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ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6872 Apr 12, 2013
Bored wrote:
President Obama contributed the most to the debt, with cumulative deficits totaling $5.073 trillion in just four years. Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package, which added $787 billion by cutting taxes, extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects. The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years. Obama's budget included increased defense spending to around $800 billion a year. Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis.
Both Presidents Bush and Obama had to contend with higher mandatory mandatory spending for Social Security and Medicare. Obama also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. However, these savings don't show up until the later years. But now the cost of the Affordable Act has doubled in cost, wiping out any savings projected in later years.
Yep, Obama and his economists are ruining this country.
As for how Bush created his deficit, I'll let the libtards deal with that. I expect they will come up with some screwball reason. But I will give a couple of hints, 9-11 and Katrina.
Thank you, Bored for attempting to answer the question.
Bored wrote:
President Obama contributed the most to the debt, with cumulative deficits totaling $5.073 trillion in just four years.
However - that isn't addressing the question.
Bored wrote:
Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package, which added $787 billion
Why was an Economic Stimulus package needed? Wasn't he handed a great economy after 8-years of Republican Policy? Can we blame Obama for destroying the economy, or did this happen before he got into office?
Bored wrote:
extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects.
Why in the WORLD would extened unemployment benefits be needed as soon as he took office? Didn't 8 years of Republican Policy hand over a pristine unemployment situation to Obama right when he entered office?
Bored wrote:
The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years.
Obama extended the BUSH tax cuts. It wasn't something he wanted to do in principle, it was something that he had to do in reality because of the economic situation. Unfortunately after 8 years of Republican Policy, the Economy of the United States of America was in shambles.
Bored wrote:
Obama's budget included increased defense spending to around $800 billion a year.
He didn't commit the United States of America to two unfunded wars. That money was already being spent, it just wasn't on paper. It was unfunded.
Bored wrote:
Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis.
This is a HUGE cause of deficit numbers. Should we blame the 2008 financial crisis on Obama? If not, which president SHOULD we attribute that portion of the deficit to, and which party did he belong to?
Bored wrote:
Obama also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. However, these savings don't show up until the later years. But now the cost of the Affordable Act has doubled in cost, wiping out any savings projected in later years.
That's future money, not money already spent, and part of a different conversation.

If you dissect the deficit and acknowledge that a MAJOR FINANCIAL COLLAPSE and TWO UNFUNDED WARS all happened during the previous administrations watch - Well then, the numbers that Republican propagandists keep throwing out there that blame the majority of the deficit on Obama start to look like clear-cut lies.

We can now actually STOP blaming the deficit on Obama and correctly blame the majority of the existing deficit on George W. Bush. We've established something. That's good.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6873 Apr 12, 2013
domino wrote:
Factchicken, chicken crap or whoever only wants to present questions but never answer any or give facts.
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but did you answer even ONE basic question?

Even one as simple as "Did the economy collapse during George Bush's presidency"? No. You did not.

That wasn't even a good job at deflection and avoidance.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6874 Apr 12, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
Oh, this is rich. The state of New York - no hot bed of conservatism there - is advertising for businesses to move there by touting their LOWER TAXES. Their advertisements trumpet that they have "lowered business taxes" in order to "ENCOURAGE JOB CREATION" and have created tax free zones and have tax incentive programs in order to encourage business.
Please explain that those of you who refuse to acknowledge how taxes can either encourage growth or stifle it.
This is a DRAMATIC change of subject from where we currently are.

You're a smart person. Can you acknowledge that Bush tanked the economy before he left office, that there was rampant job losses during his last year, and that he raised the deficit significantly?

Yes or no? Did those things happen?
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6875 Apr 12, 2013
Man these Republicans are dancing around the facts laying right there in front of them.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/026i8TM10...

Avoidance, deflection, name-calling, mis-direction, anything to keep from acknowledging simple basic truths.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6876 Apr 12, 2013
It should probably be noted that at this stage all Republican supporters appear to have fled from Topix.

Apparently acknowledging reality is kinda scary and traumatic for Republicans.
Bored

Jefferson, GA

#6877 Apr 12, 2013
""This is a DRAMATIC change of subject from where we currently are.

You're a smart person. Can you acknowledge that Bush tanked the economy before he left office, that there was rampant job losses during his last year, and that he raised the deficit significantly?""

No and NO.

""Yes or no? Did those things happen?""

No.
If you can prove otherwise do so with something other than by flapping your jaw.

However, Bush's average unemployment while in office was 5.45% while Obama's average in his 4 years is 8.875%.

Go ahead, blame Bush for Obama's screwups but we know better.

LMAO @ at a libtard who is confused and don't know diddly.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#6878 Apr 12, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
It should probably be noted that at this stage all Republican supporters appear to have fled from Topix.
Apparently acknowledging reality is kinda scary and traumatic for Republicans.
Anybody on here want to get impregnated tonite???? All left wingers on here, know you dont have jobs to go to. Lets have some govt supported babies and listen to npr while we fill women up with man gravy and smear ben and jerrys ice cream on each others nipples
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6879 Apr 12, 2013
Ah!

Finally a prototypical Republican supporter has made an appearance.

This one could be on the front cover of "The North American Field Guide to Right-Wing Whackos".*

*(N.Gingrich Publishing, c 2012)
Bored

Jefferson, GA

#6880 Apr 12, 2013
""Thank you, Bored for attempting to answer the question.

Bored wrote:
President Obama contributed the most to the debt, with cumulative deficits totaling $5.073 trillion in just four years.

However - that isn't addressing the question.""

Since you don't have a question worthy of comment, my answer will do for me.

"Bored wrote:
Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package, which added $787 billion

Why was an Economic Stimulus package needed?""
Because he scared the crap out of business and business pratically shut down when he came into office.

"Wasn't he handed a great economy after 8-years of Republican Policy?"
Yes he was, but like all socialists he screwed it up.

"Can we blame Obama for destroying the economy,"
Yes, we can, and we do.

"or did this happen before he got into office?"
No, he screwed it up all by himself.

"Bored wrote:
extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects.

Why in the WORLD would extened unemployment benefits be needed as soon as he took office?"
Was not needed but was his choice. A bad choice.


"Didn't 8 years of Republican Policy hand over a pristine unemployment situation to Obama right when he entered office?"

Yes.

"Bored wrote:
The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years.

Obama extended the BUSH tax cuts. It wasn't something he wanted to do in principle, it was something that he had to do in reality because of the economic situation. Unfortunately after 8 years of Republican Policy, the Economy of the United States of America was in shambles.""

His choice again, name a libtard who don't like big spending.

"Bored wrote:
Obama's budget included increased defense spending to around $800 billion a year.

He didn't commit the United States of America to two unfunded wars. That money was already being spent, it just wasn't on paper. It was unfunded."

Wrong again swammi.

"Bored wrote:
Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis.

This is a HUGE cause of deficit numbers. Should we blame the 2008 financial crisis on Obama?

NO, but he sure added to it.

"If not, which president SHOULD we attribute that portion of the deficit to, and which party did he belong to?"

Belonged to Bush, and I did attribute it to him. I posted the deficit numbers, sorry your brain is not capable of understanding the numbers.

"Bored wrote:
Obama also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. However, these savings don't show up until the later years. But now the cost of the Affordable Act has doubled in cost, wiping out any savings projected in later years.

That's future money, not money already spent, and part of a different conversation."

Wrong again swammi. Money is flying out the window as we speak and no one is even receiving the benefits yet.
And money spent is always a part of the conversation. Just because you don't like it, too bad.

"If you dissect the deficit and acknowledge that a MAJOR FINANCIAL COLLAPSE and TWO UNFUNDED WARS all happened during the previous administrations watch - Well then, the numbers that Republican propagandists keep throwing out there that blame the majority of the deficit on Obama start to look like clear-cut lies."

Dollar numbers don't lie, Obamas supporters do.

"We can now actually STOP blaming the deficit on Obama and correctly blame the majority of the existing deficit on George W. Bush. We've established something. That's good."

Only in a libtards mind is it good.

Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#6881 Apr 12, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
Ah!
Finally a prototypical Republican supporter has made an appearance.
This one could be on the front cover of "The North American Field Guide to Right-Wing Whackos".*
*(N.Gingrich Publishing, c 2012)
I aint no republican. I meant it. I been drinkin root beer all day!! I voted for obama and proud of it.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6882 Apr 12, 2013
Bored wrote:
""Thank you, Bored for attempting to answer the question.
Bored wrote:
President Obama contributed the most to the debt, with cumulative deficits totaling $5.073 trillion in just four years.
However - that isn't addressing the question.""
Since you don't have a question worthy of comment, my answer will do for me.
"Bored wrote:
Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package, which added $787 billion
Why was an Economic Stimulus package needed?""
Because he scared the crap out of business and business pratically shut down when he came into office.
"Wasn't he handed a great economy after 8-years of Republican Policy?"
Yes he was, but like all socialists he screwed it up.
"Can we blame Obama for destroying the economy,"
Yes, we can, and we do.
"or did this happen before he got into office?"
No, he screwed it up all by himself.
"Bored wrote:
extending unemployment benefits, and funding job-creating public works projects.
Why in the WORLD would extened unemployment benefits be needed as soon as he took office?"
Was not needed but was his choice. A bad choice.
"Didn't 8 years of Republican Policy hand over a pristine unemployment situation to Obama right when he entered office?"
Yes.
"Bored wrote:
The Obama tax cuts added $858 billion to the debt over two years.
Obama extended the BUSH tax cuts. It wasn't something he wanted to do in principle, it was something that he had to do in reality because of the economic situation. Unfortunately after 8 years of Republican Policy, the Economy of the United States of America was in shambles.""
His choice again, name a libtard who don't like big spending.
"Bored wrote:
Obama's budget included increased defense spending to around $800 billion a year.
He didn't commit the United States of America to two unfunded wars. That money was already being spent, it just wasn't on paper. It was unfunded."
Wrong again swammi.
"Bored wrote:
Federal income was down, thanks to lower tax receipts from the 2008 financial crisis.
This is a HUGE cause of deficit numbers. Should we blame the 2008 financial crisis on Obama?
NO, but he sure added to it.
"If not, which president SHOULD we attribute that portion of the deficit to, and which party did he belong to?"
Belonged to Bush, and I did attribute it to him. I posted the deficit numbers, sorry your brain is not capable of understanding the numbers.
"Bored wrote:
Obama also sponsored the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was designed to reduce the debt by $143 billion over 10 years. However, these savings don't show up until the later years. But now the cost of the Affordable Act has doubled in cost, wiping out any savings projected in later years.
That's future money, not money already spent, and part of a different conversation."
Wrong again swammi. Money is flying out the window as we speak and no one is even receiving the benefits yet.
And money spent is always a part of the conversation. Just because you don't like it, too bad.
"If you dissect the deficit and acknowledge that a MAJOR FINANCIAL COLLAPSE and TWO UNFUNDED WARS all happened during the previous administrations watch - Well then, the numbers that Republican propagandists keep throwing out there that blame the majority of the deficit on Obama start to look like clear-cut lies."
Dollar numbers don't lie, Obamas supporters do.
"We can now actually STOP blaming the deficit on Obama and correctly blame the majority of the existing deficit on George W. Bush. We've established something. That's good."
Only in a libtards mind is it good.
You've unequivocally proven my point.
domino

Manchester, GA

#6883 Apr 12, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but did you answer even ONE basic question?
Even one as simple as "Did the economy collapse during George Bush's presidency"? No. You did not.
That wasn't even a good job at deflection and avoidance.
Pardon me but you havent ask anything that hasnt been beat to death previously. Just read back. Its ongoing & has been answered many times. The economy wasnt nearly as bad under Bush as it is under Obama and unemloyment is much higher as is welfare.
And you have beat what Obama "inherited" to death. Hes in his 5th year. Time for him to take responsibility.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6884 Apr 12, 2013
Thank you, Bored. You've unequivocally proven my point. I'm sure your fellow right-wingers will appreciate that.

By the way: Should anybody EVER behave as if they might try to have an intelligent conversation with you, please direct them to post 6880 before they spend too much time under the mistaken impression that you're worth the effort.

Post 6880. Absolute definitive proof.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6885 Apr 12, 2013
domino wrote:
<quoted text>
The economy wasnt nearly as bad under Bush as it is under Obama
Oh. I see. 2008 doesn't exist in your world. How interesting.

Post 6883. Please refer people to the fact that you said this. They will find it helpful.
domino

Manchester, GA

#6886 Apr 12, 2013
I am certain Republicans have not fled. Most are probably tired and gone to bed because they had to get up early to go to their jobs this morning, unlike you Libtards. And had you been on this site as long as others, you would know that it slows down a good bit on weekends.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#6887 Apr 12, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
Thank you, Bored. You've unequivocally proven my point. I'm sure your fellow right-wingers will appreciate that.
By the way: Should anybody EVER behave as if they might try to have an intelligent conversation with you, please direct them to post 6880 before they spend too much time under the mistaken impression that you're worth the effort.
Post 6880. Absolute definitive proof.
Yall heard the new song by young boonie and epic gang about tadpoles in your butt? Its about dude on dude action and puttin tadpoles in each other. Im proud of them for being inner city youth and singing about anal and their struggles. We need to get them a grant from the govt and encourage young boonie to express his love of implanting his tadpoles in other dudes butts
Farrell Landon Democrat

Washington, DC

#6888 Apr 12, 2013
I really think the republicans just dont realize that if we can just print more money and give it to our poor people then nobodys got to be poor anymore. It just be paper cant we print it and make everybody feel better and not be bein poor nomore
Farrell Landon Democrat

Washington, DC

#6889 Apr 12, 2013
My god i just pooted so hard i think i might have dislocateded my right eye. Can u call ken nugent my laywer can u say dis a bill a tee
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#6890 Apr 12, 2013
Farrell Landon wrote:
<quoted text>
Yall heard the new song by young boonie and epic gang about tadpoles in your butt? Its about dude on dude action and puttin tadpoles in each other. Im proud of them for being inner city youth and singing about anal and their struggles. We need to get them a grant from the govt and encourage young boonie to express his love of implanting his tadpoles in other dudes butts
It's entirely possible that you've been probed by aliens one time too many. I'm jus' sayin'. It's possible.
Oh my

Young Harris, GA

#6891 Apr 13, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
I couldn't care less what tax percentage anyone pays as long as they are within the law. But the hypocrisy of the Left is astounding.
"Obama uses his own tax return to show what is wrong with the system." - except that I note he and Michelle claimed over $258,000 is deductions - if they believe they should pay more in taxes, there was their opportunity - they should have left deductions blank. But, nope - not them. That goes for anyone on the Left - if you believe the govt needs more money, feel free to send them a check.
Too funny, as if the PIOUS would have let that slip by.

Simple fact, Obama is among the wealthy and he has consistently advocated for raising the taxes of the wealthy.

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