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Apparently our property taxes are going up - if you don't want to pay more - vote "NO" on the school bond. Read the front page of the George County paper - the teachers are certainly pushing the bond, what a joke.
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No thanks, the schools are in poor condition. I'll vote how I feel I need to vote, and that's a vote for improving the schools' condition. I don't need anyone else to tell me how I should vote.

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No thanks, the schools are in poor condition. I'll vote how I feel I need to vote, and that's a vote for improving the schools' condition. I don't need anyone else to tell me how I should vote.
Each person has a right to vote as they please, I will vote "no". I believe only property owners should be allowed to vote on this, folks on welfare don't care. Your taxes will be going up, buy I had rather not pay more myself.
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Someone wrote:
Apparently our property taxes are going up - if you don't want to pay more - vote "NO" on the school bond. Read the front page of the George County paper - the teachers are certainly pushing the bond, what a joke.
How is education a joke? People like you are what's a joke. You do not value education and you are what is keeping our county behind others.
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In order to get out of the mess our country is in, we have to give our children every opportunity to do better than their parents. However, some parents are teaching their kids to use the system. There are some families that have been on welfare for at least 3 generations and will continue to be unless the educational system steps in and shows students they can do better for themselves.

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How is education a joke? People like you are what's a joke. You do not value education and you are what is keeping our county behind others.
No people like me know how to manage their money. I sent my kids thru college so don't tell me about an education. An education is one of the most important things in life, but it starts with the family not the school. The school spends their day trying to tell the kids how to dress and not to wear a nose ring. Until the parents in this county get off of welfare and start setting an example for their children the school can do nothing. The property owners are keeping this county afloat and many of us are getting tired of it. I would be very interested in your level of education, you are probably a teacher. Did you see where we have passed a law in MS that you must have a 21 on your ACT and a 2.75 GPA to be a teacher - that is a joke. We don't need average people to teach our children.
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No people like me know how to manage their money. I sent my kids thru college so don't tell me about an education. An education is one of the most important things in life, but it starts with the family not the school. The school spends their day trying to tell the kids how to dress and not to wear a nose ring. Until the parents in this county get off of welfare and start setting an example for their children the school can do nothing. The property owners are keeping this county afloat and many of us are getting tired of it. I would be very interested in your level of education, you are probably a teacher. Did you see where we have passed a law in MS that you must have a 21 on your ACT and a 2.75 GPA to be a teacher - that is a joke. We don't need average people to teach our children.


Here's the thing. The value of my property is far above the average George County resident. We, that own property, have to pay taxes on it. That fact won't change. The supervisors choose how that money is spent. I would rather choose some of it go toward education, since it's to be paid, anyway. Voting yes would give us property owners a say so where our tax dollars actually go. And, I believe education is a top priority for it to be spent on. Nobody will be paying extra if the bond passes. It just allows us to direct our money to services we want instead of the county deciding for us.

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Ironman wrote:
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Here's the thing. The value of my property is far above the average George County resident. We, that own property, have to pay taxes on it. That fact won't change. The supervisors choose how that money is spent. I would rather choose some of it go toward education, since it's to be paid, anyway. Voting yes would give us property owners a say so where our tax dollars actually go. And, I believe education is a top priority for it to be spent on. Nobody will be paying extra if the bond passes. It just allows us to direct our money to services we want instead of the county deciding for us.
If we vote no - your taxes will go down. We have paid off the bond for the high school. The supervisors will have to return that money to the tax payers. We are going to have a tax increase because of the loss of prison labor, but maybe a no vote will offset the increase. Many tax payers in this county are hurting.

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Maroon09 wrote:
In order to get out of the mess our country is in, we have to give our children every opportunity to do better than their parents. However, some parents are teaching their kids to use the system. There are some families that have been on welfare for at least 3 generations and will continue to be unless the educational system steps in and shows students they can do better for themselves.
These people you are talking about are not being encouraged to use the education system to change their lives. They have been taught how to use the system, do nothing, and have everything taken care of for them. New buildings are not going to change these people, cutting out programs will. I will be voting NO!
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May 2, 2013
 
Is this vote coinciding with the mayoral election? Which day by the way?
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cipsaw wrote:
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No people like me know how to manage their money. I sent my kids thru college so don't tell me about an education. An education is one of the most important things in life, but it starts with the family not the school. The school spends their day trying to tell the kids how to dress and not to wear a nose ring. Until the parents in this county get off of welfare and start setting an example for their children the school can do nothing. The property owners are keeping this county afloat and many of us are getting tired of it. I would be very interested in your level of education, you are probably a teacher. Did you see where we have passed a law in MS that you must have a 21 on your ACT and a 2.75 GPA to be a teacher - that is a joke. We don't need average people to teach our children.
So are you downing teachers? People who teach do it because they love it, because the pay is not good and neither are the benefits. It is seeing the light bulb turn on when a child understands a concept. Yes, not all teachers are great, but that can be said for any job.
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So are you downing teachers? People who teach do it because they love it, because the pay is not good and neither are the benefits. It is seeing the light bulb turn on when a child understands a concept. Yes, not all teachers are great, but that can be said for any job.
Well said! They certainly do not do it for the pay, especially here.
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It seems easy for others to point fingers at other's choices in life, which major they decided to take on and why. However, these same people have no undergraduate degree much less a graduate level of education. Keep pointing fingers, you're part of the problem when you don't act toward a solution.
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May 2, 2013
 
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If we vote no - your taxes will go down. We have paid off the bond for the high school. The supervisors will have to return that money to the tax payers. We are going to have a tax increase because of the loss of prison labor, but maybe a no vote will offset the increase. Many tax payers in this county are hurting.
You seem very logical and know most of the details concerning this issue. Yes, the previous bond has been paid off. What most probably don't realize is that there is money already approved to be used (the same amount as if we hadn't paid it off yet) from grants (not our tax money). If the vote is NO, you're right; the available money will go to the supervisors, but they will not HAVE to give it back. They should, but when have politicians or government officials ever given back money to the public after they've received it? I wouldn't count on that happening. That money, I believe, would be kept and used for other projects for the county without our actual approval. And, I would like to support education and MAKE the money go toward GC school district by voting YES. My belief is that either way, yes or no, our taxes won't be affected. Also, there is a time table for grant money to be used and if it isn't used very soon for the school district, when something HAS to be built for the schools, tax money would have to be used then. I would rather the money available now be used than our tax money used then. Cipsaw, you do make very good points. We have different opinions on how money is managed by supervisors. I respectfully agree to disagree.
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May 2, 2013
 
To shorten it up for people who don't like to read...It comes down to this...Already allocated grant money will be used for something. Vote NO if you'd like the money to go to whatever the supervisors' choose. Vote YES if you'd like to direct your money specifically to help our schools.
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My problem with a property tax increase is not that the money will be used to fund education. My problem is that there may be a property tax increase at all. To put it another way, a certain percentage of the county's citizens will foot the bill for something that others take advantage of at no cost to them. From my observations, there are many parents (of school age children) who do not own property and therefore reap the benefit without any personal fiscal sacrifice of their own. I would support a local sales tax before a property tax increase. At least then everyone would be obligated to contribute.
Like another poster commented, property owners (and workers, for that matter) are tired of being looted so others can collect free stuff.
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May 2, 2013
 
I SHOULD KNOW wrote:
My problem with a property tax increase is not that the money will be used to fund education. My problem is that there may be a property tax increase at all. To put it another way, a certain percentage of the county's citizens will foot the bill for something that others take advantage of at no cost to them. From my observations, there are many parents (of school age children) who do not own property and therefore reap the benefit without any personal fiscal sacrifice of their own. I would support a local sales tax before a property tax increase. At least then everyone would be obligated to contribute.
Like another poster commented, property owners (and workers, for that matter) are tired of being looted so others can collect free stuff.
You live in a poor society (George county), us property owners are going to have to pick up the slack.

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Maroon09 wrote:
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So are you downing teachers? People who teach do it because they love it, because the pay is not good and neither are the benefits. It is seeing the light bulb turn on when a child understands a concept. Yes, not all teachers are great, but that can be said for any job.
Teachers teach because it is a job with about 4 months off per year, with a pretty good wage and retirement. Why don't they just all become doctors and help people and make more money. Give me a break, their salary is not bad - try being a policeman for about half as much - they help people. I am not downing teachers, many of them do a great job and many are lacking.

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You seem very logical and know most of the details concerning this issue. Yes, the previous bond has been paid off. What most probably don't realize is that there is money already approved to be used (the same amount as if we hadn't paid it off yet) from grants (not our tax money). If the vote is NO, you're right; the available money will go to the supervisors, but they will not HAVE to give it back. They should, but when have politicians or government officials ever given back money to the public after they've received it? I wouldn't count on that happening. That money, I believe, would be kept and used for other projects for the county without our actual approval. And, I would like to support education and MAKE the money go toward GC school district by voting YES. My belief is that either way, yes or no, our taxes won't be affected. Also, there is a time table for grant money to be used and if it isn't used very soon for the school district, when something HAS to be built for the schools, tax money would have to be used then. I would rather the money available now be used than our tax money used then. Cipsaw, you do make very good points. We have different opinions on how money is managed by supervisors. I respectfully agree to disagree.
I appreciate you being able to disagree and not call names. I see this as another bond, not a grant. We will just continue the old bond and continue to pay it or at least that is the way I understand it. A couple of weeks ago one of the supervisors wrote a letter to the GC Times stating that our taxes will not go up if we pass it - wish I still had the paper, I think he did say they may go down. It was, of course, put in an unusual area of the paper and not with the other comments. I do not appreciate the way that our money is being spent and I do know that learning is not attached to big beautiful buildings. We need dedicated parents and dedicated teachers. I appreciate your points too.

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It seems easy for others to point fingers at other's choices in life, which major they decided to take on and why. However, these same people have no undergraduate degree much less a graduate level of education. Keep pointing fingers, you're part of the problem when you don't act toward a solution.
How do you know what level of education others have. I was shocked to learn that a person can become a teacher with a 2.75 GPA, that is less than a "B" and a 21 on the ACT. That is certainly not people with an above average IQ, or an above average get up and go.

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