Why are so many Lawrence County stude...

Why are so many Lawrence County students leaving?

Created by Concerned Citizen on Aug 20, 2011

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Leaders playing politics

Lack of good programs

Lack of discipline

Poor test scores

Teachers

Class size

Athletics is more important than academics

Homeschooling is considered better

Administrators do not speed taxpayer money wisely

Administration apathy toward students and teachers

Wait a minute

Louisa, KY

#81 Mar 30, 2012
Toni Ann Mike wrote:
<quoted text>. It figures our tax dollars going to two of the most inept people in county history. Toni has always had somebody doing the real work for her and she walks around sticking her nose in everybody else's business pretending like she is working. If she is the Early Childhood Director why does she never go to Fallsburg or Blaine? What is she to good to drive that Mercedes on those roads? Or could it be she is afraid that Mrs. Delong might make a decision without her? Since Mrs. Hurley left she has done nothing but try to rule Mrs. Delong and tell her how to do her job and she doesn't even do her own. And Mike everyone is figuring him out he does nothing but lie like a dog. His wife is running the show. He is afraid of her for some reason. For some reason he has connections in Frankfort. I know he worked down there well he pretended to work. People who worked with him will tell you he was all talk and no do. So how did he rise to the top?
Crud always rises to the top! He has his reasons for being afraid she will divorice him and tell some of his secrets... there were problems several years ago when it almost happened I heard. He needs his reputation to stay as clean as possible even more now since his parents have moved back to town. Can't let them know his dirty little stunts. She's always loved to talk a big game and put it on paper as perfect but when it comes to actual work, she's behind the scenes telling everyone else how it should be done.
Refreshing

Louisa, KY

#82 Mar 30, 2012
As someone that has worked in the system here for years it's so refreshing to know that the community really knows what is going on, but for those of us that can't would someone PLEASE call OEA, State KDE and get this all reported from outside the employees!
back on topic sort of

United States

#83 Mar 31, 2012
The original heading for this forum is 'Why are so many Lawrence County students leaving? My only comment is that it is not just the high school level. I have a child at LEES that I am SERIOUSLY considering home-schooling next year. Crappy administration, no communication between faculty and family, favoritism, non-certified teachers on payroll as actual teachers, no accountability from anyone at any level of staff/faculty within the LCS KY school system. I, unfortunately, am like so many others in this county. I can't say anything - my voice doesn't matter. I am afraid to say anything - my child will be singled out and set up to fail. It is hard for me to believe that with everything being said on these forms is common knowledge that the Armstrong Administration is so good at making the state see things through rose-colored glasses. God help all us little people and our families.
Rhonda

United States

#84 Apr 2, 2012
Someone told me that if I want to know what is going on in education in Lawrence county to just read topix. Well I must say if half of what is onhere is true we are in a hell of a shape. There is only one thing to do. Get all new board members that are not in the Armstrongs back pockets.
WTF

Louisa, KY

#87 May 4, 2012
Getting rid of FFA, the board is a bunch of uppity people that don't give a rats A## for us real people, that work for a living with our hands.
Mr Mikey

Pikeville, KY

#88 May 4, 2012
No one can stop us. We are in control. Don't bother attending the Board Meeting you bunch of sheep. Just graze and shut up.
Freshman Parent

Lawrenceburg, IN

#89 Jun 19, 2012
R U kidding me? I have just been told that the HS will have less than 600 students starting next year. I have also been told that they traditionally lose about 50 kids during the year. They told me last year they started with 690 and ended with 610? Can I take my child to another county legally without paying?
hiller

Harold, KY

#90 Jun 24, 2012
all of the above and more!!!!!!!!!!
Rigor

Charleston, WV

#91 Sep 3, 2012
Mike Armstrong stated that students are leaving Lawrence County because of rigor. Since Cassandra brought JR back to be principal the school has gone from 900 kids to less then 580. This survey suggest that the 3 top reasons they left are:
1. Leaders playing politics
2. Lack of disclipine
3. Appathy to teachers and students.
Super Dad

Salyersville, KY

#92 Sep 3, 2012
Hey not only the kids are leaving, the high school staff which only has about 70 employees have had over 80 personnel changes since Mike & Cassandra appointed JR. Not to mention some of the most successful coaches in the County's history.
Ethan

South Point, OH

#93 Sep 5, 2012
who cares wrote:
Why are you people wasting your time on here? Nobody reads this crap. just people like me with nothing to do. The school system has been this way for nearly 100 years. every school system is like this one. it is because they are all run by flawed individuals called human beings. some are not even human.
You're right ! They're lizard people !
My God, call the History Channel! We're on to something !
upset

Salyersville, KY

#94 Sep 5, 2012
You know what is so sad is that many of the people posting on here are teachers and you can tell by what they say and the information they provide. It upsets me to think that such negative people are teaching our kids. It is not administration because they are not of the front line. It is the teachers that set the pace and establish the school culture which is toxic. I hope it is just one or two teachers causing such problems and someone gets it under control soon.
Teacher

Louisa, KY

#95 Sep 9, 2012
Mike Armstrong stated the main reason students are leaving is because since he took over they have increased the rigor and those that left are lazy, looking for the easy way out. Mike grew up here, went to school here, taught here, his wife has worked here her whole adult life. IF ANY ONE KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON IT SHOULD BE THE SUPERINTENDENT. He has the test scores, the facts and the input of the faculty. The rest of you are just spouting off opinions. END OF DISCUSSION.
LC Education

Chapmanville, WV

#96 Sep 9, 2012
Teacher wrote:
Mike Armstrong stated the main reason students are leaving is because since he took over they have increased the rigor and those that left are lazy, looking for the easy way out. Mike grew up here, went to school here, taught here, his wife has worked here her whole adult life. IF ANY ONE KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON IT SHOULD BE THE SUPERINTENDENT. He has the test scores, the facts and the input of the faculty. The rest of you are just spouting off opinions. END OF DISCUSSION.
It is a shared blame. You can receive a good, solid education no matter where you go. It all depends on whether the student WANTS that good education. My biggest problem is that we do have teachers who are burnt out. We also have students who are use to "getting" good grades, not earning them. We also have parents who get upset when their child doesn't have an "A" and the argument always comes back to "well he/she has always gotten straight A's".

We have bad teachers, we have bad students. That is a fact. To try to blame one and not the other is not smart.
New Board Members

United States

#97 Sep 11, 2012
Yep I think it is time for a change.
Small enrollment

Lawrenceburg, IN

#98 Oct 4, 2012
The high school is now less then 600 kids. Yet the census show we should have the largest high school population ever? Where have they all gone? I am told over 150 home school and over 150 transferred. And I am told we have had about 60 new transfer in! Way to go mike, Cassie, and jr!
well

Winchester, KY

#99 Oct 4, 2012
I think some of the lame teachers should get on the same page. Supposed to be the same curriculum for Blaine, Louisa, and Fallsburg?? I do think some of these schools are lacking. So you have a dominating school who met their AYP last year. Which school was that of the three above. If you know the answer, please post on here. I know from what I have seen and been told but want to make sure before I say. I can't believe the difference that some schools make in their teachers. All for one and one for all. They all should be treated equal and the cliques need to go!!!!
Rhino

Salyersville, KY

#100 Oct 29, 2012
Very interesting stuff. I bet most people don't know a lot of this!
That is easy

United States

#101 Oct 30, 2012
well wrote:
I think some of the lame teachers should get on the same page. Supposed to be the same curriculum for Blaine, Louisa, and Fallsburg?? I do think some of these schools are lacking. So you have a dominating school who met their AYP last year. Which school was that of the three above. If you know the answer, please post on here. I know from what I have seen and been told but want to make sure before I say. I can't believe the difference that some schools make in their teachers. All for one and one for all. They all should be treated equal and the cliques need to go!!!!
Louisa middle was the only one to meet AYP in the middle grades and LEES is the only only one to meet AYP for elementary grades. What is funny the Armstrong administration actually thinks they had something to do with it. Those schools made AYP in spite of Armstrong and his bunch.
Dino

Salyersville, KY

#102 Oct 30, 2012
LC Education wrote:
<quoted text>
It is a shared blame. You can receive a good, solid education no matter where you go. It all depends on whether the student WANTS that good education. My biggest problem is that we do have teachers who are burnt out. We also have students who are use to "getting" good grades, not earning them. We also have parents who get upset when their child doesn't have an "A" and the argument always comes back to "well he/she has always gotten straight A's".
We have bad teachers, we have bad students. That is a fact. To try to blame one and not the other is not smart.
Then explain how just 3 years ago the HS finished the highest in state ranking in Lawrence County history and then Armstrong fired the Principal, ran off the two VP, and had over 80 personnel changes in that HS staff that produce such great results. Since JR took over the state rankings when down. A great educational environment starts and ends from the top. If you give good teachers lattitude to develope they will blossom and students excell. If you harass teachers many good ones will leave, and the good ones that stay are hampered by the threat of being fired or harassed and then the students suffer. This is backed up by any successful principal or administrator that has turned around a failing school. Read any book on those success stories and you will know it is true.

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