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“John 3:16”

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#1 Jun 25, 2012
Court strikes down mandatory sentences of life imprisonment without parole for young murderers

By Tom Curry, msnbc.com National Affairs Writer

The Supreme Court Monday struck down mandatory sentences of life imprisonment without parole for convicted murderers who were only 14 years old when they committed their crimes.
There are approximately 80 fourteen-year-olds nationwide who are serving such sentences.

The justices ruled that imposition of a life-without-parole sentence on a fourteen-year-old person convicted of homicide violates the Eighth Amendment's prohibition against cruel and unusual punishments.

SCOTUS: Arizona overstepped with S.B. 1070

WASHINGTON (RNN)- The Supreme Court issued a victory to the Obama Administration today, ruling against Arizona in its fight for tougher immigration laws.
The Court upheld part of Arizona's Senate Bill 1070, but reversed a majority of it.

The act would have required police to check citizenship status during traffic stops "where reasonable suspicion exists" the person is in the U.S. illegally. It would have also required officers to verify citizenship when people are arrested and put more pressure on employers who hire illegal immigrants.
The law was the strictest of its kind when it was enacted and has inspired similar legislation in other states.

The federal government argued the law is invalid because federal immigration laws trump those at the state level. Arizona argued the law didn't conflict with immigration law, but matched it almost entirely, with the exception that it encouraged more frequent citizenship checks.

Obamacare is next. Stay tuned.

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#2 Jun 25, 2012
The supreme court is too full of it - they are just dragging this out.

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#3 Jun 25, 2012
It is a real shame that these Mexicans want to come here so bad from their poor country, however, they want to change our country. The supreme court should leave Arizona alone - if a young person deserves life without parole, just execute them - see how they like that.

“John 3:16”

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#4 Jun 25, 2012
At least it did keep the right of local officers to check immigration status.

The U.S. Supreme Court upheld a key part of Arizona's crackdown on illegal immigrants on Monday, rejecting the Obama administration's stance that only the U.S. government should enforce immigration laws in the United States. The nation's highest court, in an opinion by Justice Anthony Kennedy, unanimously upheld the state law's most controversial aspect, requiring police officers to check the immigration status of people they stop.

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#5 Jun 25, 2012
We need to pray that Obamacare gets struck down, our country is ruined if it stands.
The Dude

Jacksonville, FL

#6 Jun 25, 2012
Yeah, it would be awful if everyone had access to healthcare. Just a complete and utter nightmare...

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#7 Jun 25, 2012
The Dude wrote:
Yeah, it would be awful if everyone had access to healthcare. Just a complete and utter nightmare...
You know what "Dude", if everyone wants to pay for it just like I do, then good, however, I am tired of paying taxes for people to have a free ride. I see people everyday on disability having kids, these people can't even make a living for themselves and they are having more people for the tax payers to feed. I assume you work and pay taxes, does it not bother you to feed and take care of lazy people.
The Dude

Jacksonville, FL

#8 Jun 25, 2012
You're right, I do work and pay taxes. And no, it doesn't bother me to pay those taxes, but that is because I know that it is not solely used to bail out "lazy people." There are a huge number of people who are just down on their luck that need the assistance. Not to mention the people who work hard but are not given the opportunity to obtain affordable healthcare.

Oh, and I shouldn't even have to note the pre-existing condition provision as being a hugely positive part of the bill.
The Dude

Jacksonville, FL

#9 Jun 25, 2012
And it's not like the bill is giving anyone a free ride, it requires people to purchase their own insurance. I don't see how that is overwhelmingly benefitting "lazy people."

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#10 Jun 25, 2012
The Dude wrote:
And it's not like the bill is giving anyone a free ride, it requires people to purchase their own insurance. I don't see how that is overwhelmingly benefitting "lazy people."
Here are some examples, a drunk that does not work and lives on food stamps, his children are on welfare and he does not even raise them - how will he pay? A twenty year old that can't keep a job, how will he pay? A person that does odd jobs, pays no taxes, SS or anything else to pay their share - how will he pay? There is no way to get money from people like this, we will simply just increase our welfare. People need to have a reason to work, if we feed you, house you and give you healtcare, why will you work?

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#11 Jun 25, 2012
The Dude wrote:
You're right, I do work and pay taxes. And no, it doesn't bother me to pay those taxes, but that is because I know that it is not solely used to bail out "lazy people." There are a huge number of people who are just down on their luck that need the assistance. Not to mention the people who work hard but are not given the opportunity to obtain affordable healthcare.
Oh, and I shouldn't even have to note the pre-existing condition provision as being a hugely positive part of the bill.
The pre-existing condition provision is one thing I'm all for staying. But something must be done about the health insurance monopoly that has strangled our health care system, not through government ran healthcare, but maybe through a well checked insurance market.
The Dude

Jacksonville, FL

#12 Jun 25, 2012
cipsaw wrote:
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Here are some examples, a drunk that does not work and lives on food stamps, his children are on welfare and he does not even raise them - how will he pay? A twenty year old that can't keep a job, how will he pay? A person that does odd jobs, pays no taxes, SS or anything else to pay their share - how will he pay? There is no way to get money from people like this, we will simply just increase our welfare. People need to have a reason to work, if we feed you, house you and give you healtcare, why will you work?
No one is giving the people in your examples healthcare free of charge, though. Everyone would be required to carry health insurance. If you don't carry insurance, then you'd be subject to a fine; unless you are restricted by your religion or if you have a financial hardship...and in those cases, you just get away with no having insurance, you don't get free insurance.

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#13 Jun 26, 2012
Just tell me how Dude - you know and I know that if you do not work, you are going to get it for free - just explain to me how they will pay for it, that is all I want to know - how are they going to pay a fine - it is a joke, just another way to help people that are not willing to work.

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#14 Jun 26, 2012
cipsaw wrote:
Just tell me how Dude - you know and I know that if you do not work, you are going to get it for free - just explain to me how they will pay for it, that is all I want to know - how are they going to pay a fine - it is a joke, just another way to help people that are not willing to work.
It was stated that if you could not afford health insurance then you would get a tax return toward purchasing it. Honestly, this sounds more and more like a dream to a lobbyist of the insurance companies. I mean what more could they want than the government saying that you must buy their product or else?

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#15 Jun 26, 2012
ygp12 wrote:
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It was stated that if you could not afford health insurance then you would get a tax return toward purchasing it. Honestly, this sounds more and more like a dream to a lobbyist of the insurance companies. I mean what more could they want than the government saying that you must buy their product or else?
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The whole thing is a joke, the government can pass a law saying we all have to buy a Rolls Royce, but I can't can you. If people do not work and are not willing to work, they have no money. I am all for keeping the pre-existing clause and even leaving children on the parents insurance until age 26. Health insurance needs much reform, I know - we have paid right at 1100.00 per month for insurance, but I had rather have insurance than a new car or whatever. Many are not willing to make the sacrifice to pay insurance and I am not willing to buy it for them.
Little Big Man

Lucedale, MS

#16 Jun 26, 2012
"Cipsaw" you have the same thoughts on this "obamacare" as I do. And, your ideas about people getting "free ins., free welfare checks, free food stamps, free housing, free utility bills, free doctor's visits, free medicine, and the list goes on and on. It makes me sick, and angry, to see these "freebies" get all these benefits without working. THEY DO NOT WANT TO WORK!! I know a situation where a young, healthy man, his healthy fiance and her mother all live together. None of them want to work and why should they? They ALL recieve the "free" stuff. Yet, my spouse and I retired recently and live on Social Security without the benefit of the free stuff. These folks make you very angry because they are being supported with what we worked for. It makes me furious for these young, healthy people to sit back with their hands out for anything they can get. It's nothing but 'SORRINESS.'

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Lucedale, MS

#17 Jun 26, 2012
What about the children of these families? They don't deserve healthcare... or food?

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#18 Jun 26, 2012
Little Big Man wrote:
"Cipsaw" you have the same thoughts on this "obamacare" as I do. And, your ideas about people getting "free ins., free welfare checks, free food stamps, free housing, free utility bills, free doctor's visits, free medicine, and the list goes on and on. It makes me sick, and angry, to see these "freebies" get all these benefits without working. THEY DO NOT WANT TO WORK!! I know a situation where a young, healthy man, his healthy fiance and her mother all live together. None of them want to work and why should they? They ALL recieve the "free" stuff. Yet, my spouse and I retired recently and live on Social Security without the benefit of the free stuff. These folks make you very angry because they are being supported with what we worked for. It makes me furious for these young, healthy people to sit back with their hands out for anything they can get. It's nothing but 'SORRINESS.'
Our generation was taught to work - if we didn't work, we didn't eat. If I ever show up some where asking for help, I will be skin and bones. People need to have to work.

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#19 Jun 26, 2012
agoodusername wrote:
What about the children of these families? They don't deserve healthcare... or food?
You will think I am very heartless, however, I am not. If a man has been working and loses his job, he can draw unemployment and he and his wife need to figure out how to stretch their money. It is a families responsibility to feed their children. When I grew up, if you were poor, you were just poor. Men had to work if it was picking cotton - Put the sorry mothers and daddies to work - we have Mexicans working all over the place because we don't want to do it. Just because you are born in this country does not mean someone else has to work and feed you. If a man is trying, help him - if he is not willing to work "let him starve". There is no shame in this country anymore - it is a shame for a man not to take care of his own flesh and blood.

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#20 Jun 26, 2012
Obama himself once said, "You cannot cure homelessness by requiring one to buy a home." Obamacare will be paid out of pocket like car insurance or else.

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