A Wal-Mart in Manistee might return d...

A Wal-Mart in Manistee might return dollars to Manistee now...

There are 112 comments on the Ludington Daily News story from Jan 11, 2007, titled A Wal-Mart in Manistee might return dollars to Manistee now.... In it, Ludington Daily News reports that:

A Wal-Mart opening in Manistee might have positives for the county, but it could mean a loss of revenue for retail stores in Mason County, according to a report released by large-retail expert Rodney Runyan for ...

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tom

Hartland, MI

#1 Jan 12, 2007
wal-marts gay
DAR

Traverse City, MI

#2 Feb 1, 2007
We should have a Wal-Mart here, we go to Ludington every week
M_Baker

Allendale, MI

#3 Feb 6, 2007
So when you figure in the cost of gas driving 40 miles round trip, at say $2.25 a gallon, how much are you really saving by doing that?
James

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Feb 11, 2007
Many residents in Manistee do most of their shopping in Ludington. My opinion is that items are less expensive there. Let's do ourselves a favor, help stop pollution with our gas-burning vehicles. Pollution being a whole seperate issue for our area, I must say, without getting into politics, Wal-mart is a very good idea.
Melissa

Manistee, MI

#5 Mar 21, 2007
We need a Walmart here in manistee. It would be nice to shop locally. instead of going to Ludington all the time.
Kurt

Southfield, MI

#6 Mar 25, 2007
Do you think they will call it 'Wal-Mart' or 'Wal-Marts'?
Tammy

Traverse City, MI

#7 Apr 2, 2007
we shop in Ludington every 2 weeks spending an average of around $400 each time. We could be giving tax dollars back to Manistee since we live here. Maybe Governor Granholm should be contacted as she is pushing for new jobs in Michigan, yet all the GM and Ford retirees who now live in Manistee say no to a Wal-mart. I say--Bring it in PLEASEE!!
Kurt

Southfield, MI

#9 Apr 9, 2007
Whats wrong with the "Bargain Barn"?
Matt

Traverse City, MI

#10 May 21, 2007
There are a lot of factors that most people don't consider when they talk about shopping in Ludington. For example, look at the cost of fuel to drive round trip. In reality, you're talking 50 miles, if you get 10 miles to the gallon and pay 3.44 at the pump, your talking over $17 dollars in gas. Consider that it's an hour round trip out of your busy life. Then look at a Wal Mart in Manistee. How many of you work for an independent retailer or shop at a business in Manistee that provides product that you wouldn't buy at Walmart? Small businesses can't pay a good wage to employees when the economy doesn't support them. If you want a raise, you have to put money back into your local commerce. If you short your local independant retailers, your bosses, your neighbors and friends, you're killing your own paycheck. After WalMart comes in, our other businesses in Manistee will start to downsize, offer fewer products, and eventually many will close. When that starts to happen, other service businesses will start to be impacted by the failing economy, job loss, and population shrink. Before long, all you will have is the Walmart.
WalMart prices to their local Market just like Home Depot and Lowes. Once the competition is gone, their prices will go up anyway. I grew up in a city of 65000 people and having all the businesses that Ludington plus a few worked there. As a business owner, one could still take a good share. We barely have 65000 people between Manistee and Mason County together. Do you think two towns so close together can really benefit from all those big box businesses? Change will rip through this town like wild fire, new businesses and all of that. But when that slows down, and a year or two down the road they aren't making any money, they close up and leave. What we have is appropriate for what we are right now. We are a town full of retirees and homes for sale. The only real economy here comes from down state in the summer. With so few locals to support our economy, we shouldn't dare to split the pot any more by bringing in any big boxes, especially WalMart. Nobody's going to move to Manistee for a retail job. If there's nothing bigger than PCA and the Casino looking to come in and hand out some real paychecks, then we need to sit and wait till there is.
Ron

Manistee, MI

#11 May 27, 2007
I'm not a local, and I'm not a typical Manistee retiree - I've lived in cities with populations of ~1 million people and more. I don't drive a big fat American truck or SUV that gets 10 miles per gallon, I drive an import that gets 36. I like the casual lifestyle in Manistee. However, I do most of my shopping elsewhere. "Big-city" folks like me are accustomed to metro conveniences and selection, and our mindset is somewhat different. I don't think twice about driving downstate to shop, yet so many of my neighbors are afraid to drive the speed limit, much less get on a highway. Matt, your comments are appreciated and I understand your position (I've done business with you in the past, so I have bought some appliances locally), but count me among the many residents of Manistee that often choose to spend our dollars elsewhere! My point - bring Wally-World to Manistee. I'm already going there, I might as well keep the money "local."
Colleen

United States

#12 May 29, 2007
The local Manistee county economy will not support both a K-Mart and a Wal-mart. So if Wal-mart comes here, all your friends who work at K-Mart will soon be out of a job.

I admit I do drive down to Meijer's in Ludington about once every two months, but most of the time, I just go to our local Spartan grocery stores and the other shops in Manistee for what I need. By buying locally, I like to think I am contributing to the wages of the folks who work in our local stores, your neighbors and mine. I don't want to see any more empty storefronts in Manistee or any other of the communities in the county. If Wal-mart comes in, many of the mom-and-pop stores here will close. I'd rather pay a little more and retain the small-town atmosphere, rather than save a buck and contribute to the blight that comes with every Wal-mart or other big-box store. To those who want a Wal-mart so they can save a few cents, try thinking of the bigger picture instead of your wallet.
Colleen

United States

#13 May 29, 2007
What? I'm not from Vail, AZ! I live right here in Manistee county!
Uff-Da

Southfield, MI

#14 Jun 6, 2007
Must be where you swiped your computer from.
Kal

United States

#15 Jun 16, 2007
Speaking as a Wal*Mart Employee, and someone who has worked for various retail companies in my life; Wal*Mart is by far NOT the worst one out there. They do bring in a good number of jobs and a boost to the economy. Whether or not the increase continues is up to the people who shop there. I visit and vacation in Manistee several times every year AND I have family ties to the community dating back to the turn-of-the-century. And based on my experiences shopping on my vacations in Manistee, a little competition may be healthy from the consumers point-of-view. And I will tell you right now that any rumors about bad wages and poor health care for Wal*Mart employees are DEAD WRONG! Your benefits and wages are based on your experience and position you hold in the company. And your chances for advancement are what you make of the job you are hired to do. There are things about the company that I DON'T agree with, but most of those are based on problems I've had with our own store. Each store is different and depends on the community that surrounds it. So, if you want may opinion, a Wal*Mart is a good idea IF it has community involvement. But DON'T let other "Local" big-box companies come in if you keep Wal*Mart out.
Rene

Manistee, MI

#16 Jun 18, 2007
All this hype and gripe about mom and pop stores closing as a result of Wal-Mart moving in is ridiculous. The stores downtown are unique in their merchandise and would not be affected by this addition to Manistee. When you say we shouldn't be thinking with our wallets well, my response is I can't help thinking of my wallet. I don't work at PCA, Martin-Marietta, Morton Salt, or any other place that pays a decent wage. Like so many others in this town I earn minimum wage without the benefit of health coverage. Having a Wal-Mart would be a definite help to people like me. I go to Ludington when I can in order to shop at Wal-Mart because the bargains cannot be beat. As far as K-Mart goes, I can never find ANYTHING when I go in there. Either they don't have it or it's on order. K-Mart should leave town. It has little to offer whether you're talking jobs or merchandise. K-Mart screwed their people over when they took away full-time jobs in order to avoid health coverage, but still demanded most work 39 hours. Slick! Many of the people who work at K-Mart will most likely get jobs at Wal-Mart and so your friends and neighbors would still be employed, plus a few more. And maybe, just maybe, if this town gets a little more with this century it would spur Manistee to get rid of all the empty buildings around town so the desperation of a bad economy would not be so apparent. I just love it when people who HAVE money can be so arrogant as to forget this town has little to offer young people. Jobs are far and few between and offer no incentives nor do they offer a future worth considering. Wal-Mart is at least fair in their practices with jobs and definitely fair with prices and merchandise availability. People, get over your self-righteousness and help out those of us who could use a little boost up for our very thin wallets.
sarah

Kirkland, WA

#17 Jun 26, 2007
I think WalMart will ruin Manistee! I love it the way it is. So what if I have to drive to Ludington to shop. I have seen small grocery stores go under when the 'big guys' come to town. It is a SHAME!!!

NO WALMART! NO WALMART! NO WALMART!
The Hair

Manistee, MI

#18 Jul 6, 2007
"I think WalMart will ruin Manistee! I love it the way it is. So what if I have to drive to Ludington to shop."

You're against WalMart opening in Manistee, yet you freely admit to going to Ludington to shop. You must be one of those "special" people.

Kal

“STOP!!...and think.”

Since: Jun 07

Lake Odessa, MI

#19 Jul 13, 2007
I just got back from vacation in Manistee. I've got one thing to say: You people need a Wal-Mart to help lower prices or that town is gonna be in bad shape. Unless you can persuade the casino owners to buy up more businesses and give people jobs. But a certain "Company" coming into town that ACTUALLY puts money back into the community isn't something you all would like, now is it. Maybe a company that actually PAYS taxes is a negative. Supporters of Wal-Mart: don't give up.
Jennifer

Greenville, MI

#20 Jul 16, 2007
I live in Greenville. We got a Walmart superstore in 2005. It hasn't had any drastic affect on Greenville. But I think its because we have a really bad Walmart. It is a dismal looking place with no selection and rude workers. I end up going to Meijer to get things I need that Walmart doesn't carry or didn't restock. They say it isn't doing as well as expected. I do most of my shopping at Meijer in Greenville. They did lower their prices after Walmart came to town. I still buy some things from Jorgensens food store and shop at Kmart. Jorgies has some good sale items and is easier to pick up a few items there. A lot senior citizens go to Jorgies because it less walking and more personal service. Way better bakery than Meijer or Walmart. My family is from Kaleva. They need a Jorgensens.
Matt

Traverse City, MI

#21 Jul 19, 2007
Rene, and all, please check out this link wakeupwalmart.com/facts They're just not that great.

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