Many Michigan teens will see 70 cent pay increase Friday

Jul 25, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Ann Arbor News

At first, Jim Ball was decidedly unhappy to learn that Friday he'll have to give a government-mandated raise to several members of his teenage staff.

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Alex Nurmikko

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Jul 26, 2009
 
YAY!!! i need money so badly! i have to buy my car feed my daughter and pay my insurance while trying to plan a wedding
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Jul 27, 2009
 
canīt buy gum from that these days..............

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Jul 27, 2009
 
Alex Nurmikko wrote:
YAY!!! i need money so badly! i have to buy my car feed my daughter and pay my insurance while trying to plan a wedding
YAY if your workplace don't cut you or anyone eles from the payroll, u won't be gettin any new help for awhile.
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Aug 23, 2009
 
i think that the minimum wage should be the same for teenagers as it is for adults. no one should get a lesser minimum wage because of their age.
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Aug 23, 2009
 
Lone Goat wrote:
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YAY if your workplace don't cut you or anyone eles from the payroll, u won't be gettin any new help for awhile.
not likely.
a minimum wage increase should be a drop in the bucket.

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Aug 24, 2009
 
right...... you keep tellin yourself that..

but really think about it.... that "drop" in the bucket might cost a few people there jobs... Money is already really tight at 90% of workplaces.
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Aug 25, 2009
 
Lone Goat wrote:
right...... you keep tellin yourself that..
but really think about it.... that "drop" in the bucket might cost a few people there jobs... Money is already really tight at 90% of workplaces.
we need more small businesses. that way, there won't be so many drops in the bucket.

plus, it's a matter of principal. everyone with the same job should be paid an equal rate.

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Aug 26, 2009
 
Idea Maker wrote:
we need more small businesses. that way, there won't be so many drops in the bucket.
when i was talking about drops in the bucket, I was talking about businesses' cost... soo it really won't matter if there were more small businesses.
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plus, it's a matter of principal. everyone with the same job should be paid an equal rate.
If everyone worked 100% equal, that'd make cents...
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Aug 26, 2009
 
Lone Goat wrote:
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when i was talking about drops in the bucket, I was talking about businesses' cost... soo it really won't matter if there were more small businesses.
They need more customers. So less businesses mean more business for the ones left.
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If everyone worked 100% equal, that'd make cents...
In a socialist/communist world everyone would get paid the same.
Lone Goat wrote:
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If everyone worked 100% equal, that'd make cents...
People work at very different levels and are not equal at all, so it would be a cataclysmic failure to attempt to adjust people salaries based on their work output...an employer would have about 740 pay rates at minimum wage, which would fluctuate each day as performance can changes each day.
Lone Goat wrote:
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...talking about drops in the bucket,
I like the song drops of jupiter!

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Aug 27, 2009
 
...i thought u hated it when i replyed to you like that
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They need more customers. So less businesses mean more business for the ones left.
ahh i see the way your lookin at it... kinda dark...
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In a socialist/communist world everyone would get paid the same.
yea... that was the point i was tryin to make... socialist/communist=fail
the issue with that is, why work hard to get ahead when everyone else is just pussin along?
TruthBeTold wrote:
People work at very different levels and are not equal at all, so it would be a cataclysmic failure to attempt to adjust people salaries based on their work output...an employer would have about 740 pay rates at minimum wage, which would fluctuate each day as performance can changes each day.
I don't mean for it to very everyday and for everylast person.. That would be a Fail
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I like the song drops of jupiter!
i heard of it before... can't think of who
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Aug 27, 2009
 
;o)
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Aug 27, 2009
 
Lone Goat wrote:
yea... that was the point i was tryin to make... socialist/communist=fail
the issue with that is, why work hard to get ahead when everyone else is just pussin along?
i'm not talking about everything being perfectly equal. i'm talking about equal OPPORTUNITY, and NOT equal RESULTS.

my point is, no one should be paid less than a standard minimum wage. there should not be a lower minimum wage for a particular segment of employable society.

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Aug 28, 2009
 
Idea Maker wrote:
...my point is, no one should be paid less than a standard minimum wage. there should not be a lower minimum wage for a particular segment of employable society.
/agree, to a point

the real question.. What should minimum wage be? how much is to much?
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Aug 29, 2009
 
Lone Goat wrote:
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the real question.. What should minimum wage be? how much is to much?
that, i do not know. i just believe that the minimum wage should be the same for everyone.

the youth minimum wage can be raised to match the adult minimum wage. OR, the adult minimum wage can be LOWERED to match the youth minimum wage. either way, the minimum wage is equal.

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Aug 31, 2009
 
Idea Maker wrote:
...i just believe that the minimum wage should be the same for everyone.
the youth minimum wage can be raised to match the adult minimum wage. OR, the adult minimum wage can be LOWERED to match the youth minimum wage. either way, the minimum wage is equal.
The only issue i have with that is the youth minimum wage isn't meant to try to support living. by that i mean for the most part, there at home still with mom and/or dad.
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Lone Goat wrote:
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The only issue i have with that is the youth minimum wage isn't meant to try to support living. by that i mean for the most part, there at home still with mom and/or dad.
here's a thought. parents can insist that their teenagers get a job, and pay for some of their own expenses. that will save mom and dad some money.

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Idea Maker wrote:
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here's a thought. parents can insist that their teenagers get a job, and pay for some of their own expenses. that will save mom and dad some money.
thats up to the parents...

soo what should it be then?
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Sep 8, 2009
 
Lone Goat wrote:
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thats up to the parents.
of coarse it is.

and the youth minimum wage can be raised to the adult minimum wage, because some parents would want to do this (among other reasons).

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Sep 9, 2009
 
Idea Maker wrote:
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of coarse it is.
and the youth minimum wage can be raised to the adult minimum wage, because some parents would want to do this (among other reasons).
Then again were back to the point, less teens would be working if that would come to law

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