Empty stores in Lowville...

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boondoggle

Rome, NY

#1 Feb 1, 2009
What can this community do to promote businesses? There are so many vacant buildings. In downtown and the Ames Plaza. Lowville is a great place for education and safe living, but to shop or frequent local businesses...it's not happening!
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#2 Feb 1, 2009
boondoggle wrote:
What can this community do to promote businesses? There are so many vacant buildings. In downtown and the Ames Plaza. Lowville is a great place for education and safe living, but to shop or frequent local businesses...it's not happening!
The small business's don't want new stores. Lowe's was supposed to be coming. Lowville needs more places to eat. When I go to Watertown shopping, half of Lewis County is down there shopping, too. It would be nice to keep the money local.
boondoggle

Rome, NY

#3 Feb 1, 2009
It doesn't necessarily have to be a large store. The problem is that we don't have the variety so people go elsewhere. When it comes to dining out. I agree. It's either fast food, a diner, or the Elks. Your have to be a member or guest to eat at the Elks and then it is only Thurs and Fri nights. I hear the dinners are not the greatest and they always appear short staffed.
Lowville

Rome, NY

#4 Feb 1, 2009
Lowville is becoming a ghost-town. Big deal, we have a Wal-Mart. Don't normals towns with Wally Worlds have an Applebee's near by? Oh yeah, Applebee's took a look at Lowville and realized: oh, just Wal-Mart, no Lowe's, not even an Ames or an IGA...we think not. When Wal-Mart and PnC are you're biggest businesses to shop at, it is pretty sad. Without a bowling alley, ha...this place is a joke. Thank you Legislators, mainly Mr. R0$$(note: I never said any name(s)).
whoknows

AOL

#5 Feb 1, 2009
again its sad to see the Ames and Mcdonald's and Kinney drug store just wasting away. I read on hear the county fixed up the old Kinney's but then didn't use it. If stores aren't interested in coming to town, then the village, town and county should start fixing up some of these buildings already empty and use them for office space etc, where there is no problem with parking. It's just going to waste. I agree with having a nice restaurant, but having tractor trailers parking all night, maybe a gas station and old fashioned all night truck stop diner. At least they would be used for something, Longways seems to do really well, but in Lowville something would be better than nothing. I don't know of any place to eat breakfast all night. Everything closes by midnight I think. Where is the economic developer trying to get these places reused and maybe increase some jobs. Maybe a small start but better than just sitting on the starting line waiting for a flag to be waved.
missy

Fairport, NY

#6 Feb 2, 2009
what about making a skating rink, a bowling alley, or some kind of recreation park there for all the kids to go, I mean think about it all Lowville has or ever had was the ice skating in winter and the bowling alley and to be honest I never felt that children belonged there, I mean come on these kids need a place of there own not frequented by a bunch of drunken fools.
no name

Rome, NY

#7 Feb 2, 2009
I totally agree with missy. My kids are always complaining they are bored on the weekends, but where can we take them? There's nothing.
whoknows

AOL

#8 Feb 2, 2009
I had mentioned before that I thought a roller rink with a juice bar, maybe fries and such for children and families. Someone said it was too far to drive from other towns, but we all have to drive to watertown for anything. I think Ames is the perfect place for a roller rink. I wish I had the means to start a business like that. It would be great for the kids and parents around here. It would definately not be a hang out for people that just want to hang out together though. Paying customers, not just hang and not support the owners.
cdo

Rome, NY

#9 Feb 2, 2009
Lowville wrote:
Lowville is becoming a ghost-town. Big deal, we have a Wal-Mart. Don't normals towns with Wally Worlds have an Applebee's near by? Oh yeah, Applebee's took a look at Lowville and realized: oh, just Wal-Mart, no Lowe's, not even an Ames or an IGA...we think not. When Wal-Mart and PnC are you're biggest businesses to shop at, it is pretty sad. Without a bowling alley, ha...this place is a joke. Thank you Legislators, mainly Mr. R0$$(note: I never said any name(s)).
I agree,my brother came to lowville for the first time in forty years back in the fall.He said it was like a time warp,nothing has changed.I find that to be a shame .We will never prosper as long as our town, is run with conspiracy and coruption its time to rise above their heads and let ther walls of injustice come crashing down.
no name

Rome, NY

#10 Feb 2, 2009
a roller rink would be a great idea or an arcade, anything of that sort. But I'm in total agreement thatanyone hangin' around has to pay. It's too bad we parents couldn't get together and come up with something.
Lowville

Rome, NY

#11 Feb 2, 2009
I'm in my 20s and I remember seeing on tv Happy Days (reruns) and such. What about a type of Arnold's place. Wholesome and for the young. Face it. If you don't have a type of place like that, then where do your kids end up...at the Bowling Allies (now they seem to go to Jebs or Bakers). If your kid is going where booze is served, they'll think it is ok. I'm not sayin it is bad to drink, but for those of you who think it is, then be prepared. But for the parents who have even younger kids, you're basically screwed. And with a growing economical downturn, I don't think Lowville has any plans for really caring about what to do with the kids. Officails only really care about themselves. Ross was so against Wal-Mart if anyone remembers. I remember him saying "Ohhh, traffic on MY road...noooooo!"

Since: Jan 09

AOL

#12 Feb 2, 2009
Yes and I'm sure Ross made the most money out of selling his land to rebuild the road to make it safer. His hill sure looks alot nice than it did when the cows roamed it. I agree with a place that does not serve alcohol, just soda and juices, healthier foods and drinks. You could have nacho's, hot pretzels, popcorn, slush puppies. all sorts of things. But with the economy there are no grants for arcade type businesses, But I would love to see a roller rink type place with pool tables and games too. and Ames would be the ideal location. It would be great if the Economic Developer got a group together to start something like this.
landowner

Watertown, NY

#13 Feb 2, 2009
When I last ontaced he management firm of the Ames laza, as 2 college educated members of my family wanted to have a indoor soccer, etc. place for Lewis County kids(not just Lowville kids), they wanted $25,000.00 per month for rent!!! Not happening here.
Mr Ed

Caroga Lake, NY

#14 Feb 2, 2009
Not much is going to start up in Lowville right now---not with the worst recession in years going on.

Besides, I don't think Lowville is big enough (or Lewis County for that matter) to support a larger national chain type of restaurant like an Applebees, etc. That's why Lowes didn't come here; not a big enough area with enough population.

Because of the lack of stores and variety, people will always go to Watertown to shop---there just isn't enough people here to warrant more stores/businesses.
Not True

Rome, NY

#15 Feb 2, 2009
It is the officails. When you say "No" to a prison moving in here and "No" to a college moving in here...you're just asking to stay small. Like somebody else said earlier, Lowville/Lewis Co. is a living time warp. The only things that are modern is the Wal-Mart, new looking McDonalds, the digital Stewart's sign for gas, the Court House is being remodeled, maybe the school ...oh and the ..what SIX street lights in the County...a whole six? Look it up folks, Lewis and Jefferson Co are 1 square mile bigger than the State of Rhode Island. We're half the size of RI and we've got six street lights a the county seat has just a Wally World to brag about. Our biggest employer...and they got B-ball Bob (good guy...go Steelers)!
Mr Ed

Caroga Lake, NY

#16 Feb 2, 2009
It's a miracle that we even got a Walmart. We went 4 or 5 years without a dept store at ALL.

Lowville wants the mom and pop stores lined up on State Street; like it was years ago when we had Hills Dept Store, Clarkes shoes, Farney's soda shop, Cohans, IGA, etc. There's no parking for that---and no one wants that anyway. Everyone wants malls today.

Since: Nov 08

Lowville

#17 Feb 2, 2009
I guess I grew up bored out of my mind the way think today. As I see it the kids today can do the same thing we did as kids and then some.

We went to the local ball field and started a neighborhood game of baseball, kickball, football (never heard of soccer then). We climbed trees, rode bicycles, played army, hide-and-seek, kick-the-can, flew kites, launched model rockets, hung out, roamed cow pastures, hunted woodchucks, caught frogs, went sliding, snowmobiled (16 hp Ski-Doo), cross-country skied, skating, made up stuff to play.

Amazing we did it without Ipods, cell phones, video games, cable, HD TV, even color tv. We did have little league and high school sports.

Life was simpler and we had to think of something to do or we would be bored. We were not bored.

Get out, don't wait for the grownups to create a skate park etc... Think of something to do and have fun.
localdude

Fort Plain, NY

#18 Feb 2, 2009
Skating rinks and restaurants for kids are great ideas...problem is, they wouldn't succeed. There just aren't enough people in the county to make it work. Something like that will work in watertown because of the population, but not in Lowville. Sorry. Any idea about how much it costs to run a new business these days? Rents are through the roof (ie. the old Ames,Kinny,Mcdonalds stores). Then there are the electric bills, taxes, fees to remodel, etc, etc. Best thing we can do is support those little stores on State Street before they're gone too. Ever been into Wildroot Bookstore?? How about Marguerites? The Farmers Co-op? Mikes Appliances? Did you know that up until this past summer, we had an excellent bakery in town? They made fantastic baked goods..but the town didn't support them. Or atleast there were not enough people to support them. They lasted about 8 months. Applebees would never prosper here. Their prices are too high (or atleast local folks would think so). Stores like Walmart always survive in a town like Lowville. They sell cheap so people shop there. But I must say, is Lowville so bad?? I think not! We're blessed to live in a small town where most (not all) of the residents are decent people with oldtime values. We're better off than most communities across the country too! And we know how to survive a lousy economy..We're always in a lousy economy! But so what? I'd much rather be here than in the city.
boondoggle

Rome, NY

#19 Feb 3, 2009
Lowville could be a great place for our children to grow up. I think that we should lean on the planning board, legislators, county planner, to get more activities, buildings to have activities, etc in Lowville. Sure they o.k. the ATV trails....look how much that cost? It's especially good for one of the legislators that owns a business on those trails...Are they planning for us or benefiting themselves! Who prospers here? Snowmobiling is just in the winter! What about any windmill surplus that we can put to good use for the future of Lowville? Our kids? Culture? Sanity???
Leonidas

Rome, NY

#20 Feb 3, 2009
What would you like the Planning Board to do? Should they change zoning to allow a skating rink in a residential area? I'm failing to see the connection.

The Ames plaza could have been redeveloped on more than one occassion if the owners/managers of the site would be willing to play ball. Tractor Supply would have come in last year, but couldn't get a deal worked in time with Gibralter.

AT $25,000/month, that's pretty expensive office space if you want the county to take over the building.

Lewis Lanes is being rebuilt.

Come up with the capital, and I'm sure you can find somebody to run a roller skating rink for you.

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