$104 a month for hospitalization and medical care - I don't know if that include drugs under Part D - for an 83 year old diabetic who needs heart medication, three stents, and $600 a month prescription medication, rehab, and home health care ?

Maybe if they paid $9,467.22 a month a private insurer would consider insuring them - them of course - they'd be rejected.

My employees in their late 50s and early 60s cost over $900 a month each for quality hospitalization and medical insurance and prescription drug insurance.

As for Medicaid - I can't recall how many affluent acquaintances I know who transferred their parents funds into trusts so that the taxpayers get to pay for Medicaid nursing home beds.

We just have to realize that allowing private insurers to profit from interposing themselves between people and their medical care is extraordinarily immoral, and economically idiotic.

Every other industrialized country on the entire planet has realized this long ago and stopped sacrificing the health and lives of their children on the alter of the Sacred Alter of their God of Capitalism.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#17792 Jul 10, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>I am one of them, as you put it, patriotic Americans that say take care of our country and our American people first! Americans should have first choice at jobs.
Don't try to put words into my mouth and spin what I say just to cover your socialist a*s.
Just pointing out that there are circumstances when a little "protectionism" - which is the ultimate in Anti-Capitalism - makes common sense.

Immigration control is one of those circumstances.

Another is health care.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#17793 Jul 10, 2013
We the People wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh great Moron, its NOT personal slander when its just stating a fact. But it is a spineless copout when you say "And thanks for confirming you would not believe any proof I might cite. Even you know your sources are bogus!
I do watch MSNBC and also FNC only to see what lies one side is telling the other side. I watch real news sources when I want to get some idea what's going on in the world, the ones FNC calls "main stream media". The ones that give the news of the day around the world, not the one focused on stupid senseless political wrangling, that's your thing.
Health insurance companies are the ones selling and implementing insurance coverage, just as they do today. Only difference is they have a few rules to follow, like they can't raise your rate or cancel you if you get sick, like they do now. Doctors are required to keep up to date digital medical records to share with your other doctors so the left hand knows what the right hand is doing, they don't now. It's also mandatory for all to pay a fair share of the health care costs they receive. Not like now when the ones without get care at the expense of the ones with insurance.
Its more like what YOU are getting for free now, kind of like Medicare for the masses only they have to pay for it. They chose the plan they want from an insurer they prefer and they pay for it, nice concept if you would just think about it.
I will admit that people who can't afford insurance get some help. But today its just not the ones who can't afford it who get help, but the ones can but prefer to gamble on not having insurance. Because they know they will get it for free anyway. Now give me your moronic take on that, it makes sense to most.
If Obamacare is so great, wonder why articles are being published almost every day that are warning us of what's to come? I guess you didn't accept the articles I posted from the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Huffington Post, Bloomberg, etc. as credible sources, huh? Guess it doesn't mean anything to you that even some democrats are concerned about the possible ramifications of Obamacare, huh? Guess you haven't been lied to enough because you are still spewing the Koolaid driven rhetoric. You didn't read any of the articles I posted from those sources, did you? You admitted you get your news from the mainstream media. Well, that makes sense. We all understand why you have no idea what you are supporting. You are simply parroting what you are being fed from the left wing main stream media. I watch those news programs, too, and I'm NOT hearing them singing the praises of Obamacare any longer. Wonder why the business owner mandate has been postponed? Tell us what your take is on that. I'd like to hear what YOU think the reasons are. Those of you who keep hanging on to the Hope and Change that you voted for, but not received remind me of children who find out that there is no Santa Claus. It's pitiful, really.

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