Eight killed, 12 injured as truck sla...

Eight killed, 12 injured as truck slams into spectators at Lucerne ...

There are 112 comments on the San Bernardino County Sun story from Aug 15, 2010, titled Eight killed, 12 injured as truck slams into spectators at Lucerne .... In it, San Bernardino County Sun reports that:

An off-road truck sailed off a jump and hurtled into a crowd at a race in the Mojave desert, pinning bodies beneath it and sending others flying into a chaotic cloud of dust in a crash that killed eight people, authorities and witnesses said Sunday.

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VacaMom

Pleasanton, CA

#113 Aug 27, 2010
I believe if you put yourself that close to the fire, Then don't cry when you get burned! Instinct or "common" sense should of told those people to get back. Were they intoxicated? Most likely. Maybe it's the alcohol's fault or the sun, because it was so hot they had to drink. Whatever or whoever you want to blame.... blame your ownself.
Long Hauler

AOL

#114 Aug 27, 2010
VacaMom wrote:
I believe if you put yourself that close to the fire, Then don't cry when you get burned! Instinct or "common" sense should of told those people to get back. Were they intoxicated? Most likely. Maybe it's the alcohol's fault or the sun, because it was so hot they had to drink. Whatever or whoever you want to blame.... blame your ownself.
You just don't get it. Nobody is saying that the spectators who were killed weren't also at fault for standing too close to the track. Everyone agrees with that. They tempted fate by not staying back far enough. But that in no way absolves the guy who lost control of his truck and killed them. Every other driver safely drove through there and only this one driver screwed up and killed people. Just as the spectators knew they were taking a dangerous chance of being killed, the driver also knew his dangerous actions were taking a chance of killing the spectators. They're both to blame. So don't think the blame of one takes away the blame from the others.

Whenever someone drives a motor vehicle at high speeds over a bumpy trail within feet of spectators it's a dangerous act. The result of his losing control and killing people proves that. But the fact that these people were standing along the road wasn't the primary reason they were killed. It was a contributing factor simply by circumstances of where they were at the time. The primary cause was a driver losing control of his vehicle and veering off the course into the crowd. His vehicle decapitated and crushed human beings. That was the cause. That, along with the fact that they were too close to the course put them both at blame. The driver and the spectators. You can't intelligently blame one and completely absolve the other. Especially when one just made the mistake of being too close, and the other actually made a mis-calculation of speed and driving skills that killed numerous people. They were BOTH at fault, not just one. We know he didn't intend to injure or kill anyone, but his mistakes killed them anyway. They are both at fault, the spectators and the driver.
Skeptical Observer

Longview, WA

#115 Aug 27, 2010
Long Hauler wrote:
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You just don't get it. Nobody is saying that the spectators who were killed weren't also at fault for standing too close to the track. Everyone agrees with that. They tempted fate by not staying back far enough. But that in no way absolves the guy who lost control of his truck and killed them. Every other driver safely drove through there and only this one driver screwed up and killed people. Just as the spectators knew they were taking a dangerous chance of being killed, the driver also knew his dangerous actions were taking a chance of killing the spectators. They're both to blame. So don't think the blame of one takes away the blame from the others.
Whenever someone drives a motor vehicle at high speeds over a bumpy trail within feet of spectators it's a dangerous act. The result of his losing control and killing people proves that. But the fact that these people were standing along the road wasn't the primary reason they were killed. It was a contributing factor simply by circumstances of where they were at the time. The primary cause was a driver losing control of his vehicle and veering off the course into the crowd. His vehicle decapitated and crushed human beings. That was the cause. That, along with the fact that they were too close to the course put them both at blame. The driver and the spectators. You can't intelligently blame one and completely absolve the other. Especially when one just made the mistake of being too close, and the other actually made a mis-calculation of speed and driving skills that killed numerous people. They were BOTH at fault, not just one. We know he didn't intend to injure or kill anyone, but his mistakes killed them anyway. They are both at fault, the spectators and the driver.
Wow! Finally a post that actually makes complete sense! Very well put. Thank you.
a proud liberal loon

United States

#116 Aug 27, 2010
Proud Liberal wrote:
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Really? If you're a Troll like yourself, you're a even bigger Tard!!!!!
No I am a liberal retard like all liberals
come on idiot

Hesperia, CA

#117 Aug 28, 2010
hunkie boy wrote:
white redneck event,no blacks/mexicans, sort of the colorado river crowd.
This must be the guy in the locker room wearing his waste band of his underwear as a headband. Still pulling it out
come on idiot

Hesperia, CA

#118 Aug 28, 2010
Skeptical Observer wrote:
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Wow! Finally a post that actually makes complete sense! Very well put. Thank you.
You seem to have not clue as to what you are talking about!
come on idiot

Hesperia, CA

#119 Aug 28, 2010
Long Hauler wrote:
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You just don't get it. Nobody is saying that the spectators who were killed weren't also at fault for standing too close to the track. Everyone agrees with that. They tempted fate by not staying back far enough. But that in no way absolves the guy who lost control of his truck and killed them. Every other driver safely drove through there and only this one driver screwed up and killed people. Just as the spectators knew they were taking a dangerous chance of being killed, the driver also knew his dangerous actions were taking a chance of killing the spectators. They're both to blame. So don't think the blame of one takes away the blame from the others.
Whenever someone drives a motor vehicle at high speeds over a bumpy trail within feet of spectators it's a dangerous act. The result of his losing control and killing people proves that. But the fact that these people were standing along the road wasn't the primary reason they were killed. It was a contributing factor simply by circumstances of where they were at the time. The primary cause was a driver losing control of his vehicle and veering off the course into the crowd. His vehicle decapitated and crushed human beings. That was the cause. That, along with the fact that they were too close to the course put them both at blame. The driver and the spectators. You can't intelligently blame one and completely absolve the other. Especially when one just made the mistake of being too close, and the other actually made a mis-calculation of speed and driving skills that killed numerous people. They were BOTH at fault, not just one. We know he didn't intend to injure or kill anyone, but his mistakes killed them anyway. They are both at fault, the spectators and the driver.
You seem to have not clue as to what you are talking about! he was racing in a race
Proud Liberal

Saint Cloud, FL

#120 Aug 29, 2010
a proud liberal loon wrote:
<quoted text> No I am a liberal retard like all liberals
I'm not really a Liberal, I just stole someone else's name, and I'll steal yours too!!!!!
Sure

AOL

#122 Aug 29, 2010
the real good guy wrote:
how can anybody stand so close to the tracks...
after a jump at that.
God's work.
let's pray again.
That wasn't Gods work. The driver just went didn't quite control his truck enough to make it over the jump and stay on the course like the rest of the drivers did. Whether it be his speed or was following too close to the driver ahead. God wasn't driving that truck.
Sure

AOL

#123 Aug 29, 2010
come on idiot wrote:
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You seem to have not clue as to what you are talking about! he was racing in a race
Sorry dude. Just don't see it that way. Just because someone is in a race doesn't mean that they're temporarily out of the human race. You still have the responsibility for having the respect for human life. And if you know the course is littered with vulnerbable men, women and children you have to take responsibility for your own actions. Being in a race doesn't give you a license to kill. Yes, those spectators were not a safe distance from the course. That's more than true. They acted irresponsibly by being where they were. But the drivers knowing full well that they were in an unsafe place then did something just as unsafe or more by speeding through there. They knew the conditions were unsafe for the spectators and they charged through there with their trucks anyway. They may be legally not liable as far as in regards to criminal statutes, but morally they are just as at fault as the spectators. They were both guilty of negligent behavior. Both the drivers and spectators. Being in a race doesn't exempt someone from using good judgement. Especially when bad judgement can result in the deaths of innocent people.

Morally the driver is just as at fault as the spectators. He should have known better. He knew people were too close to the course. And he knew that if he screwed up he could kill people. He knew that better than anybody. I'm not saying he is totally at fault. But it wasn't the spectators that lost control and flew into the course, it was he who lost control and flew into the spectators. He has to share as much moral blame as the spectators. They died because he killed them. He lost control. He went off the course and he hit them. No way of getting aroung that. Sure if they had been somewhere else they would be safe. You can say that about any accident anywhere. But that doesn't change the fact that it was he that had contol of that truck and he who lost control and killed people.
god loves tards

United States

#124 Aug 29, 2010
Sure wrote:
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That wasn't Gods work. The driver just went didn't quite control his truck enough to make it over the jump and stay on the course like the rest of the drivers did. Whether it be his speed or was following too close to the driver ahead. God wasn't driving that truck.
God made it happen :)
FIRETHEMALL

Vallejo, CA

#125 Sep 16, 2010
Sure wrote:
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Sorry dude. Just don't see it that way. Just because someone is in a race doesn't mean that they're temporarily out of the human race. You still have the responsibility for having the respect for human life. And if you know the course is littered with vulnerbable men, women and children you have to take responsibility for your own actions. Being in a race doesn't give you a license to kill. Yes, those spectators were not a safe distance from the course. That's more than true. They acted irresponsibly by being where they were. But the drivers knowing full well that they were in an unsafe place then did something just as unsafe or more by speeding through there. They knew the conditions were unsafe for the spectators and they charged through there with their trucks anyway. They may be legally not liable as far as in regards to criminal statutes, but morally they are just as at fault as the spectators. They were both guilty of negligent behavior. Both the drivers and spectators. Being in a race doesn't exempt someone from using good judgement. Especially when bad judgement can result in the deaths of innocent people.
Morally the driver is just as at fault as the spectators. He should have known better. He knew people were too close to the course. And he knew that if he screwed up he could kill people. He knew that better than anybody. I'm not saying he is totally at fault. But it wasn't the spectators that lost control and flew into the course, it was he who lost control and flew into the spectators. He has to share as much moral blame as the spectators. They died because he killed them. He lost control. He went off the course and he hit them. No way of getting aroung that. Sure if they had been somewhere else they would be safe. You can say that about any accident anywhere. But that doesn't change the fact that it was he that had contol of that truck and he who lost control and killed people.
Had he slowed down to a controllable speed then he would have been rear ended causing a major 2 car accident. Either way spectators are responsible for themselves. Darwin was happy that day. Time to move on.......

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