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Steve

Johnson City, TN

#1 Dec 13, 2008
I am from a small town in Eastern Tennessee called Rogersville. It has a population of about 5 to 6,000 people. Last week an 18 year old kid was sniped and killed in the Wal-mart parking lot where alot of the youngsters hang out. The shot was fired from about 200 yards from a car wash that is adajacent to the Wal-mart parking lot entrance. A lot of folks here fear that small groups of gangs are trying to form. They fear that actual Gang members have moved nearby and are trying to form them. Can anyone give advice on how a small town can get a grip on this before it gets started. I thought I would come to the L.A. Forum to talk to people that experience this kind of life everyday.Do you think these are just gang wannabees or do you think we have something to worry about.
Hector

AOL

#2 Dec 14, 2008
Steve,

First they will tell you how wonderful diversity is, then you will see property vandalized. A little later you and a few other good citizens will voice your concerns and you will be shouted down as racists & biggots. Then there may be some shootings and God forbid, killings. You will again be reminded how wonderful it is to have Mexico import it's criminals to our beloved country. This trend will continue until you have no choice but to relocate to a safer area along with other law abiding citizens. The area you left will start to deteriorate and more of Mexicos criminals will move in. They will vote in far left wing mayors & coucil members who will start accusing the rest of your state how racist it is because your once beautiful town is now a toilet. I can go on and on but I think you see how it works. Good luck.
GangMembersAreCo wards

Pleasanton, CA

#3 Dec 14, 2008
How to stop gangs?

By not treating them like people.
Trade Wind

AOL

#4 Dec 14, 2008
If the ACLU quits protecting them perhaps something would be done about them.
Meow

Lakewood, CA

#5 Dec 15, 2008
Hector wrote:
Steve,
First they will tell you how wonderful diversity is, then you will see property vandalized. A little later you and a few other good citizens will voice your concerns and you will be shouted down as racists & biggots. Then there may be some shootings and God forbid, killings. You will again be reminded how wonderful it is to have Mexico import it's criminals to our beloved country. This trend will continue until you have no choice but to relocate to a safer area along with other law abiding citizens. The area you left will start to deteriorate and more of Mexicos criminals will move in. They will vote in far left wing mayors & coucil members who will start accusing the rest of your state how racist it is because your once beautiful town is now a toilet. I can go on and on but I think you see how it works. Good luck.
Because all gang members are mexican nationals right? LOL!

Since: Jul 08

Pittsburgh, PA

#6 Dec 15, 2008
GangMembersAreCo wards

Pleasanton, CA

#7 Dec 15, 2008
Meow wrote:
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Because all gang members are mexican nationals right? LOL!
No..it's because all gang members are worthless pieces of coward trash. No matter what race the moron sub-humans are, they will be held to the lowest, or nonexistent, standards their apologists could hold them to. If an innocent person (or as the animals could them: "a mushroom") gets murdered,'hey, that can happen anywhere'.
I say there should be a special set of laws that apply to a special group of abject cowards. Federal laws that impose harsh mandatory sentences for just being a domestic terrorist.
Meow

Lakewood, CA

#8 Dec 15, 2008
GangMembersAreCowards wrote:
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No..it's because all gang members are worthless pieces of coward trash. No matter what race the moron sub-humans are, they will be held to the lowest, or nonexistent, standards their apologists could hold them to. If an innocent person (or as the animals could them: "a mushroom") gets murdered,'hey, that can happen anywhere'.
I say there should be a special set of laws that apply to a special group of abject cowards. Federal laws that impose harsh mandatory sentences for just being a domestic terrorist.
Now this I can agree with....
Trade Wind

AOL

#9 Dec 15, 2008
Meow wrote:
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Because all gang members are mexican nationals right? LOL!
Who said all? A very disproportiante amount are, do you disagree with that?
Meow

Gardena, CA

#10 Dec 16, 2008
Trade Wind wrote:
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Who said all? A very disproportiante amount are, do you disagree with that?
"Steve" mentioned it. I'm not sure what most are and aren't. I don't know the statistics but I will tell you that many i've seen are Salvadorian, or Guatemalen etc....they just get bunched with the Mexicans cuz they look similar and speak the same language and because they use Mexico as a bridge to cross into the U.S. So I'm not going to say yes or no because I don't know.... Maybe you're right but I will not say you are because I don't know the facts....
GangMembersAreCo wards

Pleasanton, CA

#11 Dec 16, 2008
Meow wrote:
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"Steve" mentioned it. I'm not sure what most are and aren't. I don't know the statistics but I will tell you that many i've seen are Salvadorian, or Guatemalen etc....they just get bunched with the Mexicans cuz they look similar and speak the same language and because they use Mexico as a bridge to cross into the U.S. So I'm not going to say yes or no because I don't know.... Maybe you're right but I will not say you are because I don't know the facts....
Let's stipulate that vermin cowards only come in one color and that's yellow ( and I don't mean Asian).
Here in Los Angeles, the ignorant moron gangs consist of Hispanic, Black, Asian, Armenian, White, and just about any racial or ethnic group.
Meow

Lakewood, CA

#12 Dec 16, 2008
GangMembersAreCowards wrote:
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Let's stipulate that vermin cowards only come in one color and that's yellow ( and I don't mean Asian).
Here in Los Angeles, the ignorant moron gangs consist of Hispanic, Black, Asian, Armenian, White, and just about any racial or ethnic group.
I don't really focus on the color....they're just all dirt to me. Some people may say i'm turning my back on "my people" but it has nothing to do with it.
GangMembersAreCo wards

Pleasanton, CA

#13 Dec 16, 2008
Meow wrote:
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I don't really focus on the color....they're just all dirt to me. Some people may say i'm turning my back on "my people" but it has nothing to do with it.
I concur. "My people" are those who lead an honest life and don not garner self esteem by victimizing others and destroying communities.
I am very sympathetic to those whom live a less than ideal life. Abused, neglected, poor family structure....the pressure to join a gang for protection...whatever the case may be- I feel deeply for them. But what's the solution? Those conditions have always existed and, unfortunately, will continue to exist. Every time an innocent life is taken by gangs, we go over the same factors again and again just to see it continue to happen again and again. More jobs, more activities, more education, more parental involvement, more role models, less police brutality, more compassion, less racism.....
It has gotten to a point where we know the solutions but innocent people and communities are still being infected by this plaque. These vermin are cowards and deserve to be treated like sub-humans.
I still stand by my solution of hard line federal laws against gang membership consisting of mandatory "real time".

What are your opinions?
Meow

United States

#14 Dec 16, 2008
My ideas are a little more extreme.... Extreme problems call for extreme solutions. They violate human rights so they'll never be put in place but I can't see any other ways to work around these problems.

For one....any convicted gang members need to be sterilized.

Tax money that is collected to add additional police on the streets need to be used for just that..more polie on the streets.

Curfews need to be amended and strictly enforced.

Mandatory mental health for the gang member and their family.

Forced relocation. A gang member is nothing without his homies.

Severe punishment. Jail/prison does nothing but fuel the gang mentality. I'm talking physical punishment and labor. I'd go as far as torture. Electroshock therapy, medication, etc....

Make a zoo....lock them up and put them on display for people to bring their kids and show them what will happen if they choose that life. We can stick poor defensless animals in a zoo why can't we do that to dirtbag humans?
Fred

Waynesboro, VA

#15 Dec 19, 2008
The best way to stop gangs is to kill the gang members. Burn their houses. Kill them as they come out. If that is not to your liking video surveillance can get evidence to be taken to the police.
Out for justice

Wappapello, MO

#18 Jan 13, 2009
There is only ONE way to stop gangs, Execute them.
Gangs, especially the bloods and crips are all a bunch of Chicken Sh** pussies who are just too lazy to work and be productive. They are pedifiles and executing them is a good thing. No wonder this country is going down hill. We have eliminated gangs in several towns and we are coming to LA very soon
Gang Hater

Johnson City, TN

#20 Jan 31, 2009
Out for justice wrote:
There is only ONE way to stop gangs, Execute them.
Gangs, especially the bloods and crips are all a bunch of Chicken Sh** pussies who are just too lazy to work and be productive. They are pedifiles and executing them is a good thing. No wonder this country is going down hill. We have eliminated gangs in several towns and we are coming to LA very soon
Please Hurry, It is time to treat gangs like bugs. Squash them and exterminate them.
stan

Missoula, MT

#21 Feb 25, 2009
First trick is to get a whole bunch of used radios with explosives inside. Gang members will buy or steal them from you. When they put it in the car,and turn it on BOOM! Or poison a whole bunch of dope and just lay it on the street corner, it will be taken by some speed freaks or something, then BOOM half the gang dopers gone.Of course you could also snipe them from a long distance, they would never know what hit them.
Of course I do not recomend doing this.
Adam

Johnson City, TN

#22 Apr 17, 2009
Just be aware of what is going on and report suspicious activity to your local authorities.
Pony

Chatsworth, GA

#23 Apr 19, 2009
GangMembersAreCowards wrote:
How to stop gangs?
By not treating them like people.
Damn good point. The more people that own guns in a small town and can carry guns in a small town legally makes a big difference. The gangs do not like it when others have the right to shoot them legally. I lived in Florida in the 90's and they had a big problem with car jacking old people. That went on for a while till the old people got smart and bought guns and started dropping the guys that came up to their cars and tried to take it. It was like within 30 days the car jacking dropped down to almost nothing. Gangs thrive on others fear and as long as they have that they will continue to do as much harm as they can, but when We The People stop living in fear, that's when the gangs start backing out and going somewhere else where they can rule someone else with fear.

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