California Proposition 19: the Mariju...

California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 7, 2010

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waco1954

Monroe, LA

#11031 Jun 14, 2012
Ronald seems to be insane.That is unfortunate.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#11032 Jun 14, 2012
waco1954 wrote:
Ronald seems to be insane.That is unfortunate.
yes and seems to enjoy seeing his name on the screen. Medical pot might benefit him.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#11033 Jun 14, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
you by your own admission admit to breaking the law.
mushrooms, you say? my guess is you probably do all the drugs. including heroin.
you are typical of the problem on capitol hill. drug addicts that believe they are above the law.
I do not break any law.(I am not on Capital hill, but on the other side of the Atlantic.

And yes I believe from experience and witnessing, and books studies and paper researches that cannabis, salvia and mushroom are wonderful medication for the physical health, the mental health and the spiritual health. I have seen only benefits after 30 years of observation around me.

Heroin? No thank. Alcohol? No thanks (or very occasionally by social pressure). Tobacco (OK, but in oral snus form. Cigarettes almost killed me).

I have been once called, by parents, to help their daugher. I was told she was a druggy, desperate, and unable to work,(and the exams were close). I asked, "what drug?". They answer me that it was cannabis, and that they have confiscate it. I told them to give the cannabis back to her, and to tell her to study for the exams, without comments. They trust me and did exactly that. She succeed the exam, and we have never talk again about cannabis, or any problem related. The problem with MJ is the fuss made by people about it.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#11034 Jun 14, 2012
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not break any law.(I am not on Capital hill, but on the other side of the Atlantic.
And yes I believe from experience and witnessing, and books studies and paper researches that cannabis, salvia and mushroom are wonderful medication for the physical health, the mental health and the spiritual health. I have seen only benefits after 30 years of observation around me.
Heroin? No thank. Alcohol? No thanks (or very occasionally by social pressure). Tobacco (OK, but in oral snus form. Cigarettes almost killed me).
I have been once called, by parents, to help their daugher. I was told she was a druggy, desperate, and unable to work,(and the exams were close). I asked, "what drug?". They answer me that it was cannabis, and that they have confiscate it. I told them to give the cannabis back to her, and to tell her to study for the exams, without comments. They trust me and did exactly that. She succeed the exam, and we have never talk again about cannabis, or any problem related. The problem with MJ is the fuss made by people about it.
Bruno24.

Please pardon me for butting in, but if you need to rationalize your addiction to mind rotting pot, you need not suffer exile in far away lands across the Atlantic. Have you ever considered Long Beach? Long Beach is blessed with a temperate year 'round Mediterranean climate.

Long Beach is home to one of the most radical of the State's incredibly expensive taxpayer funded State universities. Perhaps in large part because of the "culture" that grew out of academia after the '60s '70s revolution, local "university trained" politicians and their high paid staff use hard earned taxpayer money enabling them to spend their time advocating the "regulation" of illegal mind rotting "medicinal" pot dispensaries.

If you are fortunate enough for your addiction to have progressed to the point where a Government "doctor" will certify your "need" for pot, your disability would qualify you to free food in the form of taxpayer funded food stamps. You would be "in like Flynn",*(so to speak)* As a recipient of taxpayer funded food stamps, you would be exempt from the requirement to pay the city's Lowenthal grocery and goods bag harassment tax that is required of the increasingly impoverished minority of city residents who pay taxes.

While the city's taxpaying minority are required to pay the harassment tax - UNDER PENALTY OF LAW!- you could give the finger to the taxpaying minority in proper '60s era fashion. Taxpayers would be none the wiser, because free-spending out-of-control California politicians load hard earned taxpayer money - most of which is paid by NON tobacco smokers - into EBT "wealth transfer" cards. Thus, you would not even need to suffer the stigmatization of having your pot/taxpayer dependency known to those who would be forced to pay for it. Come! Join us! The city needs more taxpayer funded "stimulus" money!

Ronald
Provocateur

Denver, CO

#11035 Jun 15, 2012
Annual Causes of Death in the United States
Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0

So if it's the drugs that make us do and say the things we say and do. I wonder what it is that makes Ronald and Asian guy think that people can't see through their disinformation. The Heritage Foundation please couldn't you find a supporting story by the John Birch Society or the Phillip Morris web site?

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#11036 Jun 15, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
Bruno24.
Please pardon me for butting in, but if you need to rationalize your addiction to mind rotting pot, you need not suffer exile in far away lands across the Atlantic. Have you ever considered Long Beach? Long Beach is blessed with a temperate year 'round Mediterranean climate.
Long Beach is home to one of the most radical of the State's incredibly expensive taxpayer funded State universities. Perhaps in large part because of the "culture" that grew out of academia after the '60s '70s revolution, local "university trained" politicians and their high paid staff use hard earned taxpayer money enabling them to spend their time advocating the "regulation" of illegal mind rotting "medicinal" pot dispensaries.
If you are fortunate enough for your addiction to have progressed to the point where a Government "doctor" will certify your "need" for pot, your disability would qualify you to free food in the form of taxpayer funded food stamps. You would be "in like Flynn",*(so to speak)* As a recipient of taxpayer funded food stamps, you would be exempt from the requirement to pay the city's Lowenthal grocery and goods bag harassment tax that is required of the increasingly impoverished minority of city residents who pay taxes.
While the city's taxpaying minority are required to pay the harassment tax - UNDER PENALTY OF LAW!- you could give the finger to the taxpaying minority in proper '60s era fashion. Taxpayers would be none the wiser, because free-spending out-of-control California politicians load hard earned taxpayer money - most of which is paid by NON tobacco smokers - into EBT "wealth transfer" cards. Thus, you would not even need to suffer the stigmatization of having your pot/taxpayer dependency known to those who would be forced to pay for it. Come! Join us! The city needs more taxpayer funded "stimulus" money!
Ronald
Thanks Ronald, but I am just born in Europa. Also I am not addicted to pot. I have an addiction to tobacco, but it is not a problem with snus. My favorite plant is salvia, and it cures all addiction, habituations and compulsive behaviors, even when we are not interested in curing them, like with my tobacco-snus.
The reason why I am for the legalization of marjiuana and all drugs are purely driven by my concern to be able to provide the real information about all substances to the public, and to make health politics consistent, and to help the cure of people really addicted to drugs (legal or illegal). And, well, to solve the corruption problems.
In my country the number of heroin users has diminish a lot when they made it (unofficially) legal to prevent the spreading of AIDS. I sincerely believe that drugs are not really a problem, unless they become illegal, because this gives an incentive to criminals to sell hazardous products to the kids.
Retired N Lovn it

Pomona, CA

#11037 Jun 17, 2012
"It's still illegal?" ...."We should face our problems, HEAD ON!" Barbra Streisand, after hitting a joint she lit at the Forum in a <<<1972>>> fund raiser for McGovern. It is LONG OVERDUE!!!!

“The QUEEN BEE has spoken”

Since: Aug 09

The TRUTH will set you FREE.

#11038 Jun 17, 2012
Retired N Lovn it wrote:
"It's still illegal?" ...."We should face our problems, HEAD ON!" Barbra Streisand, after hitting a joint she lit at the Forum in a <<<1972>>> fund raiser for McGovern. It is LONG OVERDUE!!!!
LOL...yes it is.
Chris O

United States

#11039 Jun 17, 2012
Man, this guy is knowledgeable.... Lol
missjacqueOH

Millville, CA

#11040 Jun 18, 2012
If you want respect Please, use spell check and pretend your not a drop out, looser, pot head, slug of a being.Thank You.
Jimbo wrote:
Im all for it. I smoke it everie hour im awaik. As and offishal i can say i stronglie support it. Vote Scattinni for police cheif there two.
fiting for you!
Jimbo
missjacqueOH

Millville, CA

#11041 Jun 18, 2012
Please use spell check and pretend your not a drop out, looser, slug type of being. Thank-You.
Provocateur

Los Angeles, CA

#11042 Jun 18, 2012
missjacqueOH wrote:
Please use spell check and pretend your not a drop out, looser, slug type of being. Thank-You.
You're telling him?
beyonddone

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#11043 Jun 18, 2012
we have had the unfortunate experience of being the landlords to a medical marijuana dispensary. here are the the facts: the tenants have refused to pay their rent for almost a year, refuse access to their unit so we have no idea what damage they have done and are a general nuisance to the other neighbors. The "patients" totally disrespect the property as well as neighboring properties. They park wherever they choose without regard for "private property" signs, throw their "medicine" bottles all over the parking lots, and leave whatever garbage they have in their cars in the parking lots when they leave. The problem is not the marijuana, it is the fact that the dispensaries are just "legalized" drug dealers.
Provocateur

Denver, CO

#11044 Jun 18, 2012
Hence the term Medical Marijuana.
USMC

Los Angeles, CA

#11045 Jun 19, 2012
Nothing but good can come from the legalization of marijuana. We have been oppressed for way to long
NO BAMA 2012

California City, CA

#11046 Jun 20, 2012
beyonddone wrote:
we have had the unfortunate experience of being the landlords to a medical marijuana dispensary. here are the the facts: the tenants have refused to pay their rent for almost a year, refuse access to their unit so we have no idea what damage they have done and are a general nuisance to the other neighbors. The "patients" totally disrespect the property as well as neighboring properties. They park wherever they choose without regard for "private property" signs, throw their "medicine" bottles all over the parking lots, and leave whatever garbage they have in their cars in the parking lots when they leave. The problem is not the marijuana, it is the fact that the dispensaries are just "legalized" drug dealers.
Eah Sheddup!!
Raydot

California City, CA

#11047 Jun 20, 2012
beyonddone wrote:
we have had the unfortunate experience of being the landlords to a medical marijuana dispensary. here are the the facts: the tenants have refused to pay their rent for almost a year, refuse access to their unit so we have no idea what damage they have done and are a general nuisance to the other neighbors. The "patients" totally disrespect the property as well as neighboring properties. They park wherever they choose without regard for "private property" signs, throw their "medicine" bottles all over the parking lots, and leave whatever garbage they have in their cars in the parking lots when they leave. The problem is not the marijuana, it is the fact that the dispensaries are just "legalized" drug dealers.
So whats your point?

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#11048 Jun 22, 2012
Bruno24 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Ronald, but I am just born in Europa. Also I am not addicted to pot. I have an addiction to tobacco, but it is not a problem with snus. My favorite plant is salvia, and it cures all addiction, habituations and compulsive behaviors, even when we are not interested in curing them, like with my tobacco-snus.
The reason why I am for the legalization of marjiuana and all drugs are purely driven by my concern to be able to provide the real information about all substances to the public, and to make health politics consistent, and to help the cure of people really addicted to drugs (legal or illegal). And, well, to solve the corruption problems.
In my country the number of heroin users has diminish a lot when they made it (unofficially) legal to prevent the spreading of AIDS. I sincerely believe that drugs are not really a problem, unless they become illegal, because this gives an incentive to criminals to sell hazardous products to the kids.
drugs are not a problem, you say?

I was just reading this article in the bay guardian written by a liberal saying it IS a problem.

and wondering what drugs you are on.
NoBlamer 2012

Mt Meadows Area, CA

#11049 Jun 22, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>drugs are not a problem, you say?
orientals are the problem

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#11050 Jun 22, 2012
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>drugs are not a problem, you say?
I was just reading this article in the bay guardian written by a liberal saying it IS a problem.
and wondering what drugs you are on.
Wow, right! I am on coffee.

Telling me that someone, belonging to some group, said X, is not an argument.

Especially that I agree that there is a big problem with drug.

We only disagree on the solution.

I think that prohibition can only aggravate the drug problem. I begin to think that it create the drug problem.

I suggest legalization, and regulation, and even taxation proportional to their genuinely statistically measurable problems.
In that case, I think that smoked tobacco and alcohol will be expensive, and that the life-insurance will pay you to snus tobacco, to smoke cannabis and salvia, and to consume from time to time many other plants.

Prohibition is only a tool to hook you with expensive inefficacious synthetic drug, instead of allowing the use of natural plants we use since millennia. Prohibition results in an unfair and unhealthy competition with nature and people's ancestral knowledge. It is insane at the start.

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