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theresa shanley

New York, NY

#1 Dec 14, 2012
I just got in an argument with Mr. Finn yesterday about the over kill of security in schools . but now it will only get worse. If after all our efforts to keep kids in school safe and some thing like this happens anyways what can we do now to prevent it? I know how horrible this is But I still refuse to live my life in fear. its no different the the terrorist attacks in third world countrys . I will choose to continue trust that people can only die when it is their time. that the universe in not just a random collection of coincidences, that things happen for a reason and be great full that the school my children attend is such a good one full of the best people my kids can know.its nuts and this is so bad but you cant hide under a rock you just do the best to keep your kids safe and trust in that your life is in gods hands
ridiculous

New York, NY

#2 Dec 14, 2012
Ahhh yes it was "their time to go"... Coincidentally 20 students from the same Elementary School died in the same day because of carelessness in school security and some psycho idiot that I assume was "sent here" with a purpose of doing just what he did... and ironically enough it was also his time to go since he now fulfilled all of the duties he was meant to. Get out of your bubble and step into the real world... one filled with rapists, murderers, and complete psychos!! You can NEVER be too careful! And if you think security is already too high... check in with the families of the children who are dead right before Christmas and let me know how that turns out for ya!
For real

New York, NY

#3 Dec 14, 2012
ridiculous wrote:
Ahhh yes it was "their time to go"... Coincidentally 20 students from the same Elementary School died in the same day because of carelessness in school security and some psycho idiot that I assume was "sent here" with a purpose of doing just what he did... and ironically enough it was also his time to go since he now fulfilled all of the duties he was meant to. Get out of your bubble and step into the real world... one filled with rapists, murderers, and complete psychos!! You can NEVER be too careful! And if you think security is already too high... check in with the families of the children who are dead right before Christmas and let me know how that turns out for ya!


Agree!!
curious georgina

Ithaca, NY

#4 Dec 14, 2012
ridiculous wrote:
Ahhh yes it was "their time to go"... Coincidentally 20 students from the same Elementary School died in the same day because of carelessness in school security and some psycho idiot that I assume was "sent here" with a purpose of doing just what he did... and ironically enough it was also his time to go since he now fulfilled all of the duties he was meant to. Get out of your bubble and step into the real world... one filled with rapists, murderers, and complete psychos!! You can NEVER be too careful! And if you think security is already too high... check in with the families of the children who are dead right before Christmas and let me know how that turns out for ya!
Well said. Help these simple clowns to understand the new age we live in. We have a duty to protect our children, who are completely defenseless. Challenging the world to "take your best shot" (at the expense of schoolchildren)is a pathetic attempt at trying to sound like a badass. In a school, a gunman can mow kids down like shooting fish in a barrell- theyre all contained in a nice, condensed little space. Look at the entire kindergarten classroom murdered within a few minutes today. What a heartless moron you are Theresa Shanley. Take your tough guy talk about not wanting to sacrifice your precious "personal freedom" and say that shit to the faces of the parents who lost their kids today. I dare you.
theresa shanley

New York, NY

#5 Dec 14, 2012
what was careless how could they have prevented it? please tell me . not let in relatives of students or teachers to the buildings? frisk every one who comes through the doors in ever school across the country all day long like they do when your going into jail to visit an inmate . you could keep your kids home then they would be safe . what do you suggest school should do now. what about the janitors , what if the janitor has a crazy cousin should we not hire any one to work in a school who has relations who are risky. what if one of the teachers goes nuts next time. maybe teachers should be searched each day coming into the building? please let me know because from what I can see schools already do so much . they cant predict and prevent every possible little thing that wrong can they
theresa shanley

New York, NY

#6 Dec 14, 2012
I know they are having a horrible loss in Connecticut . i do know what is like to face on my face at a funeral in despair . but what are we going to do . lock down our children and give them no room to breath just to keep them safe ? like the boy in the bubble ? where do we draw the line between safety and insanity ? are we becoming an agoraphobic society?
theresa shanley

New York, NY

#7 Dec 14, 2012
fall on my face sory
theresa shanley

New York, NY

#8 Dec 14, 2012
yes he hurt many innocent people , I know I must sound like a jerk but I am just contemplating how this will effect every child across the county .I am sure all the rest of the children in the world will have less happy lives now too. because every parent will be that much more protective and school will too and we will end up stifling them and smothering them . but I guess its inevitable
curious georgina

Ithaca, NY

#9 Dec 14, 2012
"what was careless how could they have prevented it? please tell me"

Really, b*tch?? Are you that simple? What was CARELESS about the situation was the fact that an individual entered a school armed with GUNS!! The schools are "already doing so much"....please just stop it. Theyre not doing enough. What kind of mom are you?? Stop acting like youre doing anything noble for your kids by trying to make school be the place that they have to wonder if theyre going to be shot and killed on any given day. Youre a worthless parent to play with your kids heads like that. Your job is to protect them, at all costs. If you cant understand that concept, then perhaps you shouldnt be allowed to have them in your "care".
Your survival of the fittest version of parenting is adorable, but has no place in this topic on preventing guns from making their way into our schools. If youre so inclined to just throw your kids to the wolves, then give them to me. I'll do a better job than you of protecting them, knowing when to let them handle lifes burdens themselves, and when to do MY JOB and keep them safe when theyre basically sitting ducks(in school). Honestly woman- idt youre working with a full deck.
theresa shanley

New York, NY

#10 Dec 14, 2012
I sincerly apologize i was wrong iI am sorry I just assumed all schools have as strict a security system as lowville .
theresa shanley

New York, NY

#11 Dec 14, 2012
I was uninformed
I was wrong

New York, NY

#13 Dec 14, 2012
I know I may have come off as a heartless bitch but I do care its just that i can see Lowville school rolling in the metal detectors and security guards now .
Wench

Ithaca, NY

#14 Dec 14, 2012
curious georgina wrote:
"what was careless how could they have prevented it? please tell me"
Really, b*tch?? Are you that simple? What was CARELESS about the situation was the fact that an individual entered a school armed with GUNS!! The schools are "already doing so much"....please just stop it. Theyre not doing enough. What kind of mom are you?? Stop acting like youre doing anything noble for your kids by trying to make school be the place that they have to wonder if theyre going to be shot and killed on any given day. Youre a worthless parent to play with your kids heads like that. Your job is to protect them, at all costs. If you cant understand that concept, then perhaps you shouldnt be allowed to have them in your "care".
Your survival of the fittest version of parenting is adorable, but has no place in this topic on preventing guns from making their way into our schools. If youre so inclined to just throw your kids to the wolves, then give them to me. I'll do a better job than you of protecting them, knowing when to let them handle lifes burdens themselves, and when to do MY JOB and keep them safe when theyre basically sitting ducks(in school). Honestly woman- idt youre working with a full deck.
I have seen some of your post and you sound like quite a b*tch yourself. Get a life. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I commend Theresa voicing her opinion without hiding behind a computer screen like the rest of us.
Wench

Ithaca, NY

#15 Dec 14, 2012
I was wrong wrote:
I know I may have come off as a heartless bitch but I do care its just that i can see Lowville school rolling in the metal detectors and security guards now .
Having kids, teachers and visitors walk through metal detectors might help, but if someone is going to commit such a tragic act, they're going to find a way one way or another regardless of any security precautions. There's always a back door, window to crawl through, etc. I agree, we shouldn't have to live in fear, but there are just too many psychos out there these days. Having practice runs on what to do in case of an emergency could be helpful.
curious georgina

Ithaca, NY

#16 Dec 14, 2012
Wench wrote:
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I have seen some of your post and you sound like quite a b*tch yourself. Get a life. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I commend Theresa voicing her opinion without hiding behind a computer screen like the rest of us.
Well I dont really give a flying fish sandwich what you think of me, tbh. You go ahead and commmend Theresa for voicing her ignorant opinion, and i'll go ahead and keep being a voice for those murdered babies in Connecticut, as well as all the other kids I would hope my bitchiness protects. Being your friend or liked by you is definitely not a concern for me- the vulnerable children sitting in public schools hoping the adults around them will grow a set and devise a better security plan than the current one are my concern. So suck it.
justajoe

Springfield, NJ

#18 Dec 15, 2012
Well, heres my opinion- there will always be guns. You can outlaw them and only criminals will have them. You must fight fire with fire.
Go to any large bank you will find an armed guard. They are there because the bank, having a large amount of money is a target. Money is replacable life is not.
The scum that shot those children and teachers was obviosly a coward. He targeted the defensless and took his own life before he would have to do battle with our best law enforcement personel.
This seams to always happen. Psyco does his dirty work, then kills himself before the law can get at him. I feel that there should be a couple armed guards at all schools. Aren't our children worth it?
If more law abiding decent people had guns then the scum wouldn't run around doing whatever for 5,10,15 minutes till the law arrived.
Why dont they shoot up a gun range, police station, a diner full of camoflaged men on sunday during deer season?
Why because theyd only get to pull the trigger once.
I was wrong

New York, NY

#19 Dec 15, 2012
cmon man wrote:
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To truly protect them we would have to remove all freedoms! Lock them up in a prison, that way no one can hurt them! What kind of life is that for anyone! Yes it's tragic, but so is life itself! I agree with the bubble post! We should not let society become a bunch of bubble boys!! Also my tale is violent video games! So graphic , a psychotic person would have trouble knowing the difference!! I say eliminate violent video games!!!
this is what I am saying too

I dont want my kids to stop living their lives and fear every day that they are not safe because every day they will be reminded of it at the door when they go into school . i dont want them to be told they cant do any thing fun cause it might give some a chance to kill them
ridiculous

New York, NY

#20 Dec 15, 2012
theresa shanley wrote:
what was careless how could they have prevented it? please tell me . not let in relatives of students or teachers to the buildings? frisk every one who comes through the doors in ever school across the country all day long like they do when your going into jail to visit an inmate . you could keep your kids home then they would be safe . what do you suggest school should do now. what about the janitors , what if the janitor has a crazy cousin should we not hire any one to work in a school who has relations who are risky. what if one of the teachers goes nuts next time. maybe teachers should be searched each day coming into the building? please let me know because from what I can see schools already do so much . they cant predict and prevent every possible little thing that wrong can they
Should we search everyone coming into the school? YES WE SHOULD!
Should we lock schools down like they do jails? YES WE SHOULD!
How many jail shootings do you hear about? So criminals should be safer than students... especially those in KINDERGARTEN?
Why are you so opposed to having very strict security on a school?
You're kids went to a nice school with good people? SO DID THESE KIDS! If the school your children went to GOD FORBID were to have been one with big shootings and your child were found dead, would you brush it off because it was their time to go or go insane wondering how this could be prevented??
Should teachers be searched? YES THEY SHOULD!
They cant predict or prevent anything completely, but they can make a stronger, more effective attempt at it!
Anymore idiotic questions??!!
ridiculous

New York, NY

#21 Dec 15, 2012
I was wrong wrote:
I know I may have come off as a heartless bitch but I do care its just that i can see Lowville school rolling in the metal detectors and security guards now .
And the problem with this would be???!!!
This is what we are trying to tell you... this is what Lowville school needs, just the same as any other school! Tell me something... when you hit that buzzer on the front door (which is not stopping anything while the doors are unlocked for students to enter and exit the building... what happens next? You state what you are there for or something to that effect. Then after you open the door who greets you? No one!You are then free to roam the building if you were to choose to. Thats not enough for me to assume my children are being protected!
maggie

Ithaca, NY

#22 Dec 15, 2012
The guy shot through the glass to get into the school. They did not let him in. Someone, the janitor I think, hit the switch on the PA system so the whole school could hear and be alerted, thus possibly saving many more children.

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