Toll lanes coming to 3 Southland freeways

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Carpool lanes will be turned into toll lanes on three Southland freeways under a contract signed Thursday by federal and local officials, the U.S Transportation Department reported. Full Story
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Jesus Cristo

Garden Grove, CA

#1 Dec 11, 2008
uh, lemme get this straight, the Government is going to CHARGE ME MONEY to drive on a FREEway that my TAX dollars already paid for? I bought it, I own it, I take care of it, now I get to pay to use it?
These FREEways are YOURS and MINE! Not the Governments!
Remeber the great California Governor Pat Brown, he never would have let this happen!
Unfortunately, ANARCHY is a felony....
AFewTruths

Waianae, HI

#2 Dec 11, 2008
That's just what I am thinking! We paid for them and we maintain them with our taxes. This is not the only issue Governor Brown would not have let happen - take a look at our schools.
Rick C

La Habra, CA

#3 Dec 11, 2008
This is robbery. Another case where our overpaid politicans can put more money into their pet projects. We as taxpayers have already paid for these roads and they should not be made into toll roads. Let's face facts folks, our politicans have wasted our money and now are looking at ways to put money back into the coffers. Let's vote these bums out of office and get someone in who knows what they are doing. Enough is enough
Got it now

AOL

#4 Dec 11, 2008
How many times do we have to pay for these roads? Is the state going to wave the per gal fuel Tax...just asking
just a californian

Hacienda Heights, CA

#5 Dec 11, 2008
Thanks Tony! I am glad we have a mayor that cares. I hate CA politicians!
Freeway Toll Revolt

West Covina, CA

#6 Dec 11, 2008
Jesus Cristo wrote:
uh, lemme get this straight, the Government is going to CHARGE ME MONEY to drive on a FREEway that my TAX dollars already paid for? I bought it, I own it, I take care of it, now I get to pay to use it?
These FREEways are YOURS and MINE! Not the Governments!
Remeber the great California Governor Pat Brown, he never would have let this happen!
Unfortunately, ANARCHY is a felony....
A revolt would not be anarchy. A revolt on this would succeed just like the property tax revolt that brought Prop. 13. Protesting is the American way.

The day we roll over and just allow the government to tax us without representation is the day we cease to be the United States of America. We are having our civil rights dismantled piece by piece a little at a time so now it is time to revolt.

I thought Measure R would take care of all the transportation improvements. What do you think of tolls on existing freeways that have already been paid for with bonds 40 years ago?

We need to proudly revolt as a group of citizens and just ignore the law. The media generated by not paying all these traffic toll tickets will garner world attention and give us the spotlight our local leaders have failed to bring us. We should not stand by idle this time.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_11198685

Some L.A. freeway carpool lanes will become toll lanes
From news services
Posted: 12/11/2008 05:38:37 PM PST

LOS ANGELES - More than 60 miles of Southland carpool lanes on three freeways will be converted into toll lanes under a contract signed today by federal and local officials, according to the U.S Transportation Department.

Under the contract, involving Caltrans and the MTA, the federal Transportation Department will provide $210 million to pay for new toll collection equipment, said federal Transportation Secretary Mary E. Peters.

When the project is complete, motorists will have to pay a toll to use what are now High Occupancy Vehicle, or carpool lanes, on 28 miles of the San Bernardino (10) Freeway from Union Station east to the San Gabriel (605) Freeway; and 33 miles of the Harbor (110) Freeway carpool lanes from Adams Boulevard to 182nd Street.

A second phase will convert carpool lanes between Pasadena and Irwindale on the Foothill (210) Freeway into what are being called HOT, or high occupancy toll lanes.

"Los Angeles' willingness to try something new will mean less traffic, better transit and a cleaner environment," Peters said in Washington.

The Bush administration has long sought to tie federal transportation aid to local agencies implementing congestion pricing, where tolls are imposed on motorists willing to pay more to bypass slower traffic. Critics call such efforts "Lexus lanes."

One of the three routes marked for conversion was the subject of an earlier experiment, when the San Bernardino Freeway lanes

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were opened up to carpools with just two people, instead of three. After traffic immediately jammed up, the minimum limit went back to three.
Kathy

Burbank, CA

#7 Dec 11, 2008
A tax revolt is coming and a tax revolt started this country. Our gas taxes get taken to pay for other things since we don't seem to maintain our roads, our bridges, etc. This is only the start of our toll roads as the state's decifits mount up. Watch we will have many more and they will never go away.
ELO

Valencia, CA

#8 Dec 11, 2008
What A Rip Off. Anything to get more money . Now the ( Special People) rich don't have to car pool anymore.
showmethecity

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Dec 11, 2008
Why are they building more and more WALLS on the freeways?
they are ugly, costs money and attract graffitti.
the freeways have been without walls for over 50 years!...
NO NEED FOR THEM,.. STOP WASTING OUR MONEY!!
Lee

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Dec 11, 2008
Talk about highway robbery!

“America & LEGAL Americans 1st”

Since: Aug 08

Chatsworth

#11 Dec 11, 2008
What we should do is to encourage the general public NOT TO BUY A TRANSPONDER. If you don't buy, it won't cost you anything. If the public does not buy the program will die of its own weight.

Protest accomplished.
Jim

Sylmar, CA

#12 Dec 11, 2008
The country is completely taken over by the international corporations and bankers. Youtube video- "America, Destroyed by Design" partially details the sell out of infrastructure, national parks, ports and military bases to Chinese and other foreign entities. How great are the general public to be taxed before we revolt? I have not paid income tax for 8 years. It isn't easy, but the alternative is to be bled dry. Of course the very rich are unaffected and the USA continues toward becoming third world.
Concerned Parent

Waianae, HI

#13 Dec 11, 2008
What a fricken joke! these roads have been more than paid for. A toll lane to replace the car pool lane! We need to pay more attention to who is voted in to our goverment before they distroy us all. I flat out refuse to pay a toll to drive any freeway in LA other than the 73 once or twice a year to advoid the Irvine traffic when going to San Diego. Our roads are crap, no matter where I go it seems the conditions of the road is worse by the day. I will car pool but I will not pay a toll. Californiana we need to unite on this, refuse to use the toll road.
Danny V

La Crescenta, CA

#14 Dec 11, 2008
THE OBHAMA BS HAS ONLY JUST STARTED BOYS AND GIRLS.
IT IS SAD FOR ME TO THINK OF MY MANY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE GIVEN THIER LIFE IN WARS FOR THIS COUNTRY AND THIS IS WHERE IT HAS GONE ! IT IS STILL THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK ON EARTH ! WE ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND EDUCATE THE OTHER ILL THINKING PEOPLE "IMHO"
holycrap

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Dec 11, 2008
this is f*cking bull sh1t. F*CK YOU
Jam the transponders

Perris, CA

#16 Dec 11, 2008
This is FRAUD. Every bond, every cent of the gas tax and Federal dollar spent on car pool lanes should be returned to California taxpayers with interest after that is done then we can talk about converting public roads to revenue streams.
Danny V get informed this is occurring under the Bush administration.
Concerned Parent

Waianae, HI

#17 Dec 11, 2008
Danny V wrote:
THE OBHAMA BS HAS ONLY JUST STARTED BOYS AND GIRLS.
IT IS SAD FOR ME TO THINK OF MY MANY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE GIVEN THIER LIFE IN WARS FOR THIS COUNTRY AND THIS IS WHERE IT HAS GONE ! IT IS STILL THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK ON EARTH ! WE ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND EDUCATE THE OTHER ILL THINKING PEOPLE "IMHO"
This has nothing to do with Obama. you can thank Bush and government in general but Obama has not caused this.
brain

Marina Del Rey, CA

#18 Dec 12, 2008
Danny V wrote:
THE OBHAMA BS HAS ONLY JUST STARTED BOYS AND GIRLS.
IT IS SAD FOR ME TO THINK OF MY MANY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE GIVEN THIER LIFE IN WARS FOR THIS COUNTRY AND THIS IS WHERE IT HAS GONE ! IT IS STILL THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK ON EARTH ! WE ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND EDUCATE THE OTHER ILL THINKING PEOPLE "IMHO"
Obama is not even in power yet jackass, shut your mouth.

Back to the topic, I find it quite amusing that our tax money goes to bail out greedy crooked corporations, and our taxes that are supposed to pave the road for bridges and roads are given to the companies who lobby the most to do the building of the infrastructure, and then after all that is said and done, we pay for it again with tolls. What a bunch of crap, this is the united states of corruption.
setag

Bellflower, CA

#19 Dec 12, 2008
Hello Transportation Department there are called Freeway because we the people have already paid for these freeways and they are suppose to be FREE. You cant charge us for something we have already paid for you fricken IDIOTS.
Jason

Fullerton, CA

#20 Dec 12, 2008
Let me see if I've got this straight... They used OUR money to build these lanes, then are going to CHARGE US for using them?

It just don't seem right to me. I'll support it if I get a refund for the taxes of mine that were spent to build the lanes from the proceeds!

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