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grow up wrote:
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You are a real nut case. ALL Americans can pay the same rate and can use loopholes like the capital gains rate. Are you kidding, or are you just real stupid?? How many working Americans just barely able to make ends meet have stocks, investment properties and run corporations. Itís a SMALL percentage of the population that can take ADVANTAGE of the tax loopholes like capital gains built for the rich. Most really wealthy people only pay tax on capital gains, while the majority of Americans use the tax table. They ARE doing things legally and within the rules, rules THEY had the power to create with huge "donations" to politicians. We only have the power of the vote, THEY have the power to buy elections and influence. We the people are losing power over government while the rich 5% are gaining more power EVERY DAY, thanks to politicians in Washington and the system they have built.
"You are a real nut case." You are, of course, entitled to your opinion...

"ALL Americans can pay the same rate and can use loopholes like the capital gains rate."

My point EXACTLY. Some of your brethren don't seem to comprehend that fact. BTW, why is the capital gains rate considered (by you) to be a loophole? Do you understand the rationale for why capital gains are taxed differently than "ordinary" income.

"How many working Americans just barely able to make ends meet have stocks, investment properties and run corporations."

No idea, but you could research it and let us know. A lot of people doing OK (making ends meet) don't have investment properties or run corporations. A LOT of people have a 401k or 403b (or other retirement plan) which,(directly or indirectly) means they own stock.

"Itís a SMALL percentage of the population that can take ADVANTAGE of the tax loopholes like capital gains built for the rich."

But you just (correctly) said it's available to all of us. Sounds like wealth envy rearing it's head again...You're against people taking "advantage" of the law? You're probably against a football team having too many fast players, a hoops team having too many tall players or a baseball team having too many guys throwing 95+mph fastballs, too, huh?

"Most really wealthy people only pay tax on capital gains, while the majority of Americans use the tax table."

Well, I guess you'd have to define "really wealthy" (how of THEM are out there?) before I prove your statement wrong. For the most part, salaries, wages and short term income items like dividends and interest income are taxed using the tax tables, capital gains related items are afforded the 15% rate. If you're saying all someone does is play in the stock market and doesn't have a salary from a job, you're correct.

You will get no disagreement from me about your government points.

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This post shows the true ignorance of Liberals.
They believe income and capital gains are 2 different taxes in America.
Capital gains are taxed by 2 different methods, short and long term.
Both are taxed at different rates and both are considered income, unless there is a loss.
So Chickenbutt would have capital gains taxed twice, once as a gain and again as income.
This is why this country is screwed up, liberal voters who don't have a clue.
And as we all know, IO is a stranded hyperbole.
+1 well stated.
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I have thought logically thought through it. So reread my post, as I didn't leave any hazy area.
I do read your post and find all you do is harp on rich Republicans but never mention rich Democrats. All you want to do is Socialize America into at best, a Great Britain, or at worse Cuba. For all I know you may be trying to model this country into your Mother Country Russia. You very well may be a paid professional that works for the Communist Party or any Socialist organization trying to advance their causes. You sound like a professional propagandist knowing that if you say it often enough and loud enough over and over, a lie or deception becomes the truth.
BTW where is the facts that the United Healthcare Ceo made over a billion dollars? Seems like you conveniently left that out.
This is why you are a complete waste of time.

You go off on spout big general emotional statements instead of pinpointing any facts at all. You through out poorly formed insults and insinuations. Then you incorrectly try to peg me as the guy who said United Health Care CEO made a billion bucks.(of course you could look up his compensation and stock options yourself in a matter of mere moments).

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Don't you wish you had a nickel for every time you've TRIED to explain that to the envy and hated filled libs? You OBVIOUSLY know what you are posting about, but they haven't been programmed to comprehend anything but the hate speech from Obama.
Hence, the "clueless and uneducated" comments (because they don't know, or, perhaps, don't care to know.

What's really funny is the people that think they know what they're talking about, or those that make a party line claim ("the rich don't pay their fair share of taxes"), when they don't know diddly about what they're saying or what it means. If you don't know what you're talking about, shut the heck up, you look like less of a fool...

I know it's probably a waste of time, but it's raining out (no golf) and I have some free time before we go see a movie...

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ChicknButt wrote:
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I would even be willing to take a guess that this very thing is what funded your home, your Corvette, and your early retirement.
Taking to responding to your own posts? You were better off under your other names.

Oh, and you'd be wrong...Clueless and wrong.

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ChicknButt wrote:
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This is why you are a complete waste of time.
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Then why respond?

Ignore him and he'll go away (from you, at least). It works, as you well know...

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Bigdave1 wrote:
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I have thought logically thought through it. So reread my post, as I didn't leave any hazy area.
I do read your post and find all you do is harp on rich Republicans but never mention rich Democrats. All you want to do is Socialize America into at best, a Great Britain, or at worse Cuba. For all I know you may be trying to model this country into your Mother Country Russia. You very well may be a paid professional that works for the Communist Party or any Socialist organization trying to advance their causes. You sound like a professional propagandist knowing that if you say it often enough and loud enough over and over, a lie or deception becomes the truth.
BTW where is the facts that the United Healthcare Ceo made over a billion dollars? Seems like you conveniently left that out.
Actually Chicken Butt, I thought that you were Informed Opinion as you two sound so much alike and I do get you two mixed up.
I asked you top tell me where you got the information on g the United Healthcare Ceo and that was Informed Opinions post. Sorry about that. At least I will admit it when I have made a mistake.
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Bigdave1 wrote:
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Your not posting from jail are you? I thought the Secret Service would have already picked you up.
You wish! I am posting from my nice apartment and will continue to battle you republicans to the end. Sorry for the typo, I meant to say that a good size bomb would have been more impressionable for bush. Imagine bush azz kissers, bomb would have gone off and the only remains of this monster were a few pieces of his evil azz scrapped off of a stop sign with a pocket knife 5 miles away. At his funeral was an open casket with these pieces and a sign in front saying " the worst azzhole ever gone for good".

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"which party care more about the average American" - Oh, I just LOVE this. The Democrats have ridden this train for decades and look at the results. Let's look at Social Security - it was set up as a SUPPLEMENTAL income program for people in retirement. But somehow over the decades too many people came to the expectation that it was to take care of them completely when they quit working and they made no other provisions for their years when they would not be working.
The War on Poverty - sounds great on paper, let's help the poor, let's help those poor women and children who have lost their husband/father. But that means a husband/father can't be in the picture. Result: Black illegitimacy rate was around 22% and the overall illegitimacy rate in the US was less than 8%. Today, the Black illegitimacy rate is 70% and the overall rate is 33%. After 4 decades and $15 TRILLION dollars - the poverty rate is the same now as it was then. I'd say we lost that war.
But it sounds so good to say let's help these poor people and Democrats get to pat themselves on the back for being the better people and then ignore what happens to those people. Democrat programs enslave people to the welfare system - "I can't take that job, I'll lose my food stamps, or housing supplement or Medicaid" - just fill in the blank. So they take the short term advantage and ignore the fact that that job could be a stepping stone to a better job and then a better job that will bring them out of poverty. The welfare reform that Clinton now takes credit for (after being dragged to it by a Republican congress) worked - and Obama has tanked it. The voucher program for DC's poorest children (mostly black) that allowed them to get out of the hell holes that DC calls public schools was canceled by Obama and only reinstated by a Republican push - where is Democrat "care for the children" in that - oops, I forgot - Democrat's first loyalty is to the teachers' unions, children come a far second in the education debate.
It is so easy to say "I care more" and then throw someone else's money at a problem and then don't look at the results. You get the "high road" of being "compassionate." Except EVERY study has shown that when it comes to their own pocketbook - Republicans donate far more to charity than Democrats do - every time. Those polls just illustrate the successful partnership between Democrats and the left leaning media in their spin. Never forget what was done to Gingrich when he became Speaker - what was Newsweek's cover illustration - "The Gingrich that stole Christmas" - no bias there - right.
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The left is quite good at Straw Man arguments...
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And now on a lighter note, all we have now to put a pain in our azz temporarily are these republicans on this forum and some news channels. They are gone for another 4 years and bush will never abuse our country again! Obama along with we non-republicans will try and recoup much of what they took away from us. TAX TAX TAX republicans and provide more assistance to the poor and middle-class.

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ChicknButt wrote:
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I can't answer all of this at the moment due to time constraints. Contrary to popular Republican opinion I'm running a multi-million dollar small business at the moment, not sitting on my sofa collecting government money.
But you do for once ask some good questions. I'll make a point of answering them in detail when I'm not at work.
Of course Synergy will just reply to any detailed discussion with "blah, blah, blah- so many words. Didn't read them. Obama sucks! Freedom destroying socialist! Just WAIT AND you'll see"
Of course, YOU answer with YOU are running a MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR SMALL BUSINESS. Yeah, me, too. Oh, wait! You are RUNNING it. You don't OWN it, right?
Your business must be WASTE DISPOSAL. You have enough in your own head to support a small country.:)

And, yes. Your last paragraph describes exactly how I feel about Obama. You should, too. Actually, the only posts I don't read are IO's. It's just garbage that he's posted over and over. Total waste. I read yours.

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Bill in Dville wrote:
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Hence, the "clueless and uneducated" comments (because they don't know, or, perhaps, don't care to know.
What's really funny is the people that think they know what they're talking about, or those that make a party line claim ("the rich don't pay their fair share of taxes"), when they don't know diddly about what they're saying or what it means. If you don't know what you're talking about, shut the heck up, you look like less of a fool...
I know it's probably a waste of time, but it's raining out (no golf) and I have some free time before we go see a movie...
For some reason, I guess the wealthy democrats pay their fair share. It's just the rich republicans who don't. Doesn't that crack you up?????

Golf? Ohhhhh, nooooooo. You sound like an EVIL RICH PERSON. Oh, wait! Obama LOVES golf and we ALL know he's poor. He is all for the poor. So, golf is okay..... for now.

Enjoy your movie. Perfect day for it.
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You stupid republicans still can't get over romney losing. Well thanks to independents who now make up about 33% of registered voters WE defeated YOU. We rainned on tour party and WE will decide who gets into the Whitehouse. WE are America's true heros, not returning veterens. WE will be there at every election and WE will not be manipulated by the greedy rich like YOU are and want US to follow along! So GET over it and quit your whinning and complaining. YOU lost but YOU have always been losers who worship the wealthy and want all of us who have'nt lost control of our minds like YOU to support YOUR party.
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columbus native wrote:
You stupid republicans still can't get over romney losing. Well thanks to independents who now make up about 33% of registered voters WE defeated YOU. We rainned on tour party and WE will decide who gets into the Whitehouse. WE are America's true heros, not returning veterens. WE will be there at every election and WE will not be manipulated by the greedy rich like YOU are and want US to follow along! So GET over it and quit your whinning and complaining. YOU lost but YOU have always been losers who worship the wealthy and want all of us who have'nt lost control of our minds like YOU to support YOUR party.

You voted for Obama, you own him.

Are you smarter than a 5th grader?

How many poor folks are going to be able to complete this form?

"Applying for benefits under President Barack Obama's health care overhaul could be as daunting as doing your taxes.

The government's draft application runs 15 pages for a three-person family. An outline of the online version has 21 steps, some with additional questions.

Seven months before the Oct. 1 start of enrollment season for millions of uninsured Americans, the idea that getting health insurance could be as easy as shopping online at Amazon or Travelocity is starting to look like wishful thinking.

At least three major federal agencies, including the IRS, will scrutinize your application. Checking your identity, income and citizenship is supposed to happen in real time, if you apply online.

That's just the first part of the process, which lets you know if you qualify for financial help. The government asks to see what you're making because Obama's Affordable Care Act is means-tested, with lower-income people getting the most generous help to pay premiums.

Once you're finished with the money part, actually picking a health plan will require additional steps, plus a basic understanding of insurance jargon.

And it's a mandate, not a suggestion."

http://www.turnto23.com/lifestyle/health/appl...
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But Obama will be taking your money up front from payroll deductions whether you fill out the form or not.
What a great President he is!

I'm looking forward to the 2014 and 2016 elections.
Every liberal Demo will be claiming to be conservative to get re-elected.
Any half way decent REP candidates should be able to stomp any old liberal in a race after folks get a good whiff of how Obama is going to put them in the poor house.
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Apr 4, 2013
 
Spread the propaganda! Scare people! Republicans best chance of getting elected again ever. There are plenty of articals out there for the righties to peddle as artillary towards their enemy...the working class, poor and seniors.

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Bored wrote:
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You voted for Obama, you own him.
Are you smarter than a 5th grader?
How many poor folks are going to be able to complete this form?
"Applying for benefits under President Barack Obama's health care overhaul could be as daunting as doing your taxes.
The government's draft application runs 15 pages for a three-person family. An outline of the online version has 21 steps, some with additional questions.
Seven months before the Oct. 1 start of enrollment season for millions of uninsured Americans, the idea that getting health insurance could be as easy as shopping online at Amazon or Travelocity is starting to look like wishful thinking.
At least three major federal agencies, including the IRS, will scrutinize your application. Checking your identity, income and citizenship is supposed to happen in real time, if you apply online.
That's just the first part of the process, which lets you know if you qualify for financial help. The government asks to see what you're making because Obama's Affordable Care Act is means-tested, with lower-income people getting the most generous help to pay premiums.
Once you're finished with the money part, actually picking a health plan will require additional steps, plus a basic understanding of insurance jargon.
And it's a mandate, not a suggestion."
http://www.turnto23.com/lifestyle/health/appl...
Columbus Native is an ignorant troll who posted a few days ago that he was leaving because, as he stated, we aren't intelligent enough for him. He apparently got his tail handed to him and now he's back. His posts are infantile, as you can see.

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Doo wrote:
Spread the propaganda! Scare people! Republicans best chance of getting elected again ever. There are plenty of articals out there for the righties to peddle as artillary towards their enemy...the working class, poor and seniors.
But, what if he's right? What then?
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columbus native wrote:
You stupid republicans still can't get over romney losing. Well thanks to independents who now make up about 33% of registered voters WE defeated YOU. We rainned on tour party and WE will decide who gets into the Whitehouse. WE are America's true heros, not returning veterens. WE will be there at every election and WE will not be manipulated by the greedy rich like YOU are and want US to follow along! So GET over it and quit your whinning and complaining. YOU lost but YOU have always been losers who worship the wealthy and want all of us who have'nt lost control of our minds like YOU to support YOUR party.
Thank YOU for that incredibly dumb and high schoolish post. YOU are America's true heroes?(I gotta stop for a few seconds while I quit laughing).

That group YOU belong to...does it also include dead people and people who vote multiple times? Bet it does.

We are well over Romney losing the election. What we cannot accept is not having a President. YOU know, someone who is actually a leader. That goofy guy who is living in the Whitehouse has gone through his 4 year training program and still cannot function as the leader this country so desperately needs.
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Doo wrote:
Spread the propaganda! Scare people! Republicans best chance of getting elected again ever. There are plenty of articals out there for the righties to peddle as artillary towards their enemy...the working class, poor and seniors.
Not propaganda, known fact.
I expect you are going to need a mentor to help fill out that form if you want Obamacare.

You should follow your own advice and look into the "Affordable Health Act." Or are you afraid of being proved wrong?

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