Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201887 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#211637 Aug 22, 2013
SameoldStuff wrote:
<quoted text>Brokendown Hoveround found on Freeway.
You shouldn't have taken it on the freeway and you should have maintained it better and that wouldn't have happened. Now we taxpayers are going to have to buy you a new one moocher. GET A JOB!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211638 Aug 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Billions? List 'em.
There are Indian cultures that believe there is a separate god for each and every family that has ever lived. That is several billion right there.

As valid as Wicca, or Scientology, or Christianity or FSM or any other religion.

All equal in the eyes of the law
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211639 Aug 22, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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I have little interest in debating with someone who promotes FSM as a religion, and who lies, and who evades the truth. Someone who dances and dodges and ducks. I think that you're not playing with a full deck.
I will show you more respect than you have shown me. "same sex marriage is now legal in more states in the US and more countries every year." is, indeed, a truth. However, it is based on subversion and infiltration. It is based on politicians who change their minds for personal bias, and do not stand their ground. It is not based on science or recognition of the validity of a heterosexual marriage.
Now, having directly addressed your post, and having given you a valid, pertinent response, I am done with you. I have shown you way more respect than you have shown me. And, you deserve none, with all of your dodging and ducking, your "you're not a true American" bullshit, your mockery of religion and the massive amount of people who are still in possession of a belief system. You twisting has bored me to tears, and I will not bandy any more words with a con artist, a corporate puppet, a spin artist.
I don’t care what you like, it is as valid a religion as any other.

You have never ever given any valid pertinent response to anything, don’t kid yourself.

You are free to believe in UFO's, or the Flat Earth Society, or Christianity, or Voo Doo, or FSM, or whatever belief you choose to believe, as long as you don’t try to push your little beliefs rules onto others, we don’t have a problem.

I don’t promote FSM, but I do applaud them, they have done an excellent job at what I personally think they were trying to accomplish.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#211641 Aug 22, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
sheesh, I do not mean to be rude, but we do not agree with you because homosexuality is not normal, for God did not intend for man to use his genitals to put into a rectum that is only suppose to be for bowel movements. God does not create homosexuals and we feel that you are being confused because you obiously have not read in one of our post about the site called "NOT BORN THAT WAY". We are not telling you what to believe, for you or anyone else on this forum can believe whatever you want to, but it seems to us that most people on this forum do not want to believe in God or they do not like some of the Scriptures. If God did not create homosexuals, then it means to us that this is abnormal, just like alot of things that people partake in. Please just let us be and we will let you be. We have studied the Scriptures also and we do have a Greek and Hebrew text and we do also alot of research. Thank you.
Therefore if God didn't create the homosexual, should we hang them? How do you know what a homosexual does with their partner? I have heard many straight people doing that rectum stuff. What's up with that? A lot of homosexuals might want to believe in God but with people like you constantly judging them and belittling them, I doubt they will even look at a Church. You and your coward husband are driving them away.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#211642 Aug 22, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
He was a keynote speaker for President Obama at the Inaguaral Prayer Breakfast in Jan. 2013. This is the most powerful message that I personally ever heard and cried all the way through it. He also spoke at a celebration for President George Washington
He must really be old? He spoke for George Washington and then President Obama. Wow, God is blessing him!
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#211645 Aug 22, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
Heartandmind, I am sorry that you are taking everything I say and turning it around, but you cannot tell someone what to say...... You go ahead and do it your way, but we are doing it our way, the way that we feel that God would want us to do....You have tried to make it sound that we are out there for some reason and purposely hurting children....We love children for we raised 3 of them and for you to suggest that we are hurting them is totally wrong, for we believe that we are helping them by giving them a great start in knowing God through His Son Jesus that can be in their lives and help them with every need including not becoming homosexuals or doing anything that is against our Creator. For this is who we are and this is what God is telling us to do for without God in our lives, we are nothing, for he did it all when he sent His Son to die for our sins and the sins of the world.
Sorry, i had to edit down the characters so there'd be room for me to respond. and, that is in no way "abusive".
i haven't turned one syllable around of what you've said. i have informed you of the ramifications that i have personally seen of what you're doing and what you're trying to "teach". you are not trained professionals in the mental health field. you are, in fact, doing damage to the psyche to children or young adults - in short, you're making thier problems and issues WORSE with how you're handling things. but you choose to continue - just understand that you do or will wear the blood of a suicide victim on your hands with your methods. can you live with that? can you live with the knowledge of causing a young person to kill themselves? if you can, then you'll continue. seriously think about what you're doing and saying.
it's fine to be a person of faith. i am a christian myself. my partner & i are raising our 3 kids to have faith, to follow their faith and to live within the church. but i'm also teaching them not to have any expectations or demands on people that don't choose the same path as they.
you demand that homosexuals change without recognizing that this is who they (we) are. you are who you are. fine. i can live with that. but you can't live with the fact that homosexuals exist - and have since the dawn of time. have existed in all cultures and societies. in all of the animal kingdom. and as we have for eons, we will continue to do so. and since you can't live with that knowledge you decide to attempt to change people. therein lies the difference between us. you expect people to change. we do not. we expect people to live out their lives in peace.
if you truly want to help people, i strongly suggest you find another path. be it homeless people, hungry people or folks that might be physically hindered. but just because you've chosen homosexuals for your special attention, don't expect anything positive to come of your efforts. you're spinning your wheels. and will continue to be met with derision because we all know and understand far better than you homosexuality. why, derision you may wonder? go back re-read your posts from another perspective with an open mind and open heart. and in your posts you'll see an arrogance and a lofty holier-than-thou attitude. neither of which lends itself to "helping" anyone.

rethink your tactics and approach. among other things.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#211646 Aug 22, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
sheesh, I do not mean to be rude, but we do not agree with you because homosexuality is not normal, for God did not intend for man to use his genitals to put into a rectum that is only suppose to be for bowel movements. God does not create homosexuals and we feel that you are being confused because you obiously have not read in one of our post about the site called "NOT BORN THAT WAY". We are not telling you what to believe, for you or anyone else on this forum can believe whatever you want to, but it seems to us that most people on this forum do not want to believe in God or they do not like some of the Scriptures. If God did not create homosexuals, then it means to us that this is abnormal, just like alot of things that people partake in. Please just let us be and we will let you be. We have studied the Scriptures also and we do have a Greek and Hebrew text and we do also alot of research. Thank you.
Suzanne...

I would like to invite you to where I live in Knoxville, TN so that can personally carry out what you believe is God's commandment and "dispatch" me from the planet. If you have the gall to come here day after day and talk about gays not being natural; quoting from scripture, etc. then you shouldn't have a problem pulling the trigger to eliminate me. According to your interpretation of scripture, you'd be doing the world a favor.

You can send me a private message here on TOPIX and I will make sure that you have my address.

Should we set a date?

Now, if you want to consult God--instead of scripture--on how you should deal with homosexuals, that's fine by me. That's what I have encouraged you to do all along.

But if you are a strict adherent to scripture, then you know what you must do.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#211647 Aug 22, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I don’t promote FSM, but I do applaud them, they have done an excellent job at what I personally think they were trying to accomplish.
Here we have Big D distancing himself from his former enthusiasm for the ridiculous FSM. Dishonesty.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#211648 Aug 22, 2013
Big D wrote:
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...You are free to believe in UFO's, or the Flat Earth Society, or Christianity, or Voo Doo, or FSM, or whatever belief you choose to believe,
I'm sure he appreciates your permission but let me remind you once again he neither asked for it or needs it.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#211649 Aug 22, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I don’t care what you like...
Likewise. We don't care what you want.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#211650 Aug 22, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Suzanne...
I would like to invite you to where I live in Knoxville, TN so that can personally carry out what you believe is God's commandment and "dispatch" me from the planet. If you have the gall to come here day after day and talk about gays not being natural; quoting from scripture, etc. then you shouldn't have a problem pulling the trigger to eliminate me. According to your interpretation of scripture, you'd be doing the world a favor.
You can send me a private message here on TOPIX and I will make sure that you have my address.
Should we set a date?
Now, if you want to consult God--instead of scripture--on how you should deal with homosexuals, that's fine by me. That's what I have encouraged you to do all along.
But if you are a strict adherent to scripture, then you know what you must do.
Calm down fruitloops.
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#211651 Aug 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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They have hate and ignorance propped up on arrogance. Idiots on a popsicle stick.
Good description of yourself. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211652 Aug 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I'm sure he appreciates your permission but let me remind you once again he neither asked for it or needs it.
Learn English moron, there are classes you can take.

I didn’t give permission, I am reminding them of their rights under US law, equal rights, no greater or lesser than the rights of anyone else that believes something totally different.

I never once used the word permission, YOU used that word…. Not me
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211654 Aug 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Likewise. We don't care what you want.
I already have what I want, they are legally married and recognized as such. You will not be taking that away from them
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#211655 Aug 22, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I already have what I want, they are legally married and recognized as such. You will not be taking that away from them
Calm down. I am not going to take anything away from you moron.

Like I said. We don't care. What don't you understand about that? This thread is moot anyway, right?
sheesh

United States

#211656 Aug 22, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
It must have been a Chinese horizon, if you got it at WalMart, and it broke....
:-D
With all that out sourcing ya can't expect much. And Britain won't export their sense of humor.:(
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211657 Aug 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Calm down. I am not going to take anything away from you moron.
Like I said. We don't care. What don't you understand about that? This thread is moot anyway, right?
I really pity you, to live your life so stupid, and uncomprehending of what anyone says. I know folks with downs syndrome that understand more than you do.

It must be sad, fortunately you are probably totally unaware of it

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211658 Aug 22, 2013
kookoo wrote:
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Good description of us. Thanks for sharing it.
You're welcome.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#211660 Aug 22, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
To whom it may concern that is responding to my last comment. We do not agree on anything that any of you are saying, for you can tell us until you are blue in the face and we would never accept what you are talking about. All you are trying to do is go round and round about where homosexuality came from and we do not believe for one moment that anyone is born that way. There is scientific evidence if you would just take the time to check out "NOT BORN THAT WAY" and you will find the evidence written by doctors who have done alot of research on that subject and they also say that you are not born with a gene that is a homosexual gene. It is caused by man's sins being passed down from generation to generation. God has told me trough the "HOLY SPIRIT" that you are deadly wrong, so you go ahead and believe what you want and if you say that the "HOLY SPIRIT" says that we are wrong, there is only one way you will ever know and that is at the end of the world. The only thing we feel about this now is that we need to pray for you that you will find the Truth before your death, then when this happens, you will either be in the First Resurrection or the Second and neither of us want to be in the Second. We know that God can help people out of this sin and we do know people that have come out of it and feel so guilty that they sinned against their Creator that they had to also forgive themselves in order to live. They never had feelings again for the same-sex, for God was able to deliver them from their sins. May God though His Mercy help you understand more of his word, for as we said before, the Bible is a puzzle that has to be put all together and after you put the pieces together, all will come together for more understanding. Remember, God's Creation was made perfect and he does not create homosexuals. Why would God create homosexuals today when it is against nature anyway. God made man and woman to have children, for he did not make man & man or woman & woman. God also did not make children without limbs, or create a woman to kill her baby or because what you are saying is that if God is creating homosexuals, then he would be creating all these other things also and that would make God not creating things perfect anymore. After Jesus died and said "IT IS FINISHED", there was no more to say or no more to do for man if they did not accept His Sacrifice on The Cross. Once you start to deviate from Scriptures, you will have many problems trying to understand what is right and what is wrong.
The "deviation" from Scripture is entirely yours. There are no verses in the Bible that legitimately translate into a condemnation of homosexuality. None. Quite the contrary, the Bible CELEBRATES the marriage of David and Johnathan in 1 Samuel.

Secondly, all of the valid science to date shows a genetic connection to sexual orientation. So, if it is not just the random shuffling of genes for evolution, then it is the choice of the Divine. Sure, it is a man and a woman to make a baby, but the world most certainly does NOT need every person reproducing. Having a few non-breeders is a GOOD thing!

Oh, and finally, the Bible does not say abortion is a sin. The only place it really mentions it, it is no big deal.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#211662 Aug 22, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
For your information, we did not get any information from Pat Robertson, for we do not even listen to his program at all. We told the forum that we got our information from a organization of which we support on all the topics that they are involved with. It is called ( saveCalifornia.com ), but the site is "NOT BORN THAT WAY". Pat Robertson may support this group of which we are not aware of, but that is not the issue here. Lesbians can be cured and I have heard many testimonies that homosexuals left that sin and had a difficult time forgiving themselves and also asking God to forgive them, but they did come out of the closet and became straight again. God loves you and he can heal you for God is the Creator of all things and he did not create homosexuals as we stated in the our last thread. He created a perfect world and then man began to disobey Him.
Not one person has ever had their sexual orientation changed through prayer, shock therapy, or any other method. At best, a person might be brainwashed into pretending that they have changed, but the simple fact remains that they are still aroused by thoughts of same sex relationships.

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