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Growing e-cigarette trend raises safety concerns

There are 142 comments on the Press-Telegram story from Jul 21, 2013, titled Growing e-cigarette trend raises safety concerns. In it, Press-Telegram reports that:

Vapes of Wrath in Long Beach sells e-cigarette and accessories July 18, 2013. The e-cigarette vaporizes a liquid solution, simulating the act of tobacco smoking.

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Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#88 Mar 5, 2014
Whats That Stink wrote:
<quoted text> Governments are corrupt and sell to the highest corporate bidder. Big Tobacco must have been outbid.
Whats That Stink.

Yes. That is exactly what Big Government wants you to believe. It's being promoted by the Government propaganda mill, AKA "the news". Most people just believe what they are told. Few bother to question it. That is why Big Government is able to get away with doing the things it does.

The fact is, though, that since Big Government nationalized Big Tobacco, both Big Government tobacco taxes collected and Big Tobacco profits have soared. "The war against decent tobacco users" has enabled Big Government rulers to impose despotic control over areas that have nothing to do with tobacco. That despotism primarily affects decent non-tobacco users of good will. Clever, eh?

Ronald

Since: Feb 14

India

#89 Mar 5, 2014
I think it good to have a e-cigarette if it does not harm your body and also it is environment friendly.

Since: Mar 14

Location hidden

#90 Mar 5, 2014
Not sure if the product will be able to pull it off. Too much antipathy on the smoking issue. Parents will complain about the bad example set. Ex smokers will complain about the foolishness of such a habit. A lot of downside.
Antismokers Rule

Winnipeg, Canada

#91 Mar 5, 2014
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
Whats That Stink.
Yes. That is exactly what Big Government wants you to believe. It's being promoted by the Government propaganda mill, AKA "the news". Most people just believe what they are told. Few bother to question it. That is why Big Government is able to get away with doing the things it does.
The fact is, though, that since Big Government nationalized Big Tobacco, both Big Government tobacco taxes collected and Big Tobacco profits have soared. "The war against decent tobacco users" has enabled Big Government rulers to impose despotic control over areas that have nothing to do with tobacco. That despotism primarily affects decent non-tobacco users of good will. Clever, eh?
Ronald
The USA is run by corporate America. Its about $$$$ and whatever they need to do to generate it is what they do. Especially allowing consumers to be harmed so that Big Medical can fleece them.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#92 Mar 5, 2014
Antismokers Rule wrote:
<quoted text> The USA is run by corporate America. Its about $$$$ and whatever they need to do to generate it is what they do. Especially allowing consumers to be harmed so that Big Medical can fleece them.
Antismokers Rule.

Yes. I agree. Years ago, the industrialist Henry J Kaiser used his own money to establish the Kaiser Permanente health plan for ordinary worker *("middle")* class Americans.$3 prescriptions, regardless of formulary,$60 pre and post-natel care for mothers, low monthly insurance rates, and excellent overall medical care for workers and their families. Never to be outdone, the "Liberal" political ruling class set about to "improve" upon Kaiser's accomplishments.

The ruling class politicians gradually imposed harsh health care Government rules and regulations - extending mandated health care to ever greater numbers of the non productive tax eater class. When they ran out, Big Government imported more, creating today's voting majority of tax eaters.

This satisfied Big Medicine because it ended up destroying the competition and brought them under the umbrella of Big Government "protection". Rather than a few dollars monthly premium, premiums soared for the non-tax eater class. Eventually, the political ruling class destroyed the private health care industry altogether, turning that system into a mandated Big Government monopoly.

It's a sad state of affairs, but it is no different than any other industry taken over by the post 60s 70s revolutionary Big Government political ruling class. Big Tobacco is only one example. Now the political ruling class is using Government "health" "care" to dictate every aspect of the "private" lives of a one-time free people. Like the foul tasting "Government approved" food stuffs fed to children who are said to eat it because they never tasted any different, the children will accept Big Government tyranny because eventually no one will remain who ever knew what it is like to live in a society of free people.

Ronald
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#93 Mar 6, 2014
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
Antismokers Rule.
Yes. I agree. Years ago, the industrialist Henry J Kaiser used his own money to establish the Kaiser Permanente health plan for ordinary worker *("middle")* class Americans.$3 prescriptions, regardless of formulary,$60 pre and post-natel care for mothers, low monthly insurance rates, and excellent overall medical care for workers and their families. Never to be outdone, the "Liberal" political ruling class set about to "improve" upon Kaiser's accomplishments.
The ruling class politicians gradually imposed harsh health care Government rules and regulations - extending mandated health care to ever greater numbers of the non productive tax eater class. When they ran out, Big Government imported more, creating today's voting majority of tax eaters.
This satisfied Big Medicine because it ended up destroying the competition and brought them under the umbrella of Big Government "protection". Rather than a few dollars monthly premium, premiums soared for the non-tax eater class. Eventually, the political ruling class destroyed the private health care industry altogether, turning that system into a mandated Big Government monopoly.
It's a sad state of affairs, but it is no different than any other industry taken over by the post 60s 70s revolutionary Big Government political ruling class. Big Tobacco is only one example. Now the political ruling class is using Government "health" "care" to dictate every aspect of the "private" lives of a one-time free people. Like the foul tasting "Government approved" food stuffs fed to children who are said to eat it because they never tasted any different, the children will accept Big Government tyranny because eventually no one will remain who ever knew what it is like to live in a society of free people.
Ronald
And just what is poor ole downtrodden Ronald not free to do? Your continued paranoia about the "Big Government Monster" hiding in the closet along with the Boogie Man is going to convince you to actually start believing that tripe.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#94 Mar 6, 2014
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> And just what is poor ole downtrodden Ronald not free to do? Your continued paranoia about the "Big Government Monster" hiding in the closet along with the Boogie Man is going to convince you to actually start believing that tripe.
ThomasA.

Yes. I agree. Being a tough nut to crack, it is my hope to be the last man to "love Big Brother" - or is it Big Momma? After all, even Winston Smith was not prohibited from enjoying the simple pleasure of an occasional tobacco product, although the quality of his tobacco was deteriorated as much as our own has been ever since Big Government nationalized Big Tobacco.

Ronald

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#96 Mar 23, 2014
Chester wrote:
I tried everything to stop smoking nothing worked. 40 years.
Until now. I'm getting the nic out of the vape stick but not the carcinogens. If peope want to suck on something why in the hellll
doesn't govt nanny leave 'em alone.
You are an addict. You need to vape somewhere away from other people. Simple,
The Mad Man

Long Beach, CA

#97 Mar 23, 2014
bud_schmones wrote:
<quoted text>
You are an addict. You need to vape somewhere away from other people. Simple,
You do have the option of NOT BREATHING. That would be an accomplishment if you so desire?

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#99 Mar 23, 2014
The Mad Manand wrote:
<quoted text>
You do have the option of NOT BREATHING. That would be an accomplishment if you so desire?
Nicotine addicts are working at a feverish pace to make sure they stop breathing themselves as soon as possible. No one will mourn the passing of these filthy addicts once the stench disappears they will be forgotten.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#101 Mar 25, 2014
bud_schmones wrote:
<quoted text>
Nicotine addicts are working at a feverish pace to make sure they stop breathing themselves as soon as possible. No one will mourn the passing of these filthy addicts once the stench disappears they will be forgotten.
bud_schmones.

Yes. You are right. Tobacco is a highly addictive Government controlled substance that is used by politicians to satisfy their addiction to ever increasing taxes and Governmental control. These heavily addicted tax and control politicians are always on the lookout for ever more potent "hits". They are now going after decent users of non-tobacco related e-"cigarettes". This addiction can only be cured by booting them out of office and turning them into taxpayers like the rest of us.

Ronald

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#102 Mar 25, 2014
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
bud_schmones.
Yes. You are right. Tobacco is a highly addictive Government controlled substance that is used by politicians to satisfy their addiction to ever increasing taxes and Governmental control. These heavily addicted tax and control politicians are always on the lookout for ever more potent "hits". They are now going after decent users of non-tobacco related e-"cigarettes". This addiction can only be cured by booting them out of office and turning them into taxpayers like the rest of us.
Ronald
Gee Ronald. I vote FOR the politicians who want to curb my exposure to the unhealthy effluents from nicotine addicts assuaging their pangs of addiction. I do not feel sorry for some filthy addict who does not even have enough self control to make it through an entire meal without needing a fix.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#103 Mar 25, 2014
bud_schmones wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee Ronald. I vote FOR the politicians who want to curb my exposure to the unhealthy effluents from nicotine addicts assuaging their pangs of addiction. I do not feel sorry for some filthy addict who does not even have enough self control to make it through an entire meal without needing a fix.
bud_schmones.

Exactly. Addicted politicians use tobacco as a Government tax and control delivery device. They can always depend on a tiny - but very noisy - cadre of hysterics to provide the emotionalism needed to pave the way. Now those addicted politicians excite that very same tiny group of hysterics to go after non-tobacco products such as e "cigarettes".

Decent tobacco users and non-tobacco users of good-will are very excited about taxpayer funded Obamacare. It is hoped the hysterics will sign up to take advantage of "free" taxpayer funded medical care. They would then be eligible to see a Government "doctor". Certainly Big Government's drug industry subsidiaries have invented a Government approved dangerous drug that can be taken by the hysterics to keep their emotions within the bounds of normalcy.

Ronald

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#104 Mar 26, 2014
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
bud_schmones.
Exactly. Addicted politicians use tobacco as a Government tax and control delivery device. They can always depend on a tiny - but very noisy - cadre of hysterics to provide the emotionalism needed to pave the way. Now those addicted politicians excite that very same tiny group of hysterics to go after non-tobacco products such as e "cigarettes".
Decent tobacco users and non-tobacco users of good-will are very excited about taxpayer funded Obamacare. It is hoped the hysterics will sign up to take advantage of "free" taxpayer funded medical care. They would then be eligible to see a Government "doctor". Certainly Big Government's drug industry subsidiaries have invented a Government approved dangerous drug that can be taken by the hysterics to keep their emotions within the bounds of normalcy.
Ronald
I forgot. You are mentally ill. Sorry that I replied to you. Have a nice life.
Anonymous

Tunisia

#106 Mar 26, 2014
Electronic cigarettes are a real good alternative to smoking tobacco. They should be taken for a fixed period between 6 & 8 months maximum
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#108 Mar 27, 2014
Stool Sample from Ronald wrote:
<quoted text> You've gone off the deep end Ron. Government health initiatives are long over due and are necessary, not a conspiracy. Maybe you're too smoke damaged to understand. Up here in Canada we did health care decades ago. I never have to worry about losing my home because I need an operation. And yes I pay taxes for that, but its painless when you live a productive, positive life. Never smoked, rarely drink, and voila I'm healthy. Life/health are related to choices you make. I have several school chums dead from smoking, others with cancer scares and one with a hole in his throat. There's something REALLY wrong with those pictures, but its what they chose by thinking cigs and beer were their friends. Some will go to early graves because they refuse to wise up, so government has to act for you. It may not help you, and you don't seem to want help, but other's will benefit from the changes proposed. But if you are a happy knuckle dragging cave dweller fine, just STFU about helping others.
Stool Sample from Ronald.

Yes. I agree. Before Big Government seized control of and politicized the US health care industry, Americans enjoyed excellent health care at reasonable cost. One could see a doctor at without mortgaging his overtaxed humble home. Those few who could not afford to do so were either treated gratis by the community focused doctor or otherwise by the many charitable organizations that thrived until the revolutionaries *(druggies)**(now in power)* destroyed all sense of community and commonality among the American people.

You are also correct when you say that most decent tobacco users live just as long as - or longer than - most decent non-tobacco users of good-will. In fact, most decent tobacco users also have more upbeat and more wholesome mental outlooks. Discounting Big Government's Haitian “Voodoo effect” that ruling Big Government masters designed for the more suggestible among us, most of them enjoy far better health than most non-tobacco users of ill-will. Few non-tobacco users of ill-will trouble themselves to visit "convalescent" homes that accommodate non-tobacco users who are on death's doorstep. It is horrible to behold.

Since the 60s 70s revolution, the Big American "health" "care" industry and the weather have been politicized into instruments that are designed for greater Big Government control and increased taxation. Part and parcel of those systems is the transfer of their meager "wealth" from the ordinary worker *("middle")* non-ruling class American to the dependent violent tax eater class. This is done lest they were to riot and burn all of America's cities again, thereby endangering the American political ruling class and their corrupt legal system.

If you need a practical demonstration of this reality, the American worker *(middle")* class is willing to take up a voluntary collection to reactivate “the underground railway". Those voluntary “free-will donations” could then be used to send our Canadian friends some more passengers. Just as those in Britain, and those living on the mother continent have learned, greater "diversity" could serve to enlighten our smug Canadian friends as to what has happened to the US since the revolution.

Ronald
ItsAFact

Macon, GA

#109 Mar 28, 2014
Friday night and I have an evening planned out. A little wine, some foreplay and then some hardcore sex. Afterwards, it's time to lay back and have a smoke. One of these days I will invite someone to join me. It can get tedious doing it by oneself.
ItsAFact

Macon, GA

#110 Mar 28, 2014
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
Stool Sample from Ronald.

Ronald
How do you pack it? Does it stink? Do you play with it first?
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#111 Mar 28, 2014
ItsAFact wrote:
Friday night and I have an evening planned out. A little wine, some foreplay and then some hardcore sex. Afterwards, it's time to lay back and have a smoke. One of these days I will invite someone to join me. It can get tedious doing it by oneself.
ItsAFact.

Yes. The children are always asking me whether the revolutionaries'*(druggies)**( now in power)* haven't destroyed all sense of community and commonality among the American people since the start of the revolution? The little folks ask, if that be true, why did they do it?

I explain to the kiddies that, by the use of divisive tactics, the revolutionary ruling class eventually becomes the only Big Frog in the pond. The war of non-tobacco users of ill-will against decent tobacco users and their freedom loving friends - the decent non-tobacco users of good-will - is just one - but a very visible one - example. The ultimate objective is to create suspicions, greed, and envy and thereby to make all non-revolutionaries minorities of one. The example you gave of your own predicament vividly demonstrates the end result of what the revolutionary ruling class is doing.

I always give the children a link to an article that explains the result, even though the revolution is ongoing even as we write. I always tell the children to overlook the esoteric meaningless verbiage used by the writers if they read the entire report. I always explain to the kids that the writers may be handicapped as a result of attending Government institutions of higher "learning". According to the authors:

"Community psychologists are interested in creating contexts that promote both respect for diversity and sense of community. However, recent theoretical and empirical work has uncovered a community-diversity dialectic wherein the contextual conditions that foster respect for diversity often run in opposition to those that foster sense of community. More specifically, within neighborhoods, residential integration provides opportunities for
intergroup contact that are necessary to promote respect for diversity but may prevent the formation of dense interpersonal networks that are necessary to promote sense of
community."

I always tell the children that, in less superstitious times, this was seen as only common sense.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/npoopr8

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Ronald
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#112 Mar 29, 2014
Bad Breath wrote:
<quoted text> they're suppositories right?
Yes, they are in the same family of products. An addict just has to try to remember which end either goes in. Sometimes in a panic for a quick fix, they just may get the two mixed up.

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