Flagman hit by vehicle

A worker holding a "Stop/Slow" sign is in serious condition after being hit by a car around 9 a.m. Tuesday. Full Story
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Battle Creek Mom

Clarklake, MI

#22 Oct 15, 2008
Turf wrote:
ok guys...I am a road worker......have done flagwork MANY times....2 outa 3 people are on the phone.very scarey! Signs were posted..people were working hoping to go home safe and healthy. It's on my mind EVERY day. If the person was going to a funeral I feel for him and his family. that IS NOT AN EXCUSE for hitting a road worker......a FACT stating going to a funeral was posted .....implying that FACT makes it ok!!!!!!!! I pray for the person hit.....hang in there.
I am praying for the man hit as well as the man driving! Don't imply that I do not care for workers! I have the utmost respect for workers putting their lives at risk daily. BUT...if the consequence of this situation is the driver going to jail...as some other people commenting have suggested...they are wrong. They don't have the FACTS. Let's pray for them all (men and families)and not blow this out of proportion and assume that the driver was acting irresponsible. We have ALL made split second driving errors. Some have had consequences such as this situation and others have left no marks...just close calls.

This situation has the potential (due to the new laws) to turn out horribly wrong for a family. It could be yours...think about it.
The Cheese

Flint, MI

#23 Oct 15, 2008
I drive 80 miles a day (40 each way) to and from work, mostly interstate. You don't know how many people I have seen that completely ignore construction zone signs, and don't slow down unless they are forced to by someone else ahead of them doing so. Everyone is in too big of a hurry to get where they are going, not be late for work, etc. and in the process, they (unfortunately) are blind to the fact that they are making a decision that amounts to an extra 1-2 minutes of time vs. the possible life/health of a construction worker.

No matter how this particular incident occurred, I urge everyone to slow down to that 60mph (or 45 when workers present, or whatever the posted construction-zone limit happens to be), and exercise a little bit of old-fashioned patience. It sure beats a lifetime of guilt, a $7,000 fine, and 10-15 years in jail.
kourtny basinger

Grand Rapids, MI

#24 Oct 16, 2008
this happened in front of my house where i live with 6 kids. i do not let them play in the front yard because of the speeding that goes on in this area. its only 100 feet to the stop sign and people still fly by going way to fast. i would like to petition the township to make the speed limit 25 mph in this stretch of road!

Since: Jul 08

North of GR

#25 Oct 16, 2008
My prayers go out to all invovled and their families. Accidents happen and change lives every day.
MIchelle

Grandville, MI

#26 Oct 16, 2008
A Brother wrote:
It should be the same reaction as if either man was your brother. You have to feel bad for both of these men. The one didn't go to work intending to get hit, just like the one driving didn't intend to hit someone. It was an accident.
I pray that both men and families recover from this terrible accident.
AMEN!! Very well said. All involved are in my thoughts and prayers. Accidents happen and people get hurt. My nephew was killed in a accident. Do I hate the person driving the other car that hit him head on. Absolutely not!!! I prayed for him. Accidents do happen. It's not like people get behind the wheel thinking in their minds "Hey, I think I'll hit or try to take someone out today."
MIchelle

Grandville, MI

#27 Oct 16, 2008
Battle Creek Mom wrote:
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I pray for both...not passing judgment on either. Is it too much to ask for a little compassion on BOTH sides?
Not at all. Compassion should be shown to both sides. One thing you'll learn if you frequent these forums is most people are out to cast blame and make alot of assumptions. Everyone has their right to their own opinion and should be able to express how they feel. Try not to take so much of the comments to heart. There are always alot of what if, could have, should have, would have's when accidents occur and usually there never are any answers to all those.
choose or lose

Grand Rapids, MI

#28 Oct 17, 2008
kourtny basinger wrote:
this happened in front of my house where i live with 6 kids. i do not let them play in the front yard because of the speeding that goes on in this area. its only 100 feet to the stop sign and people still fly by going way to fast. i would like to petition the township to make the speed limit 25 mph in this stretch of road!
Thats a hard thing to get to pass. Good luck:)

“Ready For The Apocalypse!”

Since: Jul 08

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#29 Oct 17, 2008
kourtny basinger wrote:
this happened in front of my house where i live with 6 kids. i do not let them play in the front yard because of the speeding that goes on in this area. its only 100 feet to the stop sign and people still fly by going way to fast. i would like to petition the township to make the speed limit 25 mph in this stretch of road!
If you were able to get it passed, they would still have to enforce it, which is another problem.

“Ready For The Apocalypse!”

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#30 Oct 17, 2008
Ursula K Raphael wrote:
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I've seen people do some seriously reckless driving right in front of police (ex: car rear ends another car at a red light, and pushes the front car into intersection), and the cops don't pull them over. Maybe they are just writing down license plate numbers and mailing tickets??
Oh! But watch out if you aren't wearing your seatbelt!!
Thanks for the clueless and nuts votes, but I'm not exaggerating. If you find it hard to believe, imagine how I felt when I called 911 to report the incident. I told her that someone deliberately pushed another vehicle, stopped at a red light, into an intersection. There was a cop car at the intersection that did not repond, but I thought dispatch could radio them to do something. I gave the license plate number, description of the car, and the direction it was heading, and the dispatcher told me that if none of the cross-trafic hit the pushed car, they couldn't do anything about it. I also mentioned other details, like the driver and his buddy looked high out of their minds...

That was the only time I felt it was bad enough to call 911. I've called the non-emergency number for state police two other times...once was when some teens in car were throwing food items at the windshields of nearby cars (while we were all stuck in slow-moving traffic, so there was no where to go)- whatever they were throwing was splattering bad enough to make visiblity impossible, and wipers couldn't get it off.

The other time was when some kids were throwing rocks off an overpass.

All three times, I was able to provide details, and all three times, I was told that I shouldn't call unless someone was injured or killed.

In another thread, I mentioned that I reported shots fired (to a non-emergency number), and, in that instance, the dispatcher asked me why I was calling...I guess because I hadn't actually seen anyone get shot.

All of those calls were far apart over the past three years, just so you don't think I'm the busybody who gets off calling the police...but I was given the definite impression that unless I witness someone being injured or killed, I shouldn't bother calling the police...so I don't anymore.
Friend of the driver

Grand Rapids, MI

#31 Oct 24, 2008
I understand the outrage that some of you feel, if I didn't know the driver and his wife exceptionally well, I must admit, I'd probably fee the same. Knowing this man as I do, this is so hard to imagine, and I know they are literally sick about it. Please not only pray for the worker and his family, but find it in your heart to lift up the driver, his awesome wife and their 5 young children. This is devastating to them as well.
KSQ from MP

Grand Rapids, MI

#32 Nov 27, 2008
Battle Creek Mom wrote:
Put yourself in the driver's seat for a minute. You are on your way down a road with a large truck in front of you. You've taken the day off of work to go to a family event, let's just say a funeral. There is a large vehicle, well, let's just take a stab in the dark and say a truck, in front of you. You are not speeding, you are not touching anything but the steering wheel. Oh, you don't even have a cell phone on you today. At the last second you see the truck swerve and you wonder what is going on as you see a man in orange in front of you. You swerve but unfortunetly he jumps the same way you swerve at the same time you do.
Just suppose the driver doesn't have any prior accidents or tickets.
Now suppose it is your spouse driving. Should the driver pay for what he did...? Maybe a fine...but jail??? How will you live? What about all of your children? Your sons? Your daughters? How many lives should we ruin with an unfortunate accident?
GET the FACTS before you condem someone to stiff fines and jail time. Really...
Are you kidding me right now? The worker that got hit was my best friend, and weather or not it was an accident, the ass hole who hit him should pay. That man is walking around on his legs, doesn't require 24 hour care from nurses and doctors, can go home to his family every night, and probably got to eat a nice thanksgiving dinner with his family today. My friend can do none of these things. This accident is going to effect him the rest of his life. How about the man who hit him. Sure he may be fined a small amount or go to jail for a little while, but is this really going to effect every minute of the rest of his life like it is my friend. Yes, it was an accident, but this man should pay dearly. If he even knew the pain and suffering all of his family and I have gone through the last two months, including all the pain and close to death experiences my friend has gone through, maybe he would start paying attention when there are signs warning of workers approaching, or maybe watch for traffic directors on the side of the road. I am sorry to hear that this man lost someone in his family, but it is absolutely no excuse for almost making someone else end up dead that day. Actions have consequences, that is a fact of life. No matter how much trouble this guy gets in, it is not long enough in my opinion. This guy should get his license taken away for the rest of his life, at bare minimum.

Since: Oct 08

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#33 Nov 27, 2008
KSQ from MP wrote:
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Are you kidding me right now? The worker that got hit was my best friend, and weather or not it was an accident, the **** hole who hit him should pay. That man is walking around on his legs, doesn't require 24 hour care from nurses and doctors, can go home to his family every night, and probably got to eat a nice thanksgiving dinner with his family today. My friend can do none of these things. This accident is going to effect him the rest of his life. How about the man who hit him. Sure he may be fined a small amount or go to jail for a little while, but is this really going to effect every minute of the rest of his life like it is my friend. Yes, it was an accident, but this man should pay dearly. If he even knew the pain and suffering all of his family and I have gone through the last two months, including all the pain and close to death experiences my friend has gone through, maybe he would start paying attention when there are signs warning of workers approaching, or maybe watch for traffic directors on the side of the road. I am sorry to hear that this man lost someone in his family, but it is absolutely no excuse for almost making someone else end up dead that day. Actions have consequences, that is a fact of life. No matter how much trouble this guy gets in, it is not long enough in my opinion. This guy should get his license taken away for the rest of his life, at bare minimum.
I hope you never have an "accident". I'm sorry for your friend, and his family, that really sucks that he's that messed up, but accidents happen. What do you do if your child brakes your favorite vase, tie them to the wiping pole? This was a job hazard injury, I'm sure there's someone to sue on that end.

Since: Jul 08

North of GR

#34 Dec 9, 2008
KSQ from MP wrote:
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Are you kidding me right now? The worker that got hit was my best friend, and weather or not it was an accident, the **** hole who hit him should pay. That man is walking around on his legs, doesn't require 24 hour care from nurses and doctors, can go home to his family every night, and probably got to eat a nice thanksgiving dinner with his family today. My friend can do none of these things. This accident is going to effect him the rest of his life. How about the man who hit him. Sure he may be fined a small amount or go to jail for a little while, but is this really going to effect every minute of the rest of his life like it is my friend. Yes, it was an accident, but this man should pay dearly. If he even knew the pain and suffering all of his family and I have gone through the last two months, including all the pain and close to death experiences my friend has gone through, maybe he would start paying attention when there are signs warning of workers approaching, or maybe watch for traffic directors on the side of the road. I am sorry to hear that this man lost someone in his family, but it is absolutely no excuse for almost making someone else end up dead that day. Actions have consequences, that is a fact of life. No matter how much trouble this guy gets in, it is not long enough in my opinion. This guy should get his license taken away for the rest of his life, at bare minimum.
We are all sorry for the pain on both sides of this incident but before you start calling names and assume what was seen by the driver you should first know who you are talking about and have a visual yourself, and it is obvious you have no clue. I am sure everyone of your friends and family members are thankful for life and you should focus on that. I know there is pain also on the other side and no matter what you think this IS a life altering event on all sides...not just yours. And you'd know that if you knew who you were talking about.

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