Bored

Dawsonville, GA

#11017 May 14, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
And poor Obama had another bad day yesterday at the press conference, looks like those "chickens" are "coming home to roost."
Reporter:" Thank you, Mr. President. I wanted to ask about the IRS and Benghazi. When did you first learn that the IRS was targeting conservative political groups? Do you feel that the IRS has betrayed the public's trust? And what do you think the repercussions for these actions should be?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, let me take the IRS situation first. I first learned about it from the same news reports that I think most people learned about this. I think it was on Friday.....
If, in fact, IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that had been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that's outrageous and there's no place for it. And they have to be held fully accountable, because the IRS as an independent agency requires absolute integrity, and people have to have confidence that they're applying it in a non-partisan way -- applying the laws in a non-partisan way."
"I first learned about it....I think...on Friday...." - Yeah, we're believing that one.
"If, in fact, IRS personnel engaged in...." - IF? IF?- excuse me, Mr President - are you not paying attention, the IRS has ADMITTED they targeted groups with what they considered "conservative" buzz words. Can't wait to see your definition of "fully accountable."
Oh, and by the way, if you hear any howls of protest coming from Georgia, there are these Leftist Loonies who can't seem to understand that the IRS is supposed to be impartial - or at least not be THIS illegally partisan. They are mental throwbacks to the days of Stalin and think it is perfectly fine for the party in power to use any dirty trick in the book to hurt political opponents. They can't see past their nose to see it is protection for all. They're still trying to argue that is was just some low level hacks in OH.

Obama on Benghazi- go ask the State Dept.
Obama on the IRS - I didn't know until friday, go ask the IRS.
Obama on the AP wiretapping - I didn't know, go ask the Justice Dept.
Obama on the White House blues- I didn't know, go ask Jay.
Clinton on Benghazi-What difference does it make.


Finger pointing just like chicken Butt.


BS Is Called

Irving, TX

#11018 May 14, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Charlie Sheen is a true winner.
Right Wingers should love this guy - a true American success story.
Normal Americans should love this guy because he takes care of his friends, family, and co-workers.
Charlie:
- gets great looking women
- tells his boss to eat sand and die
- pays the company's employees out of his own pocket when the employer refuses
- collects $25,000,000.00 personally
- immediately gets a new TV show making more millions
- and does whatever he wants while taking care of his family and friends.
What a guy
He's almost as lucky as these guts who also played the system well.
FEATURED ARTICLE
Severance Packages
Jack Welch, General Electric Co.(NYSE: GE), 2001:
- left GE with a "walkaway" package of about $417 million.
(Plus whatever his mistress was paid, and free use of corporate jets for life);
Lee Raymond, Exxon Mobil Corp.(NYSE: XOM), 2005
- received a $321 million retirement package;
Rick Scott, HCA,(NYSE: HCA)
- received $310 million when he resigned amid scandal related to HCA's Medicare Fraud investigation which settled for $1.7 Billion;
William McGuire, UnitedHealth Group Inc.(NYSE: UNH), 2006:
- left amid scandal in 2006 when the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission - received between $600,000,000.00 and $1,000,000,000.00, depending on who you believe. He still gets company cars, corporate aircraft and support staff for life;
Bob Nardelli, The Home Depot Inc.(NYSE: HD), 2007:
- received $223 million when he stepped down after the board asked him to more closely tie his compensation to shareholder gains
John Kanas, North Fork Bank, 2006: Kanas
- walked away with $214 million in total retirement and severance.
Fred Hassan, Merck & Co. Inc.(NYSE: MRK), 2009:
- got $189 million when he left.
Can you imagine there are people who claim that employees aren't cashing in on the highest corporate profits in modern history.
Here's proof they are.
What is your point?
Bored

Dawsonville, GA

#11019 May 14, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
All you had to do was talk about Republican Policy like an adult. That's it. There were no tricks.
You ran like a coward. Worse - you ran like a coward repeatedly.

And you're running the other way with the yellow streak down your back.

ChickenButt is not your name, ChickenS**t is.
Bored

Dawsonville, GA

#11020 May 14, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Charlie Sheen is a true winner.
Right Wingers should love this guy - a true American success story.
Normal Americans should love this guy because he takes care of his friends, family, and co-workers.
Charlie:
- gets great looking women
- tells his boss to eat sand and die
- pays the company's employees out of his own pocket when the employer refuses
- collects $25,000,000.00 personally
- immediately gets a new TV show making more millions
- and does whatever he wants while taking care of his family and friends.
What a guy
He's almost as lucky as these guts who also played the system well.
FEATURED ARTICLE
Severance Packages
Jack Welch, General Electric Co.(NYSE: GE), 2001:
- left GE with a "walkaway" package of about $417 million.
(Plus whatever his mistress was paid, and free use of corporate jets for life);
Lee Raymond, Exxon Mobil Corp.(NYSE: XOM), 2005
- received a $321 million retirement package;
Rick Scott, HCA,(NYSE: HCA)
- received $310 million when he resigned amid scandal related to HCA's Medicare Fraud investigation which settled for $1.7 Billion;
William McGuire, UnitedHealth Group Inc.(NYSE: UNH), 2006:
- left amid scandal in 2006 when the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission - received between $600,000,000.00 and $1,000,000,000.00, depending on who you believe. He still gets company cars, corporate aircraft and support staff for life;
Bob Nardelli, The Home Depot Inc.(NYSE: HD), 2007:
- received $223 million when he stepped down after the board asked him to more closely tie his compensation to shareholder gains
John Kanas, North Fork Bank, 2006: Kanas
- walked away with $214 million in total retirement and severance.
Fred Hassan, Merck & Co. Inc.(NYSE: MRK), 2009:
- got $189 million when he left.
Can you imagine there are people who claim that employees aren't cashing in on the highest corporate profits in modern history.
Here's proof they are.
Boring as usual.
Bored

Dawsonville, GA

#11021 May 14, 2013
BS Is Called wrote:
<quoted text>
What is your point?

He never has a point, always boring to the extreme. REason I dont read his post is because they ALWAYS are boring.
Bored

Dawsonville, GA

#11022 May 14, 2013
Gotta cut the grass, will leave the thread open for the idjits, when left alone, start devouring each other.

Since: Nov 08

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#11023 May 14, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>POT. KETTLE. BLACK. We've missed you Synergy.
Glad to be back!

Since: Nov 12

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#11024 May 14, 2013
13 May 2012 Press Conference (cont)

Reporter: " Thank you, Mr. President. I wanted to ask about the IRS and Benghazi.....And on Benghazi, newly public emails show that the White House and the State Department appear to have been more closely involved with the crafting of the talking points on the attack than first acknowledged. Do you think the White House misled the public about its role in shaping the talking points? And do you stand by your administration's assertions that the talking points were not purposely changed to downplay the prospects of terrorism?....

With respect to Benghazi,.... The day after it happened, I acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism....."

Oh, REALLY?

Transcript from 60 Minutes interview, 12 Sep 2012 with Steve Kroft

"Kroft: Mr. President, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the Libya attack.

Obama: Right."
======
So, which is it?

Since: Nov 12

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#11025 May 14, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Tea Party Aggie.
Why wouldn't you believe that? Do you have evidence of some kind to the contrary?
Oh, gee, I don't know. Maybe the last 4 1/2 years of spin and lies that have come from this White House.

Since: Nov 12

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#11026 May 14, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
They can't discuss policy because every time it's tried - it fails miserably.
Facts are just facts and they have to avoid the facts at all costs.
History has to be ignored because it totally devastates their argument.
Good luck getting them to debate using facts.
This is hilarious, thanks for the laugh.

Since: Nov 12

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#11027 May 14, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
When making a charge like this you really should provide a source for the information, then others can judge the credibility of both the source and you.
Take it up with the New York Times. We know how Right Wing they are.

Since: Nov 12

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#11028 May 14, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama on Benghazi- go ask the State Dept.
Obama on the IRS - I didn't know until friday, go ask the IRS.
Obama on the AP wiretapping - I didn't know, go ask the Justice Dept.
Obama on the White House blues- I didn't know, go ask Jay.
Clinton on Benghazi-What difference does it make.
Finger pointing just like chicken Butt.
Yeah, what a leader. How inspiring. Well, I take that back , he is very good at demonstrating passing the buck.
not free

Dahlonega, GA

#11029 May 14, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it's part of the problem, but do you know why it's done? Are you familiar with how business really works? Do YOU think unions may have an impact on things?
As I've posted MANY times before, a public corporation is responsible to it's shareholders, NOT it's employees, the country, or government. It's the real world.
Do some research on the fiduciary responsibility of public company officers and the Board of Directors, perhaps you'll understand better what I'm saying.
Short story as an example: If I'm CFO of a public company (which I was and had a situation quite similar to this example) and my company (a union shop) can make a widget for $10 a unit in my shop (the same cost as my competitor across town), or have it made for $7 per unit in another country (including shipping, etc. to get the product here), which am I going to choose? If I choose the $7 per unit cost, I can have a lower price (improving my market share) compared to my competitor, or if I have the same selling price (obviously) I can have a higher profit per unit than my competitor. If I choose the $10 per unit cost, my profits won't be as high, etc. Follow?
If I don't do what's best for the Company (the $7 cost), very likely I will be sued by shareholders and, oh yeah, they'll fire me and find someone else that will do it.
Do you own any stocks? Do you want the companies you (may) own to do as well as possible? Or do you want them to be beholden to their employees (which might also be stockholders)?
You're getting at the tip of the iceberg, but you have a bit to learn and/or understand...
Short sighted growth with long term consequences. It may be the way business works in the real world, so we need not bitch as American business in the rush to generate more profits for the few are destroying the working middle class and thus this country in the process. So they move manufacturing off shore to make more money and in the process this countries working class can't afford to buy goods as they did in the past. So now these wonderful American Corporation's are selling more product offshore than here and the cycle accelerates. OUR country is paying for the rich 2% of the population of OUR COUNTY to rule the world. We are getting exactly what we voted for and as long as we the people keep our eyes shut and still believe this load of crap about free enterprises right do as they please where they please China and other countries who actually protect their people and their jobs from corporate greed will continue to grown. They will have the funds like we used to have and gain in military power until we truly don't matter anymore. Rich people and corporations won't care, they still have other markets to develop and then destroy in the endless chase for more money for just a few. The free enterprise system is not free, its costing this country its future.

Since: Nov 08

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#11030 May 14, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Consider this:
Budget:
It was so much better when the Right Wing Wackos were in charge - why who needed a balanced budget when the RWW Gang could give us a $1.4 Trillion Dollar annual Deficit.
Peace/War:
Who needed America at peace when we could have a Right Wing Wacko start three illegal wars.
Economy:
Who would want an economy chugging along with reasonable growth like Clinton when the Right Wing Wacko Gang can provide the Great RWW Recession - that destroyed millions of jobs and requires Trillions in deficit spending to stop.
Yep: when Right Wing Wackos are in charge the economy falls apart, our troops fill body bags, and surpluses become deficits - who wouldn't want that ?
Well- for starters, anyone with an IQ higher than their freezer
How MANY TIMES are we going to have to go over Clinton? While Clinton was in the Oval office having fun with Monica, his REPUBLCIAN congress was busy at work making him look good. Good grief! PAY ATTENTION.
Go back 100 pages and see the link that explains the so called surplus.
You've never addressed the question about soldiers STILL DYING in the middle east. You have been asked NUMEROUS times.
If you care so much, why aren't you outraged about soldiers STILL dying over there, trillions added to the debt and the middle class STILL carrying the burden? Where are the JOBS?????
Instead of posting the same ZERO response, how about answering those questions???????? BTW, I don't believe I would even MENTION IQ if I were you.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#11031 May 14, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...Oh, and by the way, if you hear any howls of protest coming from Georgia, there are these Leftist Loonies who can't seem to understand that the IRS is supposed to be impartial - or at least not be THIS illegally partisan. They are mental throwbacks to the days of Stalin and think it is perfectly fine for the party in power to use any dirty trick in the book to hurt political opponents. They can't see past their nose to see it is protection for all. They're still trying to argue that is was just some low level hacks in OH.
Nope, just waiting for all the facts to come in before jumping on a bandwagon of outrage.

Report: IRS D.C. office investigated applications for non-profit status
by Jed Lewison
TUE MAY 14, 2013 AT 06:30 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/14/1208...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-...
Internal Revenue Service officials in Washington and at least two other offices were involved with investigating conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, making clear that the effort reached well beyond the branch in Cincinnati that was initially blamed, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.

IRS officials at the agency’s Washington headquarters sent queries to conservative groups asking about their donors and other aspects of their operations, while officials in the El Monte and Laguna Niguel offices in California sent similar questionnaires to tea-party-affiliated groups, the documents show.

IRS employees in Cincinnati told conservatives seeking the status of “social welfare” groups that a task force in Washington was overseeing their applications, according to interviews with the activists.
.....
In isolation, there doesn't seem anything particularly interesting about the IRS conducting a review of an application for tax-exempt non-profit status. After all, enforcement and compliance is part of their job. The question is whether it was linked to politically motivated targeting that took place in Cincinnati.

According to the groups that spoke to the Post, there was a link, but assuming they are right, it doesn't explain why the link was made. It's certainly possible that the explanation is that Washington was participating in Cincinnati's targeting. That would be disturbing, but it's also possible that when Washington worked to end what was happening in Cincinnati, they absorbed the investigative process. And, of course, it's also possible that the groups are wrong to make the link.

Even if Washington and Cincinnati were in cahoots, however, it wouldn't a smoking gun implicating the president. As The Post notes, the administration is forbidden by law from getting involved in IRS tax investigations and the agency only has two political appointments. The director during the time of the targeting was a Bush appointee.

...hopefully Congressional investigators will remember the reason the IRS is involved in investigating these groups in the first place is that under current law, the IRS—not the Federal Elections Commission—is responsible for regulating these groups. There's no justification for targeting them on the basis of political affiliation, but on the other hand, it's not like the IRS should abdicate its responsibility to enforce the law....
==========
When the IRS targeted liberals
Under George W. Bush, it went after the NAACP, Greenpeace and even a liberal church
BY ALEX SEITZ-WALD
TUESDAY, MAY 14, 2013 07:45 AM EDT
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_...

Since: Nov 08

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#11032 May 14, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Aren't Right Winger embarrassed to attack us normal folks for not correcting the RWWs' disasters fast enough.
Don't they understand how childish and silly that is.
They're like psychopathic children who keep burning down the family home - them complain that Daddy doesn't rebuild it fast enough.
Having destroyed the American economy, empowered the rich and powerful and corporations to buy elections, started three illegal and unfunded wars - like the little psychopath who keeps burning down the house, they're frustrated the grown ups don't rebuild it fast enough.
They're like my kids, who when they left their skateboards in the rain and the wheels rusted - demanded to knew why new skateboards weren't immediately available. The fact they had to earn new skateboards was proof to them they were "oppressed" by the grown ups in their lives.
A part of me wants to let them have their way and we'll become like other countries where Right Wing Wackos rule - Haiti, Somalia, Syria, and Lebanon are good examples.
After all the Right Wing Wackos die off- as they inevitable will - Darwinian economics at work - maybe then we can let the Grown Ups take charge again.
Did NOT address one question nor point. Your so called response has no substance. You didn't answer because you can't. You wouldn't be lock step supporting your liberal socialist commie party. You have NO credibility. Don't even bother with your worn out, ineffective, low information proving broken recored posts. UGH.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#11033 May 14, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
Aggie23 wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
I'm stunned, stunned I tell you, that a polling company that is described as "Democrat-leaning" and that only conducts polls for Democratic campaigns and "progressive" organizations in its private client work finds that Hillary is trusted more than Republicans. How unpredictable.
When making a charge like this you really should provide a source for the information, then others can judge the credibility of both the source and you.

Oh my responded:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
When making a charge like this you really should provide a source for the information, then others can judge the credibility of both the source and you.

Aggie23 quipped:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Take it up with the New York Times. We know how Right Wing they are.
No, I'm taking it up with YOU, supply the source for the basis of YOUR charge so that others might judge the context of YOUR assessment.

Since: Nov 12

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#11034 May 14, 2013
13 May 2013 - What's this: Tom Brokaw and Chuck Todd are slamming the Obama WH for "inexplicable" and "mind boggling" decisions in regard to their attempted spin on Benghazi and then the initial treatment of the IRS growing scandal. Todd: "I think this (IRS) has more legs than Benghazi." But, but, but Tom Brokaw and Chuck Todd are "their" guys, is it too late to call them Right Wing Wackos - don't strain your yourselves on this one - the answer is Yes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch ?

v=8che0wGIM08http://www.youtub e.com/watch?v=i8mNXnUs-2g

Since: Nov 08

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#11035 May 14, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
And poor Obama had another bad day yesterday at the press conference, looks like those "chickens" are "coming home to roost."
Reporter:" Thank you, Mr. President. I wanted to ask about the IRS and Benghazi. When did you first learn that the IRS was targeting conservative political groups? Do you feel that the IRS has betrayed the public's trust? And what do you think the repercussions for these actions should be?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, let me take the IRS situation first. I first learned about it from the same news reports that I think most people learned about this. I think it was on Friday.....
If, in fact, IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that had been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that's outrageous and there's no place for it. And they have to be held fully accountable, because the IRS as an independent agency requires absolute integrity, and people have to have confidence that they're applying it in a non-partisan way -- applying the laws in a non-partisan way."
"I first learned about it....I think...on Friday...." - Yeah, we're believing that one.
"If, in fact, IRS personnel engaged in...." - IF? IF?- excuse me, Mr President - are you not paying attention, the IRS has ADMITTED they targeted groups with what they considered "conservative" buzz words. Can't wait to see your definition of "fully accountable."
Oh, and by the way, if you hear any howls of protest coming from Georgia, there are these Leftist Loonies who can't seem to understand that the IRS is supposed to be impartial - or at least not be THIS illegally partisan. They are mental throwbacks to the days of Stalin and think it is perfectly fine for the party in power to use any dirty trick in the book to hurt political opponents. They can't see past their nose to see it is protection for all. They're still trying to argue that is was just some low level hacks in OH.
+1 Great post. He is using his worn out 'I didn't know anything about it' defense. He has such a corrupt administration. The libs think it's perfectly acceptable. Can you imagine if a conservative had brushed over all that Obama has? They act so arrogant while the rest of us are laughing at them. Obama learned about the IRS situation on Friday and really didn't have much to say about it until Monday. I guess all his minion spinmasters were on vacation or something. Obama probably mulled over whom to blame while on the golf course over the weekend. Wonder why he didn't blame Bush?

Since: Nov 12

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#11036 May 14, 2013
Okay, screwed up two of the links:

Brokaw and Todd on MSNBC yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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