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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Post-religious”

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#158618 Sep 9, 2012
jacques renault wrote:
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he's lowering standards
has a prof ever had his or her official faculty photo in a bike uniform--and now it's in the Chronicle of Higher Ed LMAO he looks like the gay Bluto or part of the Village People
Yeah, I guess if one can't refute what he says then one can comment on what he's wearing in the photo on his school webpage.(Where does it say that it's his "official faculty photo"?)
Becca

United States

#158619 Sep 9, 2012
When is the driving to San Bernardino, California or Riverside?
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#158620 Sep 9, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
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Believe, Mr. Mona, sir, no one is concerned about how you have sex.
In fact, no one even wants to think about how a morbidly-obese, middle-aged cross-dresser like you has sex.
Then why do YOU keep bringing it up?
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#158622 Sep 9, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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If you read his study, you will find he made no conclusions about long term stable gay unions since there were very few.
Instead, he made conclusions about typical gay unions. Unstable, short-lived and more damaging to children than any other.
If they are unstable and short-lived, then how do you know the cause wasn't instability or short-life, instead of that they were gay?

Regnerus compared people raised by stable heterosexual couples, to those raised by unstable mixed-orientation couples, and then declared that “gay” parents have significantly worse child outcomes than do heterosexual parents, though his data does not support that conclusion.

For Regnerus’s comparison even to have begun to be valid, he would either have had to compare 1) stable same-sex-headed households to i) stable heterosexual-headed households, or 2) unstable heterosexual households to ii) unstable mixed-orientation-headed households.

There is no need for any further discussion as to whether Regnerus made a sociologically valid comparison; he did not. This issue alone is the beginning and the end of whether his published study is valid.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#158623 Sep 9, 2012
icouldusesomehel p wrote:
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Good point. Why doesn't he just shut up and go away?
Because it's the only attention he gets.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#158625 Sep 9, 2012
Quest wrote:
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And it didn't, It also didn't answer any other questions about gay parents, either.
Apparently you are incapable of understanding it...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#158629 Sep 9, 2012
"This new evidence is based on the data from the New Family Structures Study (NFSS) of the University of Texas, of which Regnerus was the lead investigator and which in 2011 surveyed 2,988 young adults for the specific purpose of collecting more reliable, nationally representative data about children from various family origins: intact biological families, late-divorced families, stepfamilies, single-parent families, adoptive families, families with a lesbian mother, families with a gay father, and other family types (such as families with a deceased parent or other combinations). The NFSS has already been acknowledged by critics to be “better situated than virtually all previous studies to detect differences between these groups in the population.”2"

http://www.familystructurestudies.com/summary

“Post-religious”

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#158633 Sep 9, 2012
KiMare wrote:
"This new evidence is based on the data from the New Family Structures Study (NFSS) of the University of Texas, of which Regnerus was the lead investigator and which in 2011 surveyed 2,988 young adults for the specific purpose of collecting more reliable, nationally representative data about children from various family origins: intact biological families, late-divorced families, stepfamilies, single-parent families, adoptive families, families with a lesbian mother, families with a gay father, and other family types (such as families with a deceased parent or other combinations). The NFSS has already been acknowledged by critics to be “better situated than virtually all previous studies to detect differences between these groups in the population.”2"
http://www.familystructurestudies.com/summary
Argument ad nauseum.

The Regnerus study doesn't include children who were actually raised by same-sex COUPLES.

FAIL.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#158636 Sep 9, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you serious? Did you have lousy biological parents, whom you hated?
Lets hear the answer.
Absent of that, how can a sane person compare to biological parents, with a gay couple who adopts some other biological parent's child. All things being equal...
Well, scientifically, that would be how one would control for differences caused by sexual orientation. There is no scientific evidence that biological parents are any better or worse at parenting.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#158637 Sep 9, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
I was delighted when Obama flip-flopped on same-sex marriage because I knew he was sighing his own death warrant.
When Obama and Biden were in the Senate, they both supported the definition of marriage as one man and one woman. In fact, Biden helped enact DOMA into law. Now that they've left the Senate and no longer write our laws, they change their minds.

With friends like that, who needs homophobes?
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#158638 Sep 9, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, did he have to stretch to find unstable gays? Since, 91% of gays contemplate suicide and are diagnosed with a depressive disorder, then should he have sought to find the 9%.
Since, 80% of all the AIDS cases are gays, should he have also excluded them. Also, since transsexual is a gender identity disorder should all trans have been excluded.
Indeed, if Regnerus does not include the above, which is the gay norm, then he would not have made a sociologically valid comparison. That is like saying that Harry Hay, Harvey Milks, Oscar Wilde, etc. were gay, but excluding the fact that they were gay pedophiles.
Unless, a study says that no gays commit suicide, no gays were abused as children, no gays do drugs, no gays account for AIDS cases, no gays molest children, and all gays are well adjusted with doctorates and incomes over $250,000 a year, you will not be happy.
Oh puh-leez! Spare us the hyperbole and outright bullshit that you can't prove a word of.

Harry Hay, Harvey Milk and Oscar Wilde were NOT pedophiles and lying about it makes you look desperate.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#158639 Sep 9, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, it does.
FAIL.
No it doesn't.

Read it for yourself: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/...
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#158641 Sep 9, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, did he have to stretch to find unstable gays? Since, 91% of gays contemplate suicide and are diagnosed with a depressive disorder, then should he have sought to find the 9%.
Since, 80% of all the AIDS cases are gays, should he have also excluded them. Also, since transsexual is a gender identity disorder should all trans have been excluded.
Indeed, if Regnerus does not include the above, which is the gay norm, then he would not have made a sociologically valid comparison.
...yawn...

Try again after you read this:

http://www.socialresearchmethods.net/kb/intro...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#158642 Sep 9, 2012
Jerald wrote:
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Argument ad nauseum.
The Regnerus study doesn't include children who were actually raised by same-sex COUPLES.
FAIL.
Denial ad nauseum.

Yes it did, the study says, "less than 2% lived with their parent and partner for all 18 years of childhood."
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#158643 Sep 9, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>When Obama and Biden were in the Senate, they both supported the definition of marriage as one man and one woman. In fact, Biden helped enact DOMA into law. Now that they've left the Senate and no longer write our laws, they change their minds.
With friends like that, who needs homophobes?
With posters like Brian_G, who needs the Sunday Comics?
Saint Peter

Covina, CA

#158649 Sep 9, 2012
Keep flapping.

“Post-religious”

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#158650 Sep 9, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, it does.
FAIL.
Really? All two of them?

LOL. You FAIL.

“Post-religious”

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#158651 Sep 9, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Denial ad nauseum.
Yes it did, the study says, "less than 2% lived with their parent and partner for all 18 years of childhood."
All two of them.

That's the basis for his claim.

FAIL.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#158652 Sep 9, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
With posters like Brian_G, who needs the Sunday Comics?
M.L. is avoiding the issue:
Brian_G wrote:
When Obama and Biden were in the Senate, they both supported the definition of marriage as one man and one woman. In fact, Biden helped enact DOMA into law. Now that they've left the Senate and no longer write our laws, they change their minds.

With friends like that, who needs homophobes?
Why not stick to the point, these are your 'friends' in the Democratic party. Obama has evolved: "The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states’ deciding the issue on their own."

That's just lip service, he's done nothing to further same sex marriage other than open his mouth.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#158653 Sep 9, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Denial ad nauseum.
Yes it did, the study says, "less than 2% lived with their parent and partner for all 18 years of childhood."
Perhaps you can help me find that in the study. I can't find it and neither can the FIND function in my browser.

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