Conflicting pictures of alleged Lowell attackers

There are 20 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Jan 3, 2011, titled Conflicting pictures of alleged Lowell attackers. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Danny Nguyen is afraid it's not over. "We're scared they'll come back," he said yesterday in front of the Grand Street house where Corinna Ouer, 20, was shot to death Saturday morning by two young men who had been turned away from a New Year's Eve party.

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Mimi

Raleigh, NC

#41 Jan 4, 2011
"You gotta think if this happened back in his home country we wouldn`t be talking about this now.In his country man rules there, woman are not allowed to backtalk. We have to understand the cultural difference is different there then here in lowell. In his country a cow has more value than a female"

First off, they are Cambodian, not Indian. Second, he was probably born in this country, so the US is his 'home country.' Cultural differences are NOT the problem. It is poverty, alcohol and drug abuse, gangs, and lack of family support. As a former teacher in Lowell and on Native American reservations, I have seen that poverty is a motivating factor in motivating factor in most crimes. Kids don't know they have another choice, and the money they make in drugs is more than anything they will make working at Walmart. The sense of family they get from gangs is much stronger than anything they get at home from parents traumatized by their own past.
Buddy Wiser

Lowell, MA

#42 Jan 4, 2011
Hey Dracut Dad, I'm pretty sure your daughters had a few drinks or better yet coke. Should I take a pic of it with my iPhone next time? Hell, my first drink was when I was 12 in Dublin. Why don't you look up some statistics of underage drinking in the US and other countries. Try FB!
"There" sure is a lot of scum around this here parts, so should get a 24 pack of scrub free bathroom cleaner, Super DAD-IN-DENIAL of the year.
Supreme Noah

Lowell, MA

#43 Jan 4, 2011
Native Indians of all the tribes and Africans should put Americans to trial for all their crimes, so where is the justice? If you can charge someone for a crime that happened 10, 30, 60 years ago why not 200 or 300? Might as well try the CIA for their role in the coup état in Cambodia. It's karma, it's life. Two words, Wall Street. Why not throw these crooks behind bars.

All these moot point comments are time wasters.

Also UTEC, doesn't seem like they are doing much. Looking for a job? If the kid likes guns so much, why not enlist him in the military. It seems to me like he was just some number you can put in your file where you can say you had attempted to help to meet your quota. Disband, reform, and start over because it's not working.
booboo

Boston, MA

#44 Jan 4, 2011
i don't see the big deal people die every day
Dracut dad

Lowell, MA

#45 Jan 4, 2011
dracut mom wrote:
those parents should be in big trouble for allowing kids to drink under the age of 21
i am white if it was me allowing that i would have been arrested... what do those parents say
I didn't know??? they get away with it
if it was me it would be front page news
with my picture that i allowed kids to drink
see how they get away with murder
Right On!
Seriously

Marblehead, MA

#46 Jan 4, 2011
Obviously he did not REALLY want to change his life or he would not have made the decision to go and retrieve a gun with the intention of going back to the party to shoot people. If he is your definition of a "good" person then I would hate to see what your definition of a "bad" person is.
Political Correct

Shelburne, VT

#47 Jan 4, 2011
who cares!
LeeKelly

Lowell, MA

#48 Jan 4, 2011
Do yourself and your family a favor. Learn to speak and write using standard English. It is the language of the market economy, and as such, is the only way for you to make a living so the rest of us won't have to support you forever.
lmfao wrote:
Everyone juss keep calm by this weekend they'll be another story. And every1 can put their 2 cent racist comment on this post. Really no care wat u and ur race gotta say....juss kick back and enjoy the news this is everyday life in lowell. If ur not from another here I suggest u use u words carefully......I jus love it wen they say these punks think their tough send them over seas...in that case send every1 in the jail system over seas. The fuckers that started the war was rich old white folks send their fat lazy asses over seas ...and send our young people back......and don't forget the soilder that went over sea they are being paid pretty good that's y they went not because of patriotism...if they are real patriot take care of ur own country cuz as u all kno u.s got major issue itself.....thanks to the 2bush that started the war over oil...and left the issue to obama thksu dicks
mukapoo

Naples, FL

#49 Jan 4, 2011
Thanx ted kennedy, Y.F.P.O.S!!!!!
Old White guy

Westford, MA

#50 Jan 4, 2011
lmfao wrote:
Everyone juss keep calm by this weekend they'll be another story. And every1 can put their 2 cent racist comment on this post. Really no care wat u and ur race gotta say....juss kick back and enjoy the news this is everyday life in lowell. If ur not from another here I suggest u use u words carefully......I jus love it wen they say these punks think their tough send them over seas...in that case send every1 in the jail system over seas. The fuckers that started the war was rich old white folks send their fat lazy asses over seas ...and send our young people back......and don't forget the soilder that went over sea they are being paid pretty good that's y they went not because of patriotism...if they are real patriot take care of ur own country cuz as u all kno u.s got major issue itself.....thanks to the 2bush that started the war over oil...and left the issue to obama thksu dicks
Your right! If it wasn't for the rich old white man,your so ass would still be in Cambodia,or Viet Nam.
You are always free to leave the U.S.

By the way,as another poster commented, you sure didn't learn much if you ever went to school. Learn how to put sentences and paragraphs with capitals together. You make a fool of yourself
Huh

Dracut, MA

#51 Jan 4, 2011
Why ask Why wrote:
Thanks for letting them into Lowell, These people come from a different world. I believe the term is 3rd world.
They contribute nothing to society.
Stick your nose out of our city's business, you racist.

Like any other ethnic group, southeast Asians has its bad apples too. Whites commit more crimes in Lowell than Asians do, it's a fact you can look up in any city report.

Take a look at yesterday's arrest log and see how many whites from Lowell had been arrested, and it's the same DAY AFTER DAY!

Billerica

-- Kurt Schutz, 41, 173 Branch St., Lowell; operating with license suspended.

-- Kenneth Moody, 61, 1034 Gorham St., Lowell; operating with license suspended/revoked (subsequent offense), warrant.

Lowell

-- Cheryl Magiera, 48, 83 Fourth St.; disturbing the peace.

-- Jose Ramos, 26, 5 Dublin St.; domestic assault and battery.

-- Michael Curtis, 31, 54 Tower Farm Road; possession of a class A substance.

-- Rafael Rodriguez, 21, 68 Water St., Unit 3; possession of a class B substance with intent to distribute, distribution of a class B substance, operating after suspension.

-- Lizah Kangogo, 25, 569 Lakeview Ave., Unit 3; domestic assault and battery.

-- William Clegg, 33, 201 Appleton St., Unit 6; domestic assault and battery, unarmed robbery.

-- Brandy Pelechowicz, 28, 15 West Fifth St., Unit 18; shoplifting.

-- Abraham Dualu, 32, 143 Coburn St.; operating after revocation, failing to submit motor vehicle for inspection, operating without registration in possession.
Culture Celebrator

Lowell, MA

#52 Jan 4, 2011
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>
Stick your nose out of our city's business, you racist.
Like any other ethnic group, southeast Asians has its bad apples too. Whites commit more crimes in Lowell than Asians do, it's a fact you can look up in any city report.
Take a look at yesterday's arrest log and see how many whites from Lowell had been arrested, and it's the same DAY AFTER DAY!
Billerica
-- Kurt Schutz, 41, 173 Branch St., Lowell; operating with license suspended.
-- Kenneth Moody, 61, 1034 Gorham St., Lowell; operating with license suspended/revoked (subsequent offense), warrant.
Lowell
-- Cheryl Magiera, 48, 83 Fourth St.; disturbing the peace.
-- Jose Ramos, 26, 5 Dublin St.; domestic assault and battery.
-- Michael Curtis, 31, 54 Tower Farm Road; possession of a class A substance.
-- Rafael Rodriguez, 21, 68 Water St., Unit 3; possession of a class B substance with intent to distribute, distribution of a class B substance, operating after suspension.
-- Lizah Kangogo, 25, 569 Lakeview Ave., Unit 3; domestic assault and battery.
-- William Clegg, 33, 201 Appleton St., Unit 6; domestic assault and battery, unarmed robbery.
-- Brandy Pelechowicz, 28, 15 West Fifth St., Unit 18; shoplifting.
-- Abraham Dualu, 32, 143 Coburn St.; operating after revocation, failing to submit motor vehicle for inspection, operating without registration in possession.
Somehow I don't see the ethnicity listed next to each entry, Am I missing something?
Rights

Amherst, MA

#53 Jan 4, 2011
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>
Stick your nose out of our city's business, you racist.
Like any other ethnic group, southeast Asians has its bad apples too. Whites commit more crimes in Lowell than Asians do, it's a fact you can look up in any city report.
Take a look at yesterday's arrest log and see how many whites from Lowell had been arrested, and it's the same DAY AFTER DAY!
Billerica
-- Kurt Schutz, 41, 173 Branch St., Lowell; operating with license suspended.
-- Kenneth Moody, 61, 1034 Gorham St., Lowell; operating with license suspended/revoked (subsequent offense), warrant.
Lowell
-- Cheryl Magiera, 48, 83 Fourth St.; disturbing the peace.
-- Jose Ramos, 26, 5 Dublin St.; domestic assault and battery.
-- Michael Curtis, 31, 54 Tower Farm Road; possession of a class A substance.
-- Rafael Rodriguez, 21, 68 Water St., Unit 3; possession of a class B substance with intent to distribute, distribution of a class B substance, operating after suspension.
-- Lizah Kangogo, 25, 569 Lakeview Ave., Unit 3; domestic assault and battery.
-- William Clegg, 33, 201 Appleton St., Unit 6; domestic assault and battery, unarmed robbery.
-- Brandy Pelechowicz, 28, 15 West Fifth St., Unit 18; shoplifting.
-- Abraham Dualu, 32, 143 Coburn St.; operating after revocation, failing to submit motor vehicle for inspection, operating without registration in possession.
I agree. Every race has it's bad apples. People who put those racist comments on this post are nothing more than bigots. They have no reason or logic to what they post. It's the 21st century they should know by now not to jugde people by race. Unless, thier uneducated, that is.
Lowell sux

Dracut, MA

#54 Jan 5, 2011
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>
Stick your nose out of our city's business, you racist.
Like any other ethnic group, southeast Asians has its bad apples too. Whites commit more crimes in Lowell than Asians do, it's a fact you can look up in any city report.
Take a look at yesterday's arrest log and see how many whites from Lowell had been arrested, and it's the same DAY AFTER DAY!
Billerica
-- Kurt Schutz, 41, 173 Branch St., Lowell; operating with license suspended.
-- Kenneth Moody, 61, 1034 Gorham St., Lowell; operating with license suspended/revoked (subsequent offense), warrant.
Lowell
-- Cheryl Magiera, 48, 83 Fourth St.; disturbing the peace.
-- Jose Ramos, 26, 5 Dublin St.; domestic assault and battery.
-- Michael Curtis, 31, 54 Tower Farm Road; possession of a class A substance.
-- Rafael Rodriguez, 21, 68 Water St., Unit 3; possession of a class B substance with intent to distribute, distribution of a class B substance, operating after suspension.
-- Lizah Kangogo, 25, 569 Lakeview Ave., Unit 3; domestic assault and battery.
-- William Clegg, 33, 201 Appleton St., Unit 6; domestic assault and battery, unarmed robbery.
-- Brandy Pelechowicz, 28, 15 West Fifth St., Unit 18; shoplifting.
-- Abraham Dualu, 32, 143 Coburn St.; operating after revocation, failing to submit motor vehicle for inspection, operating without registration in possession.
Yes, every ethnicity has bad apples. But let's compare, shall we?

Non-asian:

-- Kurt Schutz, 41, 173 Branch St., Lowell; operating with license suspended.

-- Kenneth Moody, 61, 1034 Gorham St., Lowell; operating with license suspended/revoked (subsequent offense), warrant.

Asian:

--Jameson Phoun, 20, of 32 Hillcrest Drive, Lowell; Murder

--Sothy Voeun, 19, who lists addresses at 48 Temple St., second floor, and 52 Temple St., in Lowell; Murder

Looks like some apples are worse than others, no?
DracutDad

Bronx, NY

#55 Jan 5, 2011
Buddy Wiser wrote:
Hey Dracut Dad, I'm pretty sure your daughters had a few drinks or better yet coke. Should I take a pic of it with my iPhone next time? Hell, my first drink was when I was 12 in Dublin. Why don't you look up some statistics of underage drinking in the US and other countries. Try FB!
"There" sure is a lot of scum around this here parts, so should get a 24 pack of scrub free bathroom cleaner, Super DAD-IN-DENIAL of the year.
Not sure if you are replying to me (DracutDad) or the other Dracut Dad but sure my kids were drinking before they turned 21. Big difference is they were doing it in college or some party in the woods and never killed anyone. The "scum" was directed at he killing. Go have another drink.
Very Angry Person

Lowell, MA

#56 Jan 5, 2011
A Very Proud American wrote:
<quoted text>I am wondering the same thing. How about a report on the past 10 years of crimes in Lowell & Lawrence, gun crime/murders/home invasions - BY ETHNIC Group. Then the FACTS might bear some light as to "gang members" of which ethnic group. As for "their homeland" - at 19-20 years old I hardly believe they are foreign land born. Most likely their parents are but as for these criminals (that's what they are)they may well have been born in the USA, unfortunately! Instead of realizing what an opportunity they have being here they perpetrate heinous crimes - how disgusting!
Excuse you, it is not all of us who are gang related. Yes unfortunately, our families did come here to create a better future for their kids and some kids go rotten, but let me say this nice and clearly, Just because of others peoples crimes, all of you people should not be discriminating all of us as a whole. When we see crimes of other "ethnic groups" we do not say how all you people are disgusting. I am only 22 years and even i know better not to be disrespectful to an entire ethnic group. DISCRIMINATION!
booboo

Boston, MA

#57 Jan 5, 2011
Very Angry Person wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse you, it is not all of us who are gang related. Yes unfortunately, our families did come here to create a better future for their kids and some kids go rotten, but let me say this nice and clearly, Just because of others peoples crimes, all of you people should not be discriminating all of us as a whole. When we see crimes of other "ethnic groups" we do not say how all you people are disgusting. I am only 22 years and even i know better not to be disrespectful to an entire ethnic group. DISCRIMINATION!
unfortunately your parents failed miserably at providing a better life, the only god asians in lowell are the ones who run the viet thai
Lowell Resident

Lowell, MA

#58 Jan 5, 2011
Lowell sux wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, every ethnicity has bad apples. But let's compare, shall we?
Non-asian:
-- Kurt Schutz, 41, 173 Branch St., Lowell; operating with license suspended.
-- Kenneth Moody, 61, 1034 Gorham St., Lowell; operating with license suspended/revoked (subsequent offense), warrant.
Asian:
--Jameson Phoun, 20, of 32 Hillcrest Drive, Lowell; Murder
--Sothy Voeun, 19, who lists addresses at 48 Temple St., second floor, and 52 Temple St., in Lowell; Murder
Looks like some apples are worse than others, no?
If memory serves correctly, Steven Spader and his friends were white. Sure, they lived in southern NH and not Lowell, but what they did was attrocious by any accounts. We could go on and on about this. the fact is, if you think this violent act occurred because he was Asian, then the solution to eliminating violence would be, remove all Asians right? You and everyone else on here know that violence would continue. The problem with false premises is that they result in failed solutions. More importantly, the bigotry and arrogrance presented by white residents in Lowell over this issue will do nothing to contribute to any meaningful dialogue ob gang and youth violence in the city.
Lowell Resident

Lowell, MA

#61 Jan 5, 2011
Broke wrote:
<quoted text>
Lowell being a broke city as it is will lose millions in revenue from asian businesses and factory jobs will lose massive workforce from jobs that ordinary Americans don't want to do. Also, half the city will be empty since asian make up one third of the population, that doesn't do well for the already depress real estate market.
That makes too much sense for a simple minded bigot. Anybody who shares the poster's thoughts doesn't have that type of long-range perspective.
World

Quincy, MA

#62 Jan 5, 2011
Why ask Why wrote:
Thanks for letting them into Lowell, These people come from a different world. I believe the term is 3rd world.
They contribute nothing to society.
If you know your history, Cambodia was once a mighty empire and an advance civilization filled with rich culture. The city of Angkor is a testiment to this fact. The country experienced thousands of years of peace until the Vietnamese war and communism came into play and it went back to year zero. This gang culture was actually introduced to them here in the states. I guess they were easily influenced and think their blacks.

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