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Purvis, MS

#1 Jan 3, 2014
You were warned not to come at night into Lucedale city limits with unpaid tickets, faulty equipment and warrants. They are not fooled by your riding the brakes to hide your burned out lights. Lucedale can use the extra income though. You are being watched. Drive slow, drive legal.

Since: Jun 12

Lucedale

#2 Jan 4, 2014
Drive in a police state like east Nazi Germany where you are taxed exorbitantly, you are stopped detained, questioned, accused and fined because you can't show your papers. You were warned that the policies of communist states would easily infringe on liberty for temporary safety. That the government would force you to surrender and pay fines without right or reason. Any city that has roadblocks at its gates is not protecting the people, but looking to prosecute and imprison its people...in the name of safety, against liberty, for revenue. It is absurd, it is unjust, it is a police state. Every weekend we are forced to show our papers. We are forced to register our person and our property. We can lose our freedoms and smile that we are safe, but safe from what or who? We cannot make criminals out of irresponsible men. We cannot make criminals out of our young people for being mischievous. The man who works the jobs no one wants so his family can eat, but doesn't have the money to work on his car. We have made a mistake and if we don't question authority and elect representatives who use a common sense approach, who see the lines of grey, and will fight to secure our liberty we will wonder soon "Where is it... that fleeting memory of freedom and liberty... that once was America?"

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#4 Jan 5, 2014
It has always been legal to stop and check drive license and other requirements, otherwise, why get one? They have found dangerous criminals, dope pushers and illegal aliens that way.And its the main way they serve papers as they rarely get out and serve them. Write your congressman.

Since: Jun 12

Lucedale

#6 Jan 6, 2014
I would never support the police randomly pulling over law abiding citizens while they travel, and detaining them so they can make sure you aren't "Breaking the Law"!

Well Mr Officer while you are doing that why don't you stop by my house check my drivers license, against my deed, or rental agreement, and ask me for my homeowners/rental insurance! Oh and check that i haven't removed any federal labeling off my mattress!!... Oh and you can check to see if I'm hiding any dope pushers, illegal aliens, or DANGEROUS!!! Criminals!

Where does it end?? How bout a joke! Patrick Henry stops his horse at a roadblock...<---see what I did there?

Do you think George Washington or Samuel Adams or John Hancock would have let someone stop their carriage question and detain them?

Very well not! They started a revolution that specifically attacked certain issues just like this. The government should never have the power to stop innocent law abiding Americans even "slightly" from pursuing happiness. Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction!

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#7 Jan 6, 2014
johnomoran3 wrote:
I would never support the police randomly pulling over law abiding citizens while they travel, and detaining them so they can make sure you aren't "Breaking the Law"!
Well Mr Officer while you are doing that why don't you stop by my house check my drivers license, against my deed, or rental agreement, and ask me for my homeowners/rental insurance! Oh and check that i haven't removed any federal labeling off my mattress!!... Oh and you can check to see if I'm hiding any dope pushers, illegal aliens, or DANGEROUS!!! Criminals!
Where does it end?? How bout a joke! Patrick Henry stops his horse at a roadblock...<---see what I did there?
Do you think George Washington or Samuel Adams or John Hancock would have let someone stop their carriage question and detain them?
Very well not! They started a revolution that specifically attacked certain issues just like this. The government should never have the power to stop innocent law abiding Americans even "slightly" from pursuing happiness. Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction!
Boy you told the truth and hit the nail on the head like i said a bitch with a badge...

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#8 Jan 7, 2014
Because there no law against that. Plus the buyer can remove the tag, just not the dealer. When and if they have a warrant for that, they will do it. Quit complaining and take action if you don't like it. I'll make it simpler. Tell your councilman and/or the mayor, otherwise you the way. The founding fathers agreed that without law, there is chaos.

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#9 Jan 7, 2014
Reasonable Suspicion Requirement
Although an officer may randomly stop a pedestrian to check for identification or purpose in the area, a random vehicle stop to check for a driver's license or vehicle registration is not justified unless the officer has a reasonable suspicion that the driver does not have a license or that the vehicle is not registered. The officer must have a lawful reason or justification for stopping a motorist. A traffic stop that is not justified will not be valid and any evidence obtained by the officer from such a stop will not be admissible in court. Common justifications for traffic or investigative stops include:
Traffic violations (speeding, failure to yield,etc)
Defective equipment or equipment violations
Missing or defective license plates
Erratic driving behavior, such as reckless or drunk driving
Emergency response calls
Suspicious criminal activity

Roadblocks or sobriety checkpoints are permitted under the Fourth Amendment so long as they are conducted in a neutral or non-arbitrary manner, their intrusion on motorists is limited, and they further an important governmental or public purpose. There is no requirement that an officer have a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity to justify a stop at a roadblock. Factors that determine whether a roadblock is neutral and does not overly intrude on motorists include whether:
Supervisory personnel or field officers make the decision to set up a roadblock
The roadblock is conducted according to neutral plans or guidelines
Cars are stopped randomly or are selected at the discretion of officers
The roadblock causes an unreasonable delay to motorists
The roadblock is clearly marked as a checkpoint
Officers conducting the checkpoint are properly trained and experienced
Safe conditions are maintained

Roadblocks have been found to further a governmental interest in the following instances:
Catching and deterring drunk driving
Checking for vehicle or license registration
Addressing highway safety concerns, such as seatbelt law enforcement
Policing the border
Acquiring information on a recent violent crime in the area
A roadblock is not justified to obtain evidence of ordinary criminal wrongdoing or of drug crimes. Some state constitutions prohibit roadblocks and require officers to have an individualized suspicion to justify a vehicle stop.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#10 Jan 7, 2014
Scoop stop taking up for these pieces of shit cops who do wrong with a badge let me guess check this link and see if this is so right.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25350...

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#11 Jan 7, 2014
Not taking up for anyone but what they are doing is entirely legal. If you don't like them doing their jobs, tell their superiors such as chief, mayor or councilman. Then put a letter to the editor. Noone cares about here but action by determined citizens will achieve much.

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#12 Jan 7, 2014
Suck_it_up wrote:
Scoop stop taking up for these pieces of shit cops who do wrong with a badge let me guess check this link and see if this is so right.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25350...
Hasn't got anything to do with traffic checks. Only issue here is why, like Rodney king, they didn't cuff him and haul him away to an institute. Maybe EMT can shed some light on the situation.

Since: Jun 12

Lucedale

#13 Jan 7, 2014
Scoop I am frequently working to make things better in our county and our state. If you remember a little bit of gun legislation called HB2 Open Carry I was on the front end of the push giving speeches and working rallies all across the state. I contacted nearly all 80 sheriffs and worked with lawyers, judges, libertarians, republicans, patriot, and militia groups all over the state.

Part of that process is education and awareness. Complaining is how we get things done. I would say to you and Bob stop Praising them and show them how thankful you are.(honestly I'd prefer you sit on your couch and do nothing since I think you both have been misled and brainwashed) I want folks to see the historical ramifications of the mainstream establishments policies. To understand that you are being subjected to the same things we fought against in WW2.

Just because something is legal that doesn't make it right. If it suddenly became legal to confiscate weapons from the people and the cops went out and did it would the cop be responsible or was he just following orders? Of course he is responsible he should say no thats against the constitution and I'm not gonna do that expletive.

The Marine who is told that any physical threat should be met with deadly force shoots a kid who throws a rock do we say well he had permission? No. We say devil dog, don't be an expletive, the kid threw a rock!

We make conscious decisions to do right and wrong and we are held personally responsible. The officer who commits a wrong isn't excused from the wrong because he did it in fear of losing his job. If you swear to protect and serve it means you do it no matter the consequence especially when it matters.

Getting back to the point.

Roadblocks, random searches, and the idea that police are of some higher authority are all ideas that have been ingrained into the public to seek compliance. Challenge police, question their motives, record the encounter, and whatever you do don't answer any questions or comply with their requests if you've done nothing wrong.

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#14 Jan 8, 2014
Taking action is what gets the job done. Complaining alone won't bother them. And I don't recall you inviting others to call certain reps and posting numbers as I have so no one knows anything that can be done. The intense random checks have been ongoing for over three months and no city official has been contacted to check their activities nor have I seen you or any others at any city hall meetings on the subject.

Roadblocks have been found to further a governmental interest in the following instances:
Catching and deterring drunk driving
Checking for vehicle or license registration
Addressing highway safety concerns, such as seatbelt law enforcement
Policing the border
Acquiring information on a recent violent crime in the area

Roadblocks or sobriety checkpoints are permitted under the Fourth Amendment so long as they are conducted in a neutral or non-arbitrary manner, their intrusion on motorists is limited, and they further an important governmental or public purpose. There is no requirement that an officer have a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity to justify a stop at a roadblock. Factors that determine whether a roadblock is neutral and does not overly intrude on motorists include whether:

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#15 Jan 8, 2014
The_SCOOP wrote:
Taking action is what gets the job done. Complaining alone won't bother them. And I don't recall you inviting others to call certain reps and posting numbers as I have so no one knows anything that can be done. The intense random checks have been ongoing for over three months and no city official has been contacted to check their activities nor have I seen you or any others at any city hall meetings on the subject.
Roadblocks have been found to further a governmental interest in the following instances:
Catching and deterring drunk driving
Checking for vehicle or license registration
Addressing highway safety concerns, such as seatbelt law enforcement
Policing the border
Acquiring information on a recent violent crime in the area
Roadblocks or sobriety checkpoints are permitted under the Fourth Amendment so long as they are conducted in a neutral or non-arbitrary manner, their intrusion on motorists is limited, and they further an important governmental or public purpose. There is no requirement that an officer have a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity to justify a stop at a roadblock. Factors that determine whether a roadblock is neutral and does not overly intrude on motorists include whether:
Scoop i can recall him inviting others to call certain reps and posting numbers i have a link to where he posted this man is a very smart man you must not can see that

Since: Jun 12

Lucedale

#17 Jan 8, 2014
The facts are that they are not permitted under the fourth amendment.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched, and persons or things to be seized.

This states that they must have a reason, probable cause, and a warrant that is sworn under and gives the information of who, what , and where. If these tenants aren't followed then its not applicable. In the case that made roadblocks "constitutional" it was even said that the need for safety was held over the needs of liberty. It is not constitutional it is the beginning of the police state. The same could be said of the TSA and Border Patrol checkpoints. This is not liberty its the sacrifice of liberty under the guise of safety.

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#18 Jan 9, 2014
U.S. Citizen: Rights, Privileges and Responsibilities
Complete Listing

The following is complete listing of rights, privileges, and responsibilities of U.S. citizen. In some states, some rights and privileges may have some restrictions for some categories of citizens. Most responsibilities are mandatory, some responsibilities (such as voting) are voluntary. Under certain circumstances, there are exceptions. The listing of rights and privileges of U.S. citizen is longer than the listing of rights and privileges of U.S. permanent resident. This listing of responsibilities of U.S. citizen is shorter than the listing of responsibilities of U.S. permanent resident.

http://voices.yahoo.com/us-citizen-rights-pri...

Sources:
Laws: The United States Constitution, U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Internal Revenue Code (IRC)
Regulations: Code of Federal Regulations, Title 8 (8 CFR)

Rights vs. Privileges
Just as many people don't know the difference between blame and responsibility, the difference between rights and privileges is often confused. A right is granted by society to its members in order for it to function; a privilege is granted by a group or individual as either a reward for, or conditional upon, good behavior.

Rights can be revoked, but only through due process of law. If you violate the laws of society, you will risk your freedom being taken away -- your liberty will be curtailed. If you are convicted of a felony, your right to vote will be revoked. But all of these require the judicial system and due process. One person cannot decide to permanently revoke your rights. In the same vein, you cannot just arbitrarily decide what is and is not your right.

Privileges Are Not Rights. Like power, privileges can be revoked. As stated, privileges are granted either as a reward or conditionally. In more formal circumstances, due process also is applied. Recently it was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court that driving an automobile was not a right, but a privilege. States can take away a person's privilege to drive if that person doesn't conform to that state's code of safe conduct.
Under less formal conditions, however, the person or group who grants you the privilege can also revoke same, and without due process.

Privileges are often granted because the person giving them has decided that your behavior is beneficial to him or her. Or because the person has taken on the duty of helping you (e.g., a parent raising and readying you for existence in this society). Now while parents are legally obligated to supply support, past a very basic standard, you quickly get into privilege territory.

Unfortunately, many young people do not understand the difference between a right and a privilege. Nor do they understand the economic nature of privilege. In any context outside your family, privileges are earned. And yet many people assume that they are, in fact, rights. Not so.

Read more:
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/responsi...
mothadudcj

Pittsburgh, PA

#19 Jan 9, 2014

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#20 Jan 9, 2014
As for the city police checking cars, nothing will change unless unwanted publicity occurs.(city hall meetings, letter to the editor, ads on radios, calls to local television stations, newspapers, videos on YouTube etc.) Got your cameras and dash cams ready?

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#21 Jan 9, 2014
http://www.avvo.com/free-legal-advice

http://statter911.com/2011/04/20/police-vs-ne...

http://gizmodo.com/5900680/7-rules-for-record...

Lan T. Diep
San Francisco Employment / Labor Attorney

"You are correct that you have the right to photograph anything in a public space. Any police officer who tells you otherwise should know better.
Having said that, if a fire happens on private property, you don't have a right to enter the private property to photograph the fire; you have to take your pictures from a distance, while remaining on public land. Also, your right to take pictures is limited by the need of police officers to deal with the emergency. Meaning you can't get in the way of officers doing there job just so you can get a nice shot. Assuming you're doing neither of these things, you're good to go."

Alan Brinkmeier
Chicago Lawsuit / Dispute Attorney

"Public areas may be photographed"
jus me

United States

#22 Jan 14, 2014
George County finest does what they want when they want rather it's a he or a she... and yes I think her badge has gone fo her head , she has the little man syndrome Mabe going on.. and as far as the road blocks they don't randomly pick the cars to show id they pick every single one of the cars unless it's someone they kno.. So no I don't think they should have road blocks and yes I am a law abiding tax paying citizen who has insurance full coverage to be precise..

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

George County, MS. USA

#23 Jan 15, 2014
Lucedale police department is the one in question here. George County is not the one in the city doing frequent stops.

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