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concerned citzen

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WHY DO THE POLICE THINK THEY NEED TO HARASSTHE PEOPLE AROUND HERE, JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT COME TO A COMPLETE STOP OR DONT USE YOUR BLINKER IS THAT ANY REASON JUST TO STOP SOMEONE AND SERCH THERE CAR , AND YES I KNOW THEY WERE BREAKING THE LAW BY NOT DOING THAT. BUT THERE IS CERTAIN COPS THAT WILL DO THIS JUST TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN FIND WHEN THEY KNOW FOR FACT WHERE THEY CAN FIND IT BUT WILL NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THIS IS NOTHING BUT BS AND THEY KNOW IT AND THEY ONLY DO THIS TO CERTAIN PEOPLE. WHY THIS IS WRONG AND IT NEEDS TO STOP. THERE IS WORST THINGS OUT THERE FOR THEM TO BE LOOKING FOR THAN SOMEONE NOT USING THERE BLINKER .
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Jul 5, 2009
 
The things you have listed are in the drivers manual, that you are suspost to stop when you have a stop sign or at a red light, and you should use your blinker everytime you make a turn or change lanes !!Maybe if you follow the driving laws you want be getting pulled over for a serch !!
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if you werent breaking laws you shouldnt be worried. if someone ran a red light and hit you i bet you would have a change of heart. or doesnt use blinker while turning in front of you and causes an accident...simple just obey the law....
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concerned citzen wrote:
WHY DO THE POLICE THINK THEY NEED TO HARASSTHE PEOPLE AROUND HERE, JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT COME TO A COMPLETE STOP OR DONT USE YOUR BLINKER IS THAT ANY REASON JUST TO STOP SOMEONE AND SERCH THERE CAR , AND YES I KNOW THEY WERE BREAKING THE LAW BY NOT DOING THAT. BUT THERE IS CERTAIN COPS THAT WILL DO THIS JUST TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN FIND WHEN THEY KNOW FOR FACT WHERE THEY CAN FIND IT BUT WILL NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THIS IS NOTHING BUT BS AND THEY KNOW IT AND THEY ONLY DO THIS TO CERTAIN PEOPLE. WHY THIS IS WRONG AND IT NEEDS TO STOP. THERE IS WORST THINGS OUT THERE FOR THEM TO BE LOOKING FOR THAN SOMEONE NOT USING THERE BLINKER .
I dont know what you are mad about.But I think right now we have a great law inforcement in this whole parish. Do what is right and you want have problems.I bet if you had to call 911 you would not be crying!
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while I don't condone breaking the law, you folks need to get real, illegal search is a bigger violation of the law than failing to signal or coming to a complete stop, if you are stopped for a motor vehicle violation the officer is entitled to your license, registration and insurance card, nothing more, you are entitled to a ticket, law enforcement must first have probable cause and second a warrant to search your vehicle without your permission, any officer who doesn't know search and seizure law needs to be reported to their superiors so arrangements can be made for them to go back to school and be properly trained, this is exactly what gives our law enforcement a bad name
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Jul 10, 2009
 
ThinkAgain wrote:
while I don't condone breaking the law, you folks need to get real, illegal search is a bigger violation of the law than failing to signal or coming to a complete stop, if you are stopped for a motor vehicle violation the officer is entitled to your license, registration and insurance card, nothing more, you are entitled to a ticket, law enforcement must first have probable cause and second a warrant to search your vehicle without your permission, any officer who doesn't know search and seizure law needs to be reported to their superiors so arrangements can be made for them to go back to school and be properly trained, this is exactly what gives our law enforcement a bad name
Hire a competent attorney to sue the crap out of them for violating your civil rights. Then and only then will they realize they can't hide behind that big ole badge. YOu should not suffer because they do not have adequate training or worse that they can't Pass the POST training.
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being that everyone know the law, on searching a vehicle, 1st you do not have to have a search warrant, 2nd if the driver is dumb enough to give consent, and 3 dont have illegal thing in your vehicle and you won't have anything to worry about when you do get searched.. and by the way being everyone knows everything, everyone that works the streets in jonesboro and everyone that works the road in jackon parish have been properly trained, so go get you a good lawyer and good luck with everything you learn from a jail house attorney... and 2 more things you left out on your search and seizure laws, plain view and reasonable suspicision thanks and yall have a nice day at your home town jail
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ThinkAgain wrote:
while I don't condone breaking the law, you folks need to get real, illegal search is a bigger violation of the law than failing to signal or coming to a complete stop, if you are stopped for a motor vehicle violation the officer is entitled to your license, registration and insurance card, nothing more, you are entitled to a ticket, law enforcement must first have probable cause and second a warrant to search your vehicle without your permission, any officer who doesn't know search and seizure law needs to be reported to their superiors so arrangements can be made for them to go back to school and be properly trained, this is exactly what gives our law enforcement a bad name
You are right, sir/ma'am, police officers cannot search a vehicle without the permission of the driver.

Now, ask yourself, "is this relevant to the conversation, being that no one has even mentioned being searched against their will?"

The gripe in this thread, homie, is that after giving an officer permission to search their vehicle while on a traffic stop (for whatever reason), they want to whine because they'd have to take an active role to prevent it. Which is entirely within their rights.

You CAN say, "No, you cannot search my vehicle." And they won't. If you have cooperated with the officer and let him into your vehicle, DO. NOT. WHINE. AFTERWARDS.
diadem88

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offbeat wrote:
<quoted text>Hire a competent attorney to sue the crap out of them for violating your civil rights. Then and only then will they realize they can't hide behind that big ole badge. YOu should not suffer because they do not have adequate training or worse that they can't Pass the POST training.
I can only assume that you're referring to one of the 3 part-time officers that only come out one day per week when you refer to officers that "can't pass the POST training."

EVERY full time officer employed in Jonesboro has been through the academy, been post certified, and knows their job a bit better than you, I'd bet.

Please, everyone, if you are not well-informed, please do not open your mouth for the express purpose of proving your ignorance.
concerned citzen

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yes you are right you dont have to let them search your car, but some people get stop just because you use to have a past, but you dont now and that is nothing but harassment and they know it .
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Jul 10, 2009
 
diadem88 wrote:
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You are right, sir/ma'am, police officers cannot search a vehicle without the permission of the driver.
Now, ask yourself, "is this relevant to the conversation, being that no one has even mentioned being searched against their will?"
The gripe in this thread, homie, is that after giving an officer permission to search their vehicle while on a traffic stop (for whatever reason), they want to whine because they'd have to take an active role to prevent it. Which is entirely within their rights.
You CAN say, "No, you cannot search my vehicle." And they won't. If you have cooperated with the officer and let him into your vehicle, DO. NOT. WHINE. AFTERWARDS.
well I guess you're just going to have to point out the wording in the first post that says anyone gave an officer permission to search, or where it says the officer asked permission, I interpreted the original post to mean law enforcement stopped people for minor infractions as an excuse to search their vehicle, please show me where you're reading what I missed, then you can beat me with your wet noodle and I'll be more careful in the future, by the way, I'm the wrong sex to be a sir, I've never owned or run a whore house so I'm not a ma'am and I'm too old or the wrong color to know what a homie is
diadem88

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ThinkAgain wrote:
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well I guess you're just going to have to point out the wording in the first post that says anyone gave an officer permission to search, or where it says the officer asked permission, I interpreted the original post to mean law enforcement stopped people for minor infractions as an excuse to search their vehicle, please show me where you're reading what I missed, then you can beat me with your wet noodle and I'll be more careful in the future, by the way, I'm the wrong sex to be a sir, I've never owned or run a whore house so I'm not a ma'am and I'm too old or the wrong color to know what a homie is
Thank god, SOMEONE actually has a decent sense of humor on here!

But back to the first post: The original wording was actually that they didn't believe that not using a blinker was an excuse to search a vehicle.
And it isn't, but that is utterly irrelevant. Probable cause can be nearly ANYTHING.

If you believe the officer does not have the right to search the vehicle, or if you simply do not want him to, then once again you may say, "no." This almost always WILL make the officer suspicious that you have something to hide, but, eh...who cares?
diadem88

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And also, if the driver wanted to insist that permission was NOT given to search the vehicle, they are always more than welcome to call a viewing of the officer's recording of the stop from their dash-mounted camera.
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Jul 11, 2009
 
diadem88 wrote:
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I can only assume that you're referring to one of the 3 part-time officers that only come out one day per week when you refer to officers that "can't pass the POST training."
EVERY full time officer employed in Jonesboro has been through the academy, been post certified, and knows their job a bit better than you, I'd bet.
Please, everyone, if you are not well-informed, please do not open your mouth for the express purpose of proving your ignorance.
thats what is funny, you always "assume"...rofl..... and it aint me in the assume that is the stupid one....rofl...so brainiac....just keep right on ass u ming...rofl......
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blah blah...rofl...blah blah...rofl...blah blah...rofl...
Maybe rolling on the floor laughing (while typing) is how a person comes up with phrases like "in the assume." By the way, first-generation "chat-speak" like ROFL went out with bag phones (and the horse and buggy).
As for the topic, which you have trouble addressing coherently, I agree with others: If you have a case, get a lawyer and make it. I don't know if you can find one who speaks the ROFL dialect, but hey, to defend your rights, it's worth a try.
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Jul 12, 2009
 
samclay wrote:
blah blah...rofl...blah blah...rofl...blah blah...rofl...
Maybe rolling on the floor laughing (while typing) is how a person comes up with phrases like "in the assume." By the way, first-generation "chat-speak" like ROFL went out with bag phones (and the horse and buggy).
As for the topic, which you have trouble addressing coherently, I agree with others: If you have a case, get a lawyer and make it. I don't know if you can find one who speaks the ROFL dialect, but hey, to defend your rights, it's worth a try.
rofl rofl rofl
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Jul 13, 2009
 
old saying " if you can't do the time don't do the crime"
concerned citzen

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Jul 13, 2009
 
well its not about doing the time, its about the police stoping someone just because they use to have a past, and the police know where the drugs are but will not do anything about it , i wonder just how many tickets i could write if everybody in town got stoped for not useing thier blinker, or not coming to a complete stop. and how many could you write for the under age kids haveing beer with them on the weekends , but no they only stop certain ones and thats it peroid.
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Do you mean used to have a record? How can anyone "used to have a past"? You never stop having a past, good or bad. But for sure if I had a record, I would be extra careful to obey all traffic laws since all traffic laws exist for a reason plus I wouldn't want any more contact with the police. How hard is it to use a turn signal or obey a stop sign? And especially if you have drugs in your car or whatever it is you didn't want them to find, you should toe the line when driving. And unless you know the complete details of every ticket ever written in a town, how do you know they only stop "certain" people for "certain things"? If you were unfairly stopped or searched, you should fight that legally and not take it up on here while ignoring your responsibility for being stopped in the first place. I do know this about "certain people." They always make bad decisions and are always in trouble for it and always blame others for their problems. Some of us drive for decades all over the state and nation and never get stopped and never get a ticket. Obey the traffic laws and find out what that feels like.
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samclay wrote:
blah blah...rofl...blah blah...rofl...blah blah...rofl...
Maybe rolling on the floor laughing (while typing) is how a person comes up with phrases like "in the assume." By the way, first-generation "chat-speak" like ROFL went out with bag phones (and the horse and buggy).
As for the topic, which you have trouble addressing coherently, I agree with others: If you have a case, get a lawyer and make it. I don't know if you can find one who speaks the ROFL dialect, but hey, to defend your rights, it's worth a try.
I giggled at it, too, don't get me wrong, but it was just a punctuation mistake, not a grammatical one. The inflection was obvious if you read it as if you were speaking (i.e., "...in the 'assume,'").
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