Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#203316 Jul 17, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Did you just catch on? I was banned yet again....LOL. I'm the "new ditz" that you were replying to... Sorry it took you this long to catch on.
Maybe I'm not being clear... What particular comment got you banned?

I know who you are.
sheesh

United States

#203317 Jul 17, 2013
Irving wrote:
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Could you slow down your post, Jed? The brilliance is coming in way too fast.
Next to you the deepest recesses of Krubera Cave are brilliant.
sheesh

United States

#203318 Jul 17, 2013
Irving wrote:
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I thought you weren't new here, shitferbrains.
You actually had a thought? Best make a note of that, there's a first time for everything.
sheesh

United States

#203319 Jul 17, 2013
Drop China favored status wrote wrote:
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U.S. needs to drop the most favored trading status from the Communist Chinese at once, America needs it's jobs back.
America says Communist China has Spoiled Tech Tariff Talks.
Do you shop at MalWart? Your source for cheap plastic crap? If so, you better stop.
Clueless

Anaheim, CA

#203320 Jul 17, 2013
What?
laughing man

UK

#203321 Jul 17, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Would you care to elaborate?
Now there's no question that Tennessee Trash is the fink.
laughing man

UK

#203322 Jul 17, 2013
sheesh wrote:
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You actually had a thought? Best make a note of that, there's a first time for everything.
OMFG, you are King Shit of the comebacks.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#203324 Jul 18, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I want you to pay attention to the differences between the following two sentences:
--"Marriage is a cross cultural constrain on evolutionary mating behavior."
--"Marriage MIGHT BE a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior, according to a theory put forth by David Buss and David Schmitt."
--"Marriages have been used by many as a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior--according to a theory. However, since not all marriages involve mating behavior, one CANNOT conclude that marriage IS ALWAYS defined in this manner."
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Now, I know you're a little slow. And I know just how much you're "married" (get it?) to your little definition of marriage. But even someone as witless as you should be able to see how incorrect you are.
If you read the article in its entirety, you will see that your definition applies only to "relationships" and not necessarily "marriage".
I'm sorry my response to your comment was so lengthy. In the future I will try to remember your short attention span and create my responses by way of "sock-puppet theater", which I will then upload to YouTube.
Let me help you;

"Mating is a human universal."

"All known societies have formal marriage alliances between MEN AND WOMEN (emphasis added)."

"More than 90% of all people in all societies marry at some point in their lives."

"In a cross cultural perspective, marriages are usually regarded as formal reproductive alliances (NOTE THE TIE-IN WITH CHILD BIRTH) that contain the features of (a) mutual obligation between husband and wife (NOTE THE GENDER DIVERSITY)(b) rights of sexual access (c) an expectation that marriage will persist through pregnancy, lactation, and child rearing and (d), and recognition of the legitimate status of the couple's children."

There is no 'theory' involved. There is simply a social science identified commonality that encompasses nearly all cross-cultural marriages. The rest of the article addresses their theory.

Face it queen, that single paragraph destroys virtually every claim gay twirl trolls like you make.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#203325 Jul 18, 2013
guest wrote:
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Oh you silly troll. Practicing your copy paste skills again, I see. How many thousands of times have you posted those same exact sentences, as if that will make them mean something? Silly old man.
Might want to check your comprehension skill with the above post...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#203326 Jul 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I'm guessing on Mother's Day YOU got the honors and not the woman who abandoned her children?
guest wrote:
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Would that be an example of an ad hominem attack?
Hardly. A legitimate exposure of someone deliberately depriving a child of their mother. You call that 'ad hominem'???

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#203327 Jul 18, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Marriage isn't defined SOLELY as a bond between man and woman. In 13 states and in 16 countries around the globe, marriage is also defined as a LEGAL bond between same-gender couples.
I know it kills you each time somebody points that out to you.
Oh... By the way... I never did get an answer as to why you were forced to change your name.
Would you care to elaborate?
It is simply stupid to call a mutually sterile, duplicate gendered half of marriage, marriage.

Clearly not the same.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#203328 Jul 18, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Oh... By the way... I never did get an answer as to why you were forced to change your name.
Would you care to elaborate?
A gay troll fishing...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#203329 Jul 18, 2013
Rocky, you are on a roll!!!

Succinct and piercing!

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#203331 Jul 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning. It is why it is considered illegal in many countries, and was here until recently.

Yawn. These are your unfounded opinions. Nothing more. What's illegal elsewhere or elsewhen is completely irrelevant. But don't let facts get in the way of your obsession over anal sex.
KiMare wrote:
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That medical fact has not changed,
You didn't state a medical fact, you stated unfounded opinions.
KiMare wrote:
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and is a major part of how AIDS originated in our country and spread.
Oh, now your going to try AIDS as your talking point. Got it. Yawn. AIDS originated in Africa at the turn of the century. It spread predominately through heterosexual sex and from mother to child for over 60 years before it ever entered the United States and the gay community. Since no one knew it existed, it was spread rapidly through the gay male community, mostly because males tend to have more recreational sex then women, especially in the 70s free love period. Your desire to blame victims for the spread of a disease they didn't know they had is repugnant.

And for the record, if it weren't for the fact that it did become predominant within the gay community, it would have taken decades longer to connect all the various opportunistic infections to each other and a common cause, so our ability to identify HIV as early as we did is in huge part due to the suffering of the early gay carriers. In addition, ALL the major organizations that exist today as related to AIDS prevention, AIDS care, and AIDS assistance were created by the gay community. So make sure to thank them for all the money they saved you in the long run.
KiMare wrote:
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THAT IS STILL COSTING ALL OF US IN MANY WAYS.
Was capitalizing it supposed to make us feel that you are suffering personally? Lot's of diseases cost us. Lots of unwanted pregnancies cost us. Lot's of things cost us. Get over it. The vast majority of people on this planet carrying HIV are straight people. And AIDS has absolutely nothing to due with marriage.
KiMare wrote:
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So take your self-righteous hissy fit and stuff it.
Right back at you, you ugly sanctimonious c*nt.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#203333 Jul 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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However, there is life-long mating behavior among animals, marriage WITHOUT the law.
I see. So now you are going to refer to life-long mating as marriage. Got it.

BTW, those natural life-long mating behaviors among animals include homosexual mating, oh, excuse me, homosexual marriage WITHOUT law.

Smile.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#203335 Jul 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me help you;
"Mating is a human universal."
"All known societies have formal marriage alliances between MEN AND WOMEN (emphasis added)."
"More than 90% of all people in all societies marry at some point in their lives."
"In a cross cultural perspective, marriages are usually regarded as formal reproductive alliances (NOTE THE TIE-IN WITH CHILD BIRTH) that contain the features of (a) mutual obligation between husband and wife (NOTE THE GENDER DIVERSITY)(b) rights of sexual access (c) an expectation that marriage will persist through pregnancy, lactation, and child rearing and (d), and recognition of the legitimate status of the couple's children."
There is no 'theory' involved. There is simply a social science identified commonality that encompasses nearly all cross-cultural marriages. The rest of the article addresses their theory.
Face it queen, that single paragraph destroys virtually every claim gay twirl trolls like you make.
But girlfriend, you ALWAYS gloss over their use of the word "USUALLY" in the first paragraph. This indicates that NOT ALL marriages are regarded as formal reproductive alliances.

Why you don't get it is beyond me.

When a study is presented to a professional journal, every single word is scrutinized. I'm sure they didn't casually throw the word "usually" in their discussion.

And NOTHING in this article even addresses your claim that same-sex relationships or marriages are harmful to children.

You CANNOT draw conclusions from a study that the authors, themselves, did not draw.

Keep yammering, queen... Maybe you'll convince yourself.

Until David Buss and David Schmitt provide us with a study that directly deals with MARRIAGE--both gay and straight--and not mating behavior, you have no case.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#203336 Jul 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Here is the bottom line.
In the first paragraph, they verified my concise statement; Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
As to the rest of the content, I knew exactly where it went. As I noted with my first reference, I have chosen brief summaries that prove my statement.
You should take note of the practice of 'briefness'...
Again, you can find that statement in other articles regarding marriage and mating behavior.
No dear, HERE'S the bottom line. Mating behavior is completely irrelevant to the state issuing a marriage license. Always has been, always will be. All your precious articles regarding mating behavior will ALWAYS be irrelevant. Like you.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#203337 Jul 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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It is simply stupid to call a mutually sterile, duplicate gendered half of marriage, marriage.
Clearly not the same.
It's simply stupid to continue to make claims that have no basis in legal fact.

I'll bet you just bark at the moon when you see more and more states and countries pass marriage equality laws.

The TOP queen gave her official approval for same-sex marriage in the U.K. yesterday.

LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!

“Sara for Fun (( M 2 F ))”

Since: Aug 10

Bahrain

#203338 Jul 18, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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It's simply stupid to continue to make claims that have no basis in legal fact.
I'll bet you just bark at the moon when you see more and more states and countries pass marriage equality laws.
The TOP queen gave her official approval for same-sex marriage in the U.K. yesterday.
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#203339 Jul 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Let me help you;
"Mating is a human universal."
Let me help you; mating is irrelevant to the discussion of marriage. Even if it weren't, gays mate whether you like it or not. You don't get to make up your own definitions of what mating is.
KiMare wrote:
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"All known societies have formal marriage alliances between MEN AND WOMEN (emphasis added)."
Many known societies have formal marriage alliances between men and men and between women and women. The number of these "societies" continues to grow and won't be stopping. NO EMPHASIS NEEDED.

[QUOTE who="KiMare"]<quo ted text>
"More than 90% of all people in all societies marry at some point in their lives."
I highly doubt this figure, but in the end it's completely irrelevant.
KiMare wrote:
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"In a cross cultural perspective, marriages are usually regarded as formal reproductive alliances (NOTE THE TIE-IN WITH CHILD BIRTH) that contain the features of (a) mutual obligation between husband and wife (NOTE THE GENDER DIVERSITY)(b) rights of sexual access (c) an expectation that marriage will persist through pregnancy, lactation, and child rearing and (d), and recognition of the legitimate status of the couple's children."
No one cares about cross cultural perspective. We only care about the perspective of the state. Cross cultures aren't issuing marriages, the state is. The state has no mandates as it relates to mating or procreation.
KiMare wrote:
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There is no 'theory' involved. There is simply a social science identified commonality that encompasses nearly all cross-cultural marriages. The rest of the article addresses their theory.
Commonality is completely irrelevant. You are arguing "tradition". Sorry, that's not a valid argument when it relates to civil rights. Never has been and never will be. Your argument merely demonstrates your desperation.
KiMare wrote:
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Face it queen, that single paragraph destroys virtually every claim gay twirl trolls like you make.
Face it c*nt, NOTHING you have stated has destroyed ANYTHING. Gays are still getting married, their marriages are equal to their heterosexual counterparts, laws are continuing to be changed in order to accommodate and regognize our marriages, and all your fundie twirls, lies and obfuscations about procreation, sterility, essences, anal sex, AIDS and anything else you try and bring into the conversation will never alter that.

You're a loser, fighting a losing battle, on a lost cause.

Oh, and you're ugly to boot.

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