Looking at vinyl replacement windows ...
Abe

United States

#113 May 26, 2009
I would look at the Simonton vinyl windows. I have had the Simonton 7300 vinyl windows on my house for 3 years now and can recommend them. I shopped for over 2 months and found Simonton offered one of the best window warranties and I really liked the Simonton 7300 narrow frame. Most of the vinyl windows I looked at had bulky frames. I wanted more glass so I went with the Simonton 7300. Simonton 7500 is the one with the wide frame.
Mark

United States

#114 May 28, 2009
Steven wrote:
I bought Milgard Tuscany windows for my home last year from Window and Door Outlet in Chino Hills. Window and Door Outlet gave me a great price and the installation went well. Now I know why I got such a good price. This past weekend when the rains hit all my windows started leaking water inside the house. I called Window and Door Outlet and the phone number is out of order and when I drove to the location everything is gone. Window and Door Outlet in Chino Hills has gone out of business and left its customers out in the cold. I called Milgard Monday and they sent someone came out today and told me that the windows were installed incorrectly. I had steel casement windows before they got replaced. Milgard says that the windows need to be replaced. Milgard says they are not going to do anything to fix the problem. Milgard says Window and Door Outlet is responsible for the installation leaking water. Leaking is a installation issue not a manufacturing issue Milgard says. I have plastic covering the windows now. Hope that keeps the water out.
Sorry to read about your problems with your windows and installation. I am looking at getting my windows done and stories like this make me think twice. One salesman told me that even more window companies will be going out of business in this economy.
Jason Barnes

Burbank, CA

#115 May 31, 2009
Double stregnth on Milgard is not standard on smaller windows- but you can upgrade it for no charge per Milgard. You can call them.
Jay wrote:
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Sounds like a great deal. Did you upgrade to double strength glass? Milgard Tuscany does not have double strength standard.
Jason Barnes

Burbank, CA

#116 May 31, 2009
I do not work for a Window Company and I spoke to Milgard. The Dealers and Reps that are telling you it's extra are full of BS. Just a sales tactic to add on to their sales.

Call Milgard and ask- they absolutely do not charge to upgrade to "double stregnth, 1/8" glass. If you find a reputable dealer and salesperson- they will all tell you the same thing- no charge, no problem.

Also- when and if you do call Milgard to verify, I beleive they take this pretty seriously.
Mike wrote:
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Jason do you work for Milgard or for a Milgard dealer?
I use to sell Milgard windows for a Milgard dealer and it does cost the dealer more money to upgrade to from 3/32" to 1/8" Maybe some dealers are not charging the customer in order to get the sale but it still costs them money. It wasn't in the Milgard price book so I would always have to send the sizes in for a quote to get the thicker glass. If it didn't cost Milgard any money I would think they would have 1/8" standard. I don't think it was more than $7-$10 cost a window depending on the size. Milgard does give you a glass breakage warranty on their Tuscany line so upgrading might not be necessary. If sound is an issue I guess the thicker glass is better.
Russell

Laguna Beach, CA

#117 May 31, 2009
Jason Barnes wrote:
I do not work for a Window Company and I spoke to Milgard. The Dealers and Reps that are telling you it's extra are full of BS. Just a sales tactic to add on to their sales.
Call Milgard and ask- they absolutely do not charge to upgrade to "double stregnth, 1/8" glass. If you find a reputable dealer and salesperson- they will all tell you the same thing- no charge, no problem.
Also- when and if you do call Milgard to verify, I beleive they take this pretty seriously.
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Jason I have been looking for windows and found that Milgard windows are middle of the road when compared to Anlin, Amerimax and Simonton. I am leaning towards the Simonton window.

Since: Mar 09

Cypress, CA

#118 Jun 1, 2009
In my humble opinion, after all the Window Shopping- not seeing much difference in Simonton vs. Milgard.

I am going with Milgard because of there customer service and the fact they have two plants in Southern California. The installation of the windows is what is really going to make the difference of a bad window vs. a good window. A cheap glass vs. expensive glass? Seems to me there are only 3 glass manafactures and the rest is the contruction of the window. The Milgard has nice features for the price.
Russell wrote:
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Jason I have been looking for windows and found that Milgard windows are middle of the road when compared to Anlin, Amerimax and Simonton. I am leaning towards the Simonton window.
Joel

United States

#119 Jun 1, 2009
I went with the Simonton's 7300 because I liked the small frame and didn't lose alot of glass compared to other vinyl windows. Some retrofit vinyl window frames make you lose 3" to 5" of glass. I have had the Simonton's for 4 years and no problems.
Dwight

Laguna Beach, CA

#120 Jun 1, 2009
I recommend Amerimax with the brickmold fin. Amerimax has a good warranty.
Steven

Laguna Beach, CA

#121 Jun 1, 2009
Milgard Tuscany single hungs don't tilt in for cleaning. When I bought my Milgards last year I never knew this until they were installed. I assumed that they tilted in like other brands I looked at. My wife complains about not being able to clean the windows on the outside on the 2nd story. Isn't a big deal for me.
Taylor

Laguna Beach, CA

#122 Jun 2, 2009
The MI windows look nice. A salesman showed me them today. I looked at the Milgard's too but they are too expensive for me.
Telmark

Chico, CA

#123 Jun 2, 2009
Steve is correct. Again, one of the most important points (as with any construction job) is proper workmanship.

The problem with some companies is that they hire unskilled and or underpaid workers that often fail to install the windows properly. A window job can be ruined by just one of many installation errors including using the wrong expanding foam sealer (this can cause the vinyl frames to fail and leak), improper fit (too loose or too tight), sliding glass doors that are installed "inside out" or windows that have been installed "upside down" (yes, I've seen this!), etc.

Doing business with a well known, licensed and insured, company with a solid history can save you a lot of time and costly repairs in the long run.

People should also be aware that many companies purchase the materials for the (your) job on "credit" from outside suppliers and that these suppliers may place a lien on your property until the materials bill is paid off in full (by the company you hired to do the work).
sliding door hardware

United States

#124 Jun 2, 2009
I have a question about sliding doors. I have looked at Superior and Milgard so far and don't like the outside handle which is plastic and I think ugly. Which companies make a metal handle for the outside? Can it be a key lock? If I go with different window and door brands will people be able to notice?
Tom

Monterey Park, CA

#125 Jun 3, 2009
sliding door hardware wrote:
I have a question about sliding doors. I have looked at Superior and Milgard so far and don't like the outside handle which is plastic and I think ugly. Which companies make a metal handle for the outside? Can it be a key lock? If I go with different window and door brands will people be able to notice?
You can get a metal powder coated handle from Simonton which is standard. Simonton has a nice inside handle that gives you 5 finishes to choose from at no extra charge. I got the satin nickel handle. I also got a toe lock for the patio door. Milgard and Pella did not have this feature. I don't think this is offered on most doors. Simonton also has a key lock available. Simonton also gives a lifetime screen warranty on their patio door.
Tim

United States

#126 Jun 5, 2009
I found this forum and it has really helped choosing a window and company to do my window. I am going with the MI Professional series because I feel the window is well made and MI is a well know window in the industry.
Roger M

Monterey Park, CA

#127 Jun 7, 2009
I don't recommend Empire Pacific vinyl windows. I have Empire Pacific windows currently in my home and they just don't work very well. My wife has a tough time opening them. The lock is sometimes hard to release. I called Empire Pacific service and Empire Pacific gave me a appointment 5 weeks later. I know the windows come from Oregon but does the service too? The Empire Pacific service guy fixed the problems while he was here but a few days later the windows were sticking again. Not happy with the Empire Pacific windows or service. The company that installed the windows is out of business.
Ryan

United States

#128 Jun 13, 2009
I am looking at getting my windows replaced and have gotten a few estimates. I just read an article on California workers compensation going up over 23% because of the state budget mess. Anyone know if this would raise the prices for doing my windows? And if so how much? Here is the link.

http://www.whittierdailynews.com/ci_12554955
Window Guy

United States

#129 Jun 15, 2009
I think when you actually look into what materials are being used to make a window you see why there is a difference in price and quality. One of the main differences between vinyl window manufacturers is the amount of virgin vinyl and recycled vinyl. The window manufacturers that use more recycled vinyl are cheaper to produce. This is one of the reasons why there are differences in window prices from manufacturer to manufacturer.

In California Milgard, Simonton, Anlin, Amerimax are all considered to be good to premium windows. Simonton, Anlin and Amerimax will be more expensive because they use very little recycled vinyl. But a company like Milgard uses more and therefore cheaper to produce. Milgard uses 8%-10% recycled vinyl in their windows.

Here is the link:
http://pro.milgard.com/_doc/leed.pdf
Milgard Vinyl Windows contain 8%-10% pre-consumer recycled content of vinyl. Vinyl is approximately
35% of the weight of the average window and 31% of the weight of the average door. Therefore, as a
weighted percentage, Milgard vinyl windows contain 2.8-3.5% in pre-consumer recycled content in windows and 2.4%-3.1% pre-consumer recycled content in doors.
BernieinPV

Upland, CA

#130 Jun 18, 2009
Can you provide a quote for the south bay LA area?
Vinyl Window Pro wrote:
I sell vinyl replacement windows and would rank them this way.
1. Simonton vinyl replacement windows
2. Amerimax vinyl replacement windows
3. Anlin vinyl replacement windows
4. Milgard Tuscany vinyl replacement windows
5. Atrium vinyl replacement windows
6. Certainteed Somerton vinyl replacement windows
7. Superior Ultima vinyl replacement windows
8. Polybau vinyl replacement windows - horrible service.
9. Milgard Styleline vinyl replacement windows
10. Superior Deluxe vinyl replacement windows
Top 4 vinyl window brands are pretty close in quality. Some standard features are different. After top 4 warranty and service become issues. Milgard Tuscany and Amerimax probably the cheapest. Amerimax has all the bells and whistles but Milgard Tuscany can be upgraded to have the same features. Can't go wrong with any of the top 4 brands listed. Make sure you get a good installer or getting a good window won't matter.
Tad

El Cajon, CA

#131 Jun 21, 2009
I got an estimate $20,000 for 27 windows of Atrium - Heirloom.
Do you think it is a good buy?
Thomas

United States

#132 Jun 22, 2009
Tad wrote:
I got an estimate $20,000 for 27 windows of Atrium - Heirloom.
Do you think it is a good buy?
Atrium Heirloom is a good window but that price seems really high in todays market. Unless you have some giant windows or alot of tempering I would still be looking. Take a look at Simonton, Amerimax, Anlin, Superior, or Milgard Tuscany.

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