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_N0_N33D_T0_T33L _

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#1 Nov 21, 2012
Please check this out and let me know what you think

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#3 Nov 21, 2012
How can your meter see what is going on in your house? Our meters sending the reading to the power company. I cannot give an educated answer because I have never thought about it and I am still not convinced it is a danger. What do you know?

_N0_N33D_T0_T33L _

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#4 Nov 21, 2012
cipsaw wrote:
How can your meter see what is going on in your house? Our meters sending the reading to the power company. I cannot give an educated answer because I have never thought about it and I am still not convinced it is a danger. What do you know?
Thats the thing cip i dont know i was hoping somebody might know

_N0_N33D_T0_T33L _

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#5 Nov 21, 2012
Digital meters record "time of day" usage all day every day. Those records are transmitted every few minutes or less. The power company stores your usage records and they can easily tell when you are in the bathroom, doing your laundry, using your microwave, etc. Any activity in the home that involves grid electricity is retrievable permanently by strangers at your power company, by law enforcement and by hackers.

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#6 Nov 21, 2012
_N0_N33D_T0_T33L_ wrote:
Digital meters record "time of day" usage all day every day. Those records are transmitted every few minutes or less. The power company stores your usage records and they can easily tell when you are in the bathroom, doing your laundry, using your microwave, etc. Any activity in the home that involves grid electricity is retrievable permanently by strangers at your power company, by law enforcement and by hackers.
I personally don't see that as a danger, I think it helps them monitor the times that they have the highest useage. I can remember years ago when we had to read our meters and mail a card back in - if you find out anything tell us about it.

_N0_N33D_T0_T33L _

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#7 Nov 22, 2012
cipsaw wrote:
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I personally don't see that as a danger, I think it helps them monitor the times that they have the highest useage. I can remember years ago when we had to read our meters and mail a card back in - if you find out anything tell us about it.
well cipp im gonna dig deep into this i can remember a few years ago when i still had the old meter my light bill was cheap not over 90 dollors and when they put this thing called the smart meter on my bill went up to 180-300 a month and hasnt been under 180

_N0_N33D_T0_T33L _

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#8 Nov 22, 2012
mr mackey

Lucedale, MS

#9 Nov 22, 2012
This sounds like the same paranoia over "chem-trails" on airliners. Calm down, it's not as if each individual outlet in your home has a hexidecimal mac address that is sent via interior wiring. In order for what you are saying to actually be reality, a wireless rf signal or another type of inline signature would have to be propagated to the smart meter from the outlet and/or device. Unless our power company came into your home and installed new outlets with rf transmitters, then they only know how much power you are using at what time of the day. This, essentially helps them to know when peak times are for usage.

_N0_N33D_T0_T33L _

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#10 Nov 22, 2012
mr mackey wrote:
This sounds like the same paranoia over "chem-trails" on airliners. Calm down, it's not as if each individual outlet in your home has a hexidecimal mac address that is sent via interior wiring. In order for what you are saying to actually be reality, a wireless rf signal or another type of inline signature would have to be propagated to the smart meter from the outlet and/or device. Unless our power company came into your home and installed new outlets with rf transmitters, then they only know how much power you are using at what time of the day. This, essentially helps them to know when peak times are for usage.
Thank you i was wondering about this and was hoping somebody knew again thanks

_N0_N33D_T0_T33L _

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#11 Nov 23, 2012
mr mackey wrote:
This sounds like the same paranoia over "chem-trails" on airliners. Calm down, it's not as if each individual outlet in your home has a hexidecimal mac address that is sent via interior wiring. In order for what you are saying to actually be reality, a wireless rf signal or another type of inline signature would have to be propagated to the smart meter from the outlet and/or device. Unless our power company came into your home and installed new outlets with rf transmitters, then they only know how much power you are using at what time of the day. This, essentially helps them to know when peak times are for usage.
You wouldnt be by any chance work or have something to do with SRPA? Im doing my research and found it to be legal to remove these smart meters but dont take my word check yourself
mr mackey

Lucedale, MS

#12 Nov 23, 2012
No, I'm not challenging the legality to remove these, but but I am challenging the theory that a meter can track actions within a home without an rf type of transmitter on each outlet and an rf receiver on the smart meter. If you look hard enough online, you can find many theories and conspiracies. But no, I not affiliation with any power associations, I just see so many of these hoaxes on youtube....ever looked up "hydrogen generator" or "perpetual motion machine"? It's easy to get sucked into them though if you want to believe what they are saying.

_N0_N33D_T0_T33L _

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#13 Nov 23, 2012
mr mackey wrote:
No, I'm not challenging the legality to remove these, but but I am challenging the theory that a meter can track actions within a home without an rf type of transmitter on each outlet and an rf receiver on the smart meter. If you look hard enough online, you can find many theories and conspiracies. But no, I not affiliation with any power associations, I just see so many of these hoaxes on youtube....ever looked up "hydrogen generator" or "perpetual motion machine"? It's easy to get sucked into them though if you want to believe what they are saying.
Im not thinking right lol you i belive what you are saying so im gonna drop it on this maybe it is a hoaxes so you will buy what they have and then they are making lots of money ok thanks for the reply

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

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#14 Nov 23, 2012
mr mackey wrote:
No, I'm not challenging the legality to remove these, but but I am challenging the theory that a meter can track actions within a home without an rf type of transmitter on each outlet and an rf receiver on the smart meter. If you look hard enough online, you can find many theories and conspiracies. But no, I not affiliation with any power associations, I just see so many of these hoaxes on youtube....ever looked up "hydrogen generator" or "perpetual motion machine"? It's easy to get sucked into them though if you want to believe what they are saying.
You mean when Joseph Newman invented a machine which produces its own power? Regardless he deserves a patent so he can succeed or fail.

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#15 Nov 23, 2012
The_SCOOP wrote:
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You mean when Joseph Newman invented a machine which produces its own power? Regardless he deserves a patent so he can succeed or fail.
He deserved more than that for trying to marry a 10 year old child. I thank he was a real con artist - thats my opinion.
mr mackey

Lucedale, MS

#16 Nov 23, 2012
The_SCOOP wrote:
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You mean when Joseph Newman invented a machine which produces its own power? Regardless he deserves a patent so he can succeed or fail.
A patent gives nor takes away a person's right to sell a product of their invention. But no, I wasn't specifically targeting Joseph Newman. If you have some extra time, go to youtube and search perpetual motion machine, you'll see plenty of people that claim they have invented a perpetual motion machine. When in reality, all they are doing is exponentially using more energy than they are "creating" as time passes. It'd be nice if someone were to invent such a device and market it independently. Maybe someday...
Paranoia

Brooklyn, MS

#17 Nov 23, 2012
That meter can't do anything but measure usage. All it knows is amps. It does not know if you are using a washer or what. Just how many amps you are using and when. It lets the power company plan peak grid use hours. The dude that made the video is full of crap and is just preying off paranoid conspiracy nuts. The power company can also tell you to go do yourself and unhook your meter and let you light candles. They dont have to sell you power. As far as radiation those meters put off less than your wifi router.
Some people need to get a life and quit scamming stupid people. It's sure to be a fast track into the pits of Hell for taking advantage of crazy people.

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

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#18 Nov 23, 2012
mr mackey wrote:
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A patent gives nor takes away a person's right to sell a product of their invention. But no, I wasn't specifically targeting Joseph Newman. If you have some extra time, go to youtube and search perpetual motion machine, you'll see plenty of people that claim they have invented a perpetual motion machine. When in reality, all they are doing is exponentially using more energy than they are "creating" as time passes. It'd be nice if someone were to invent such a device and market it independently. Maybe someday...
He never claimed it was, that was propaganda and an excuse for the patent office to refuse him a patent yet other countries did. He proved that it would work. The patent office shouldn't be allowed to refuse anyone a patent regardless of whether it works or not.

“John 3:16”

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#19 Nov 23, 2012
cipsaw wrote:
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He deserved more than that for trying to marry a 10 year old child. I thank he was a real con artist - thats my opinion.
Probably. There have been a few inventors in history that were a bit light in the top. But we still use their bit of ingenuity.

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

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#20 Nov 23, 2012
mr mackey wrote:
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A patent gives nor takes away a person's right to sell a product of their invention. But no, I wasn't specifically targeting Joseph Newman. If you have some extra time, go to youtube and search perpetual motion machine, you'll see plenty of people that claim they have invented a perpetual motion machine. When in reality, all they are doing is exponentially using more energy than they are "creating" as time passes. It'd be nice if someone were to invent such a device and market it independently. Maybe someday...
It just produced more energy than it took to run it, thats all. Motor would have to be replaced after a few years so it was not forever motion, just energy efficient. Bottom line: Give him the patent so he can prove it or not.

“John 3:16”

Since: Sep 09

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#21 Nov 23, 2012
mr mackey wrote:
No, I'm not challenging the legality to remove these, but but I am challenging the theory that a meter can track actions within a home without an rf type of transmitter on each outlet and an rf receiver on the smart meter. If you look hard enough online, you can find many theories and conspiracies. But no, I not affiliation with any power associations, I just see so many of these hoaxes on youtube....ever looked up "hydrogen generator" or "perpetual motion machine"? It's easy to get sucked into them though if you want to believe what they are saying.
You are saying though that the reason for using these is to save money on meter readers and that won't make our bill go up?

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