No wonder bank fees have soared

Full story: Akron Beacon Journal

Last week, after I wrote about National City Bank charging a noncustomer $10 to cash a $35 National City check, I was bombarded with horror stories about other outrageous fees at various local banks.
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JLP

Berea, OH

#21 Mar 13, 2007
Swanny from Wadsworth...
You are absolutely right...look at Nardelli, the CEO of Home Depot. As I recall, during his tenure as CEO sales dropped, company stock declined about 30% but they still gave him a $210 million dollar parachute. Didn't Disney give a CEO who was there less than a year after Eisner left a hundred million or so as a parting gift?
In our own area (I also live in Wadsworth...don't know why this thing says "Euclid"), First Energy got caught keeping funny books and had to restate their earnings. Then caused the largest blackout in history. Then failed to properly maintain one of their nukes to the point that it was within days of becoming another Three Mile Island! AND it cost the company millions in down time and fines...yet they paid their CEO bonuses! Makes you wonder what a CEO would have to do to NOT get a bonus!
I keep thinking that Americans will one day wake up and say, "I'm madder than hell and I won't put up with it anymore"! Not today...maybe tomorrow...
City worker

Dayton, OH

#22 Mar 13, 2007
Get rid of Title IX wrote:
So you're ok with the fact that if not enough girls go out for college sports, men's programs have to be cut. It is a rule that is being abused and is completely anti male.
Very anti-male....like the other recent decision forcing cheerleaders to be a part of the girl's BKB games, even if that means they have to not be at the away men's games so they can be at the girl's game.

Of course, tho very off-topic, is the whole subject of divorce courts, the leader in anti-male rulings.
City worker

Dayton, OH

#23 Mar 13, 2007
Take Responsibility wrote:
Limited personal use is a message to your wife saying you will be home late. What Mr Kline did was forward a vulgar cartoon to his buddies.
So we have cut to the chase here...what you're saying is ten seconds to make a private comment to your wife is OK, but the same 10 seconds to make a political comment(it could just as easily have been to his wife as to his buddies)is not.

So his "limited" personal use is not "limited" by time but by whether or not you agree with the subject matter of the e-mail.
City worker

Dayton, OH

#24 Mar 13, 2007
Get rid of Title IX wrote:
So you're ok with the fact that if not enough girls go out for college sports, men's programs have to be cut. It is a rule that is being abused and is completely anti male.
Title IX can be even more anti-male....since recent rulings in other states have forced schools to have their cheerleading squads in the girls' BKB team games, even if it means the cheerleaders have to forgo appearing at the mens' team games.

Of course, if you really want anti-male, try most rulings from a divorce court
Take Responsibility

United States

#25 Mar 13, 2007
Title IX is not anti-male... it's pro-female.

As a guy I can understand where the confusion might lie. On the surface it can look as if they are taking away male sports to comply to Title IX. Have you stopped to ask yourself why schools are not ADDING women's sports? Title IX only says that the opportunities availible to men and women be equal, no where does it say that you must eliminate opportunities for men. It is just the easy way out that the schools take.

As far as the cheerleading squads go, schools could create bigger squads, which could also raise the number of female atheles since most cheerleaders are females, and would also allow a squad to attend both the men's and women's events.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#26 Mar 13, 2007
Good job Bob ol' buddy. When y'all have a little writer's block ( which is often ), y'all can jes' recap previous stories. Y'all jes' crack me up some days.

Say Bob, why don't y'all do some real investigative reportin'. Mebbe y'all could do a story on why the city put a fella in charge of millions of city dollars, hundreds of employees, but can't manage his own drinkin' problem.

Or, mebbe y'all could explain why y'all did that piddly little piece on the city employee email, yet y'all missed the one of the employee that was emailin' explicit messages to a judges teenage daughter. Ooops, he got to keep his city job, his position, no charges brought, no jail time, no media, he can live within 1000 feet of a school, etc, etc, etc. I bet some of the Mommies here would love to learn about this guy.

Y'all cracked me up when y'all wote: "" interviews with our nation's key opinion leaders. Well, that certainly would include me.""

True, y'all have an opinion, don't y'all think y'all should know sum-thin first before y'all opinionate y'alls self too much??? Y'all wouldn't be related to my ol' buddy Joe would y'all??
feeling sad

Newton Falls, OH

#27 Mar 13, 2007
I bank at national city and do you know they charge me, to withdraw money from that bank if i come in with out a personal check!!!!! I feel that is wrong, as long as i bank there i should be able to come in at any time and take money out, as long as i show id and perhaps a bank card. I never write checks, plus there are not that many national city banks around, i got charged 3 dollars to have them write me a check to withdraw money, when i came back in months later they only charged me a dollar- i didn't even want to get into it with the clerk, she doesn't make the rules and it would be a wasted breath
the atm fees are just as bad- we should get free atm withdraws.
City worker

Dayton, OH

#28 Mar 13, 2007
Anti-male/pro-female...no matter what you call it,the basic premise is the same: if there is an issue between male & female sports, Title IX makes sure the female point of view is the one that prevails.
Pete Procaccio

Shelby, OH

#29 Mar 13, 2007
Last year I deposited the proceeds from a fun raiser event for a national 501(c)3 organization into our bank account. It totalled over $19,000+ with $16,000+ in cash (bills only - all were wrapped and counted). They charged us over $18.00 for the priviledge of depositing that cash.
When I challenged this outrageous fee, they said it was because they had to pay someone to count all that money... Ah isn't that what a teller's job is at the bank?? or is there something missing from my understanding? I had all the bills in neatly wrapped and counted packets, all they had to do was run them through the automatic counter to verify the amounts (all were aok).
Hammurabi

Denver, CO

#30 Mar 13, 2007
Responsibility,

Many (probably not all) schools aren't adding womens' sports because they have a great deal of trouble filling scholarship spots for a number of the sports.

Often, schools will find women nearly literally off the street (or quad, if you prefer) and offer them a scholarship (that's a lot of money!), whether or not they know how to play whatever sport it is they're recruiting for.

Again, this isn't in every case. It's also quite frequently about not wanting to spend more on non-revenue sports. For every male sport they'd want to add, they'd be forced to add a female sport. A big part of the problem is that football has 85 freakin' full scholarships. That sends everything so badly out-of-whack, it's not even funny.

Football doesn't need 85 scholarships (especially when sports like soccer get 9.9, usually spread out as many ways as possible so no one gets a free ride). Title IX does NOT need to focus so much on numbers in a strict sense, but that's the only sure way to verify compliance.

It would be best if football were forced to have fewer and/or football scholarships would be exempt from compliance calculations. A combination would be better yet. Of course we all know that won't happen...
Dan

Sandusky, OH

#31 Mar 13, 2007
Hammurabi is fairly accurate when it comes to Title IX. Responsibility is also correct.

Title IX is about equal OPPORTUNITY not equal dollars. So essentally the ratio between male and female atheles should be proportional to the ration between male and female undergraduates. A school can show compliance in one of three ways: the ratio mentioned above, showing contianual improvement of opportunitiy to an equal ratio, or showing that a significant proportion of the under represented sex has its interests met.

For 2006 the Title IX report for The Ohio State University can be found here:
http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/osu/genrel/EADA/...

It shows that the undergraduate population is 53% male and 47% female, and that 54% of the athletics population is male and 46% female.

As far as Hammurabi's comment about the size of the football team. The report shows 104 members of the football team, and 93 members of the female crew team. From this the size of the football team is nearly offest by the crew team.

To agree with, Responsibility schools cutting men's teams is not the point of Title IX. And if that is what you think then please take some time and educate youself of this great law that ensure that both both men and women get equal treatment in all aspects of their college experiance.
Hammurabi

United States

#32 Mar 13, 2007
Sweet Jesus! 93 on the crew team? How many scholarships? I'd wager <10%. Clearly, that's where my alma mater is "dumping bodies".

There's no way, even as big as crew has historically been at OSU and in the Northeast, that all those women are active.

At any rate, this demonstrates well how Title IX is, at best, a blunt instrument with plenty of unintended consequences. You and I both know, Dan, that the only method of the three that can be objectively verified is the numbers game.

It's no wonder schools use that most often. Title IX is a seriously flawed relic that has focused the debate way, way to narrowly on sports (since everyone focuses on that aspect of it). If there were the same amount of attention put on the academic aspect of it, you'd see similar clumsy, ham-fisted "remedies" applied in every program at a particular university. Except that - wait for it - there's evidence that, as a whole, the proportion of women in college well north of 50% and rising fast.

It should be interesting to see what goes on in the next couple of decades. Hopefully, no one will need Title IX anymore.
Hammurabi

United States

#33 Mar 13, 2007
Well that's just freakin' great.

My post was eaten.

Main point: Title IX is a blunt instrument. The only method of the three mentioned that's objectively verifiable is the numbers method, so everyone uses it to avoid the grief.

And 93 on the crew team is freakin' insane. Crew has been a big part of OSU, but not THAT big. I'd wager that 10-15% are scholarship rowers and most of the rest are just there for "dumping" purposes.
Hammurabi

United States

#34 Mar 13, 2007
What the...?
Michelle Curtis

United States

#35 Apr 2, 2007
Great Reading! Keep up the good work.
You are entertaining and educational, even if you think you are not global. He happened to think you are, compared to the average person, you are. You read about it more than most.

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