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There are 55 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Sep 2, 2011, titled Four Arrested in Louisa County Football Field Vandalism - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sp.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Louisa County High School reported that their football field was vandalized overnight September 1-2, 2011.

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Misdemeanor

Charlottesville, VA

#22 Sep 9, 2011
Ill wrote:
Police were obviously keen to find whoever was responsible.
You really believe that? The kids brag to a few friends. One of these friends tattles to a teacher or parent. The teacher or parent tells the principal what he has heard. The principal calls the police and tells them he knows who they need to question. The police jerk one of them in and he tattles on all his accomplices. The vast majority of crimes are solved by citizen input.
Louisa Parent

AOL

#23 Sep 9, 2011
Ill wrote:
It's woth bearing in mind that these kids haven't been found guilty of anything yet. Police were obviously keen to find whoever was responsible. The court decides if they got the right kids, not NBC.
If these were the kids, I suspect they'll have more to fear from their parents than from the courts. Per the code above, it looks like they can pay restitution and, if Louisa are gracious enough and the court agrees, the charges can be dismissed.
I'd imagine as the parents are probably incurring lawyers fees and trying to find $1,000 to send to Louisa, these kids are probably facing the music at home and will be for quite some time.
To add to the prvious post.....I did read on a previous blog on same story a day or so ago where an obvious Orange supporter asked the question sort of like this 'Why are they not getting any credit for turning theirselves in?' Not saying it is fact, but at least one person has stated that at least one of them turned theirselves in......and wonders why they are not getting creidt for doing so.
Misdemeanor

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Sep 9, 2011
Louisa Parent wrote:
<quoted text>
.... at least one of them turned theirselves in......
Wouldn't surprise me if this is true. When you have a small group of people involved in a crime, one always gets scared and turns themself in with hopes of cutting a deal with the commonwealth if he/she testifies against the others.
Pete

United States

#25 Sep 9, 2011
Corey James Oakes, 18, of Ratliff Lane in Rhoadesville

Michael Dow, 18, of Gold Dale Road in Locust Grove

The 2/17-year-old males identities were not released because of their age.

Punk a55 thugs.
A family friend

United States

#26 Sep 9, 2011
See, all you people think that this is so bad, but how do you know the boys knew about the damages to the school? It's a football thing and louisa has done this to orange's field before a game. This isn't that big of a deal and everyone is going crazy over a stupid high school thing that shouldn't be that big and these boys realize that what they did was wrong and it was stupid. None of the four boys were even aware that louisa had suffered horrible aftermath of the earthquake. And when they were told, they felt awful. It was just four teenage boys being teenage boys and i'm sure if some of you commenting this have a teenage boy, maybe you should stop and think a little more. None of them thought this was going to be a huge deal and they all regret it terribly. You people don't know these kids lives, and what they are going through now is enough of a punishment. It's sad that a community has nothing better to do but harp on four young boys just being stupid young boys. We were all kids once. We all do stupid things. And i'm sure they will learn from this situation.
Louisa Parent

AOL

#27 Sep 9, 2011
A family friend wrote:
See, all you people think that this is so bad, but how do you know the boys knew about the damages to the school? None of the four boys were even aware that louisa had suffered horrible aftermath of the earthquake. And when they were told, they felt awful.
I am not even sure where to begin with this nonsense! Since there is so much of it.....I will try to go slow and spell out how ridiculous it sounds:

1) Both of our communities suffered an EARTHQUAKE on August 23...it was announced over and over and over on every news station for miles around, facebook, newspapers, etc.....from that very day that the Louisa County High School had major damage...it was then announced in all of those places over and over again 3 days later that the High School had severe damage and was unable to be used for this school year and possibily ever....that was a full 7 days before this CRIME (yes, I said crime...not prank...because that was what it was) was committed....and you want me to believe that in those 10 days, not 1 of the 4 individuals....young adults, 17 & 18 years old...had any idea about the damage or the school being closed...I call BS, Lady! In this day in age of technology, FB, word of mouth, etc.....that is just not a LOGICAL explanation or excuse....and you sound ridiculous to say it! Even the Superintendent of OCPS said the foloowing in YOUR newspaper:

""This [was] an emotional game," Grimesey said. "It [was] the largest gathering since the earthquake and it should have been a time of healing."
He said legal action will be pursued, along with disciplinary action for any students involved.
"This won't be tolerated," he said.

Since he said that, and knew about the damage....do you think it is much of a stretch to believe that the Orange football coach was in the same mindset and expressed that to the team while practicing....which would have included at least 1 of those boys as I understand the news to say at least one played football in The Jungle last Friday night?.....I was born at night, but not last night sister....again I will call BS!

Finally, to that same point, I will only say that if they TRULY had no idea that the situation at LCHS was so serious.....maybe all of the yellow crime tape that is still all over the place to keep people safe and out of areas where they could get hurt RIGHT NEXT to where they committed their CRIME should have given them a CLUE before they climbed a fence and destroyed property!
Louisa Parent

AOL

#28 Sep 9, 2011
A family friend wrote:
It's a football thing and louisa has done this to orange's field before a game. This isn't that big of a deal and everyone is going crazy over a stupid high school thing that shouldn't be that big and these boys realize that what they did was wrong and it was stupid. It was just four teenage boys being teenage boys and i'm sure if some of you commenting this have a teenage boy, maybe you should stop and think a little more. None of them thought this was going to be a huge deal and they all regret it terribly. You people don't know these kids lives, and what they are going through now is enough of a punishment. It's sad that a community has nothing better to do but harp on four young boys just being stupid young boys. We were all kids once. We all do stupid things. And i'm sure they will learn from this situation.
2) I live in a family of sports fanatics...so yes, I do understand rivalries, I have no knowledge of Louisa ever doing the SAME type and extent of damage to your school's property.....but if you say it's true, I will have to take your word for it but would ask you nicely to please provide me some proof and then maybe I will even BEGIN to get where your post is coming from. Having said that, what they did...was a crime...and obviously a big deal as they found out today when they were ARRESTED.....and I do not think any parent/family friend is doing any young adult who is facing criminal charges a favor by excusing their behavior with such lame and in some cases unbelievable excuses....if it WAS my child....I would not....I tell you that in all honesty....rivalries are rivalries and crimes are crimes and I would first of all teach them the difference and second of all expect them to pay the consequences when they chose to make the poor choice not to listen!

With all of that said, and even though I DO NOT believe for a second the nonsense that they had no idea of the damage....I am sure that the one part of your statement that is true is that they feel bad now....do I think that is enough...I am not sure....and I do not believe it is for me to say....I don't know what the punishment is supposed to be for this particular crime nor do I think I am a fair one to judge what punishment suits this crime.....but I do not hold any ill will against these particular young adults and do hope for their sake they have learned their lesson and can move on productively from this. What worries me is some of the adults who choose to present criminal behavior to their children as "no big deal" or just "a high school thing".....and then have no way to help them when they are charged with these crimes.....take responsibilty and your children will too!
A family friend

United States

#29 Sep 10, 2011
no none of them know what was going on witch one of these kids do you really think watch the news really? for real you are blowing this way bigger then what it need to be some spray paint on some grass really its that bad that it has to go all over the news an that everyone has to talk trash all day long no thats stupid something stupid that they did a prank no im sure they wernt like hey there school got damged lets head over an mess up there field why thats stupid thats not what happen and if your kid did it you would think the same damn thing no one wanted this to be a bad thing yall need to realize its not like that
one of the 4

United States

#30 Sep 10, 2011
hey ok so everyone wants to put it all down on us? yes we did something stupid and we are sorry for it. it was not supposed to be something as bad as its going. we did not know the school was damaged and they couldnt go back to school. it was supposed to be for football like they did to us a year ago just to get the football game more amped up but everyone took it way worst. we would have not done that knowing they couldnt go back to school and the football field was all they had and like i said we are all sorry for that and if i could take it all back i would and so would the rest of us we are teenagers that did a stupid thing an shouldnt have everyone messes up and we did it at the wrong time not just to do it because we wanted too just a pay back for the year before and no one got in trouble when they did it to orange because it wasnt such a big deal now was it but i know i messed up and i wouldnt do it again an you guys can hate and be mad all you want but it doesnt change the fact that it happen and we are paying for it now for a stupid prank
one of the 4

United States

#31 Sep 10, 2011
response: just to clear things up, I stated that i was a "family friend." That does not mean I am a parent of these four boys, as I am not! I do know that the boys are being punished very much so by their parents. I can also tell you that the two 18-year-olds already had the crap scared out of them when taken to the Jail, handcuffed, fingerprinted, and not told anything that was going to happen at first. I was there. I was at the sheriff's office and I was at the Jail during all of this and I think, due to the crime, the boys should have at least been told what was going to happen to them as far as the officers could tell. From what we all thought that day was that they were being arrested, correct, but also that they would be put in jail. Not knowing much about the system, the boys were terrified. I saw tears that day that I had never seen. And now,still, this boys suffer from their mistake. Yes, I believe they should be punished and not just "let off the hook", but I also believe the "punishments" should not be as harsh as a jail sentence or anything close. I also don't believe the publishment of the two young boys photos are going to help any causes. These boys, already scared and upset and mad at themselves, were never told that they would be on television. They are already in a big mess, bad as it was before, and now they wake up to find their pictures all over the television, internet, ect. There is a certain point you can push a person before they become traumatized from a situation. Knowing one of these boy's life stories, I know that you all need to stop and think about exactly what you are saying and how this could really be hurting someone emotionally. I know people feel that they deserve it but there is a BIG difference between being "punished" and being "traumatized". I also think all of you adults commenting on this should take a step back. The of the four boys I KNOW have talked to student of Louisa and many times have been told "Oh, it's ok dude, no one here really even cares it's just the parents freaking out about it. It's stupid" maybe you all should talk to your children about how they feel on the situation. Kids understand other kids way more than adults ever will be able to. That's just how it works.
Hornets

AOL

#32 Sep 10, 2011
I know all four of these young men. I know they are mischievous. I CAN believe that they were not aware of the extent of earthquake damage to LCHS. While, I feel for the students at LCHS, the people in Louisa County should realize that the damage to THEIR school was not the most important thing to happen in the life of 17 and 18 year old boys from another county!!! Yes, it is a terrible thing to have to deal with, but it does not consume the lives of EVERYONE in Central Virginia. Yes, they spray-painted your field, your metal lion, your press box....10 hours later the only sign was a faint outline in the grass...I know this because I was there. They meant it as a prank, as payback for what was done in Orange. The timing was horrible...that does not make them hard-core criminals. I do not see where their behavior is anywhere near as offensive as the grown idiot from Louisa who wears the green wig and goes to the Orange fans, threatening to beat the **** out of mothers of players on Orange's baseball team.(Yes, I saw that, too!)

I feel certain that these boys will, and should, be punished for what they have done. But, what they have done IS NOT hard core crime!! Just because it was done to Louisa, and just because it was done the week after an earthquake, does not make it more criminal...it is what it is...a misdemeanor.
Nancy

Winchester, VA

#33 Sep 10, 2011
Responding to "ONE OF THE FOUR.' Are you truly sorry that you did it or are you sorry you got caught???? No, breaking a law(which is what you did, no matter how you see it) is not a prank. Maybe someone should take the time to explain the difference to you. Law breakers are NOT pranksters, they are criminals. A prank is something you play on someone without causing harm to their body or property. A crime is something you commit without thought as to whom or what you will cause damage to. Now, after reading this you tell us which of the two did you and your friends do that night??? And if in fact you are truly sorry let's see how you make amends to Louisa WITHOUT the courts telling you. Any of you as of yet volunteering to help clean up Louisa? I doubt it. Also, some has said that you all didn't know that Louisa had been damaged by the earthquake. DO WHAT?????????? As if that should have made any difference in the plans the four of you made that day.
a family friend

United States

#34 Sep 10, 2011
responding to "Nancy". Yes, they are sorry, number 1. Number 2, not knowing louisa had suffered major hardship from the earthquake does indeed make a difference. The prank they pulled was the same prank Louisa pulled last year and they have an ongoing rivalry between the two teams. The Orange County boys were just getting back, but if they had known what Louisa had been going through they would have never touched that field. And yes, every teenager that gets caught doing something is upset they got caught, but there is a difference here. These boys actually feel bad for what has taken place. They are very ashamed of there actions. This whole situation in my opinion, is sad and sick because of how much it has been blown out of proportion. Because people have nothing better to do in their community than keep this stupid crap going and make it a huge deal and run there mouths when they don't even know all of the facts of the situation. There have been murders in Louisa that don't even get as much publicity as these four young boys. With that being said, this is ridiculous. How long does it take people to get over a situation? I mean, being a friend to a lot of louisa students myself I know that they are not even concerned with this. Louisa students know that they and Orange County are rivals and that similar stuff happens every year. They are not worried about it. They just think it was a stupid prank. Only difference here is that when Louisa did this to Orange, no one was charged. That makes me question our law. Considering how much attention this case is getting. Very ridiculous. And people that have nothing to do with Louisa or Orange in my opinion should not be commenting here because most people don't even know the justs of the situation. If the students aren't barely concerned, why does it matter to the parents or adults so much? Maybe it should be up to Louisa students to decide these boys punishments. With no parent say. I just think whatever the court decides will be punishment enough, and the rude commenting and judging from other that dont know these people should stay out or keep comments to themselves. We were all kids once. Keep an open mind here people.
lion hearted

AOL

#35 Sep 10, 2011
We know that the 4 are dumbasses to start with but do you really think that anyone can believe they did not know the school was damaged with bright yellow crime scene tape strung up all around it ?
I guess their heads were really so far up their collective asses they couldn't see either.
Yep

Houston, TX

#36 Sep 11, 2011
Misdemeanor wrote:
<quoted text>
You really believe that? The kids brag to a few friends. One of these friends tattles to a teacher or parent. The teacher or parent tells the principal what he has heard. The principal calls the police and tells them he knows who they need to question. The police jerk one of them in and he tattles on all his accomplices. The vast majority of crimes are solved by citizen input.
Yep, usually vandalism are solved one of several ways- video cameras, eyewitness of vehicle or people in the area, evidence at scene (paint cans or something else), or the most common method- the inability of the offenders to keep their mouths shut. That alone solves more crime then anything, and that is where it is up to the police to capitalize on it for a prosecution. So, in regards to Louisa vandalizing the Orange field, I would say that if it is true, the Louisa kids had more piehole discipline than the Orange kids.
one of the four

United States

#37 Sep 11, 2011
there was no crime tape on the field or in view of the field at night. we had no idea.
responsible parent

AOL

#38 Sep 11, 2011
one of the four wrote:
there was no crime tape on the field or in view of the field at night. we had no idea.
Sweetheart......I would suggest if all of these forums and blogs, etc are continueing to add to your being "traumatized" by the results of the crime you committed.....STAY AWAY....it is a place for comments about news articles....and also, I am sorry the adults in your community didn't teach you by the age of 17/18 that when you commit a crime there is a possibility of you being fingerprinted and your picture printed in news media.....if they had it could have saved you some of the "trauma".......you do "sound" as if you are truely sorry....and I hope that you will get through everything okay.....in the mean time....you may not want to visit places that are designed for people to give their honest opinions on news stories......concentrate more on how you can be a productive and non-lawbreaking citizen......you will be a lot better off for it!
Michael you rock

Madison, VA

#39 Sep 13, 2011
Dude forreal, they are still kids. 18 or not, they didn't know that they could get in trouble for it , it's a mistake and people need to be given second chances. They need to learn from their mistakes, not get punished for doing it. I think they have learned so far, who ever is pissed off neeeds to get over it. At least they didn't do some major damage, it was just spray paint. Think about it, There is spray paint every where.. all over the world. Get over it.
buyerbeware

Crozet, VA

#41 Sep 13, 2011
Michael you rock wrote:
Dude forreal, they are still kids. 18 or not, they didn't know that they could get in trouble for it , it's a mistake and people need to be given second chances. They need to learn from their mistakes, not get punished for doing it. I think they have learned so far, who ever is **** off neeeds to get over it. At least they didn't do some major damage, it was just spray paint. Think about it, There is spray paint every where.. all over the world. Get over it.
You show your ineptitude and immaturity with this post. You would be best served by going back to your parents and school and demanding that you be taught right from wrong, and the consequences of your bad decisions.
"They need to learn from their mistakes, not get punished for doing it." Really??? If they spray painted your car, would you just expect to "get over it"? When they get punished, they WILL learn from their mistakes, not from the mistake itself. God help our country's future with young people like you!
for you

United States

#42 Sep 13, 2011
responding to "michael you rock

I don't know who you are but i agree with this 100% man:)

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