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L.A. Times Misses the Story Behind Living Wage Campaigns

There are 13 comments on the Frying Pan News story from Mar 13, 2013, titled L.A. Times Misses the Story Behind Living Wage Campaigns. In it, Frying Pan News reports that:

On Sunday the Los Angeles Times published a story about the important successes of campaigns to pass local minimum wage and living wage laws.

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Edward

Anaheim, CA

#1 Mar 14, 2013
You're not SUPPOSED to get a "living wage" from a minimum wage job already overpopulated by middle-aged illegal alien job seekers. If you RAISE minimum wage, businesses REDUCE hiring, while attracting older applicants, leaving teenagers to twist in the wind.
Again, you're not supposed to make a living wage working at McDonald's. It's supposed to be one of your two or three jobs if your an adult, and a job if you're a teen.
They certainly aren't intended for the onslaught of illegal aliens who continue to swarm across this country.
Long Beach Native

Long Beach, CA

#2 Mar 14, 2013
Minimum wage was suppose to be for adults seeking some entry level experience, while looking for a 'real' job or teenagers, seeking work experience while earning pocket money.

It's not meant to be a lifestyle or a liveable wage.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#3 Mar 14, 2013
Long Beach Native wrote:
Minimum wage was suppose to be for adults seeking some entry level experience, while looking for a 'real' job or teenagers, seeking work experience while earning pocket money.
It's not meant to be a lifestyle or a liveable wage.
Long Beach Native.

You are right, of course. To understand how we got to where we are at, we must look back to the 60s 70s revolution, where most of those now in power laid the foundation that enabled them to loot the Treasury. After abandoning thousands of years of hard learned wisdom, these miscreants promoted the idea that society should learn from them. During the heady "direct action" days of their drug fueled revolution, a revolution that led to the burning of all of America's great cities - including the Long Beach/Compton/South Los Angeles corridor - today's ruling power structure elite promoted the idea that - in order to avoid a lifetime of engaging in productive labor - children should get an expensive taxpayer funded Government "education", whether or not they were qualified or whether they had the intellectual capacity whereby society could benefit from tax moneys that needed to be expended in order to fund that expensive Government "education".

Too late, taxpayers learned the object that was behind this dastardly scheme - the providing of employment for rich overpaid and overworked taxpayer supported Government university "professors" - that is to say themselves - and unbelievable numbers of militant gangs of wealthy Government "teachers" who are funded by increasingly impoverished taxpayers at the grade and secondary Government school levels.

To no one's surprise the result was to destroy America's once great educational system, the impoverishment of ordinary worker ("middle") class taxpayers - a now minority of Americans - and social decay and confusion.

Here are two links to recent articles that address the subject. The first is entitled "Educational Rot". It was posted on Lou Rockwell.com . It was written by the esteemed economist Professor Walter E. Williams. Williams describes the rot that the elderly self-serving revolutionary generation caused to expensive taxpayer funded Government school institutions.

The second is an article linked to by Drudge. It was published by Campus Reform.org . The article is entitled "Brown University to teach male students how to attain prostate pleasure". The article requires no elaboration. It pretty well sums up where the 60s 70s revolutionaries (now in power) and their idiot "love children" have led us.

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Ronald
Long Beach Native

Long Beach, CA

#4 Mar 14, 2013
No argument from me Ronald.

I was did sales for years, but I saw the writing on the wall. When I got laid off, I got enough money to pay my bills off for a year, with some left over, and went back to school.

Sadly, far too many don't see the bigger picture, as they are too far stuck into the here and now.
Clear and Concise

Long Beach, CA

#5 Mar 14, 2013
Congrats, Ronald. You finally wrote a clear, concise and effective presentation that is right on the mark. Thanks. This one kinda makes up for all those other ones.
Vic

Anaheim, CA

#6 Mar 14, 2013
Clear and Concise wrote:
Congrats, Ronald. You finally wrote a clear, concise and effective presentation that is right on the mark. Thanks. This one kinda makes up for all those other ones.
He didn't say "revolutionary" or "tobacco" once, so I'll kind of agree with you. I don't think he can keep it up for long, however.

Since: Feb 13

San Jose, CA

#7 Mar 14, 2013
In the event supposed to be a "living wage" from a minimum wage job was too crowded by people looking for illegal alien in middle age.If you raise the minimum wage society should learn from them. In the heady "direct action" on the revolution to promote their drugs, a revolution led to the burning of all major cities
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Joe Nelson

AOL

#8 Mar 15, 2013
Edward wrote:
You're not SUPPOSED to get a "living wage" from a minimum wage job already overpopulated by middle-aged illegal alien job seekers. If you RAISE minimum wage, businesses REDUCE hiring, while attracting older applicants, leaving teenagers to twist in the wind.
Again, you're not supposed to make a living wage working at McDonald's. It's supposed to be one of your two or three jobs if your an adult, and a job if you're a teen.
They certainly aren't intended for the onslaught of illegal aliens who continue to swarm across this country.
Of course, you are right but L.A. County is plummeting towards Pension Bankruptcy so nothing really matters anymore. There are currently 18,000 and counting "retired" Public Employees fixed with multi million dollar totally tax slaves funded Pension schemes.

We made terrible, self destructive political choices based on touchy feely crap and we all got screwed. Worse, we screwed our kids who will be forced to pay our political debt.
Joe Nelson

AOL

#9 Mar 15, 2013
Joe Nelson wrote:
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Of course, you are right but L.A. County is plummeting towards Pension Bankruptcy so nothing really matters anymore. There are currently 18,000 and counting "retired" Public Employees fixed with multi million dollar totally tax slaves funded Pension schemes.
We made terrible, self destructive political choices based on touchy feely crap and we all got screwed. Worse, we screwed our kids who will be forced to pay our political debt.
Opps........My Bad. The 18,000 plus multi million $$$ pensions are ONLY in L.A City. When you add the County our pitiful kids will have to fund another 22,000 and counting. So sad that parents don't vote like their kid matter in L.A. County. CA Parents probably wound't put their kids in car seats if they weren't going to be fined if caught. What a mess.
Dolph Thitler

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Mar 15, 2013
Joe Nelson wrote:
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Opps........My Bad. The 18,000 plus multi million $$$ pensions are ONLY in L.A City.
You rock at coming up with ridiculously obviousl fake names. I'm gonna try one!

Since: Feb 13

San Jose, CA

#11 Mar 16, 2013
Too late, the government militant gang nopcac rich "teachers" who are funded by taxpayers increasingly poor in school and secondary levels of the Government.not surprising result is the destruction of tax learned the object behind this dastardly plan - providing jobs for rich taxpayers overpaid and overworked and go back to school support. Sadly, too many do not see the bigger picture, because they are far too hard on here and now.
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Tiffany

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Mar 16, 2013
Joe Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Opps........My Bad. The 18,000 plus multi million $$$ pensions are ONLY in L.A City. When you add the County our pitiful kids will have to fund another 22,000 and counting. So sad that parents don't vote like their kid matter in L.A. County. CA Parents probably wound't put their kids in car seats if they weren't going to be fined if caught. What a mess.
Actually, these people think they care a great deal. The problem is that they seem to be lacking in the basic knowledge of math (or phisics) that everything had to come from somewhere. It doesn't just poof itself into existence. People thought that they could vote for pensions for our "poor public workers" and that the $ would magically materialize. After all, the rich can always pay it. Sure billionaires can pay our trillions in obligations, and still have plenty left over. And when minimum wage goes up, employers never pass on that additional cost to customers in the form of higher prices.
De Facto

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Mar 16, 2013
Tiffany wrote:
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Actually, these people think they care a great deal. The problem is that they seem to be lacking in the basic knowledge of math (or phisics) that everything had to come from somewhere. It doesn't just poof itself into existence. People thought that they could vote for pensions for our "poor public workers" and that the $ would magically materialize. After all, the rich can always pay it. Sure billionaires can pay our trillions in obligations, and still have plenty left over. And when minimum wage goes up, employers never pass on that additional cost to customers in the form of higher prices.
Studies have shown it's not the quality of teachers so much as the quality of students. If you import a large hispanic underclass, and don't try to cap black births with government enticements, the quality of students in California will suffer, as will the test scores.
Black kids have the lowest test scores in California by far. Something needs to be done to discourage black births. Until then, upping teachers salaries is a waste of money. They're just highly paid baby sitters.

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