Elliot Rodger murders: fathers of gun...

Elliot Rodger murders: fathers of gunman, victim to take on Washington's pro-gun lobby

There are 66 comments on the Sydney Morning Herald story from May 27, 2014, titled Elliot Rodger murders: fathers of gunman, victim to take on Washington's pro-gun lobby. In it, Sydney Morning Herald reports that:

Los Angeles: They will make an unlikely pair: the father of a murdered college student and the father of the 22-year-old man who, in a violent rage, cut the other son down with a semi-automatic handgun.

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Enough already

Brooklyn, NY

#1 May 28, 2014
Blaming the NRA and politicians for failing to get treatment for another mentally unstable individual? You would think the killers father would have a clue his own kid was in need of help. Why not hold him liable? Why not blame the parents? Because it is not part of a political agenda, that's why. This killer was just as proficient with a knife as he was with a gun. No gun , no problem, just stab them. Bad NRA!
somantra

Voorhees, NJ

#2 May 30, 2014
is he part black or something he I see his lips i'm like.. he look black..
why do I Always think that white people look black?
hockey

Voorhees, NJ

#3 May 30, 2014
you know where he's going..

HE double hockey sticks..

FROM CA

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Jun 2, 2014
You can make all the anti-gun laws in the world and it won't do a bit of good. If there is a will there will be a way for someonee like Elliott
Rodger to get a gun(s)

The best ways to reduce (you can't stop all of it) is to make it easier for people with mental healh issues put in a place where they can't hurt others.
Get Out

Jacksonville, NC

#5 Jun 2, 2014
The killer was on the path to kill for a long - long time, but HIPPA laws prevented his name being submitted into the NICS. Had a red flag popped up in NICS when he went to buy the guns that he had mental issues... He could have been stopped.
sick of the scam

Chicago, IL

#7 Jun 3, 2014
If NAAMI did not lobby for violent schizophrenics like this kid to be out on the street in the first place, six people and one nutcase would be still be with us. Now the the public, law enforcement, paramedics and others have to deal with these people. They cannot be around sharp objects, let alone have three pistols and 400 rounds of ammunition.

Elliot Rodger is a victim of NAAMI as much as the six others were. Had he survived he would be "unfit for trial" and go to the hospital he should have been in the first place.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#8 Jun 3, 2014
Some people blame the NRA and guns, but he killed just as many people with a knife. Want to know the real cause? The drugs he was on. Xanax is one. All of the people who have gone on mass killing sprees as of late had been taking psychiatric drugs.
These drugs can make you feel separated from the world, remove your empathy, make the real world seem like a video game.
What are some Xanax side effects?
"depressed mood, thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself, unusual risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger;"
"confusion, hyperactivity, agitation, hostility, hallucinations;"
http://www.rxlist.com/xanax-side-effects-drug...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#9 Jun 3, 2014
sick of the scam wrote:
If NAAMI did not lobby for violent schizophrenics like this kid to be out on the street in the first place
This is a false statement. NAAMI has done no such thing.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#10 Jun 3, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Some people blame the NRA and guns, but he killed just as many people with a knife. Want to know the real cause? The drugs he was on. Xanax is one. All of the people who have gone on mass killing sprees as of late had been taking psychiatric drugs.
These drugs can make you feel separated from the world, remove your empathy, make the real world seem like a video game.
These are all false statements. Let me give the facts.

Guns kill 32,000 Americans every year. Less than 1,700 are killed by knives.

All mass killers have most certainly NOT been on psychiatric drugs at the time.

Psychotropic medications have side-effects, but all of them are successful at reducing the symptoms of serious mental illness.

There is absolutely nothing about taking Xanax that causes anyone to go on killing sprees.

Please try to be honest.
slenderman

Wilkes Barre, PA

#11 Jun 3, 2014
To think Elliot was a passive, effeminate, gun control advocate before I encountered him.
slenderman

Wilkes Barre, PA

#12 Jun 3, 2014
Which one of you would like to be famous like Mr. Rodger? I can help you.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#15 Jun 3, 2014
Banned wrote:
If mass shootings continue to take place in states like California, Colorado, and the North Eastern section of the US then maybe someone should study the possible impact that being raised in a more liberal minded environment could be having on those who commit crimes like this.
I'm not saying that mass shootings are the result of people being raised in an environment absent of religion or other positive moral influence but it may be worth looking at.
Why do con dumbs have to make every single thing a political issue?

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#16 Jun 3, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Why do con dumbs have to make every single thing a political issue?
You're being ironic, right?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#17 Jun 3, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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You're being ironic, right?
No.
Look at the post I replied to.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#18 Jun 3, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Some people blame the NRA and guns, but he killed just as many people with a knife. Want to know the real cause? The drugs he was on. Xanax is one. All of the people who have gone on mass killing sprees as of late had been taking psychiatric drugs.
These drugs can make you feel separated from the world, remove your empathy, make the real world seem like a video game.
What are some Xanax side effects?
"depressed mood, thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself, unusual risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger;"
"confusion, hyperactivity, agitation, hostility, hallucinations;"
http://www.rxlist.com/xanax-side-effects-drug...
Rose_NoHo.

I have been waiting for years for this. For once, you are right. It was worth waiting for.

Ronald
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#19 Jun 3, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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These are all false statements. Let me give the facts.
Guns kill 32,000 Americans every year. Less than 1,700 are killed by knives.
All mass killers have most certainly NOT been on psychiatric drugs at the time.
Psychotropic medications have side-effects, but all of them are successful at reducing the symptoms of serious mental illness.
There is absolutely nothing about taking Xanax that causes anyone to go on killing sprees.
Please try to be honest.
Dan the Man Chambersburg.

As usual, you assume those who hold an opinion that differs from your own are not being factual. Most persons killed by firearms in the us are persons committing suicide. You might believe that one bent on suicide should die of self-inflicted knife wounds. They simply do not agree.

True, Government drugs can effectively control the behavior of most of the population. They are not the problem. For example, I would judge you to be "a success story". The problem are those who simply "go off" as a result of the known side-effects of Government drugs. One cannot predict with any degree of accuracy which user might become a mass murderer as a result of Government "doctors" prescribing those dangerous violence associated drugs. Your contrary opinion is not non factual. You are simply wrong.

Ronald

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#20 Jun 4, 2014
Ronald wrote:
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Dan the Man Chambersburg.
As usual, you assume those who hold an opinion that differs from your own are not being factual. Most persons killed by firearms in the us are persons committing suicide. You might believe that one bent on suicide should die of self-inflicted knife wounds. They simply do not agree.
True, Government drugs can effectively control the behavior of most of the population. They are not the problem. For example, I would judge you to be "a success story". The problem are those who simply "go off" as a result of the known side-effects of Government drugs. One cannot predict with any degree of accuracy which user might become a mass murderer as a result of Government "doctors" prescribing those dangerous violence associated drugs. Your contrary opinion is not non factual. You are simply wrong.
Ronald
The facts of reality exist independent of anyone's opinion of them. But you are absolutely correct to say that when people make claims that are contrary to the objective facts, they are wrong based on those facts and not because my opinion happens to line up with the facts.

And I completely understand your irrational fear of psychotropic medications. Like most other psychotics, you have an inherent, delusion-based paranoia about any intervention that might treat your illness.

But hang in there, little buddy. Acknowledging that you are sick is the first step in recovery. I believe in you!
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#21 Jun 4, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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The facts of reality exist independent of anyone's opinion of them. But you are absolutely correct to say that when people make claims that are contrary to the objective facts, they are wrong based on those facts and not because my opinion happens to line up with the facts.
And I completely understand your irrational fear of psychotropic medications. Like most other psychotics, you have an inherent, delusion-based paranoia about any intervention that might treat your illness.
But hang in there, little buddy. Acknowledging that you are sick is the first step in recovery. I believe in you!
Dan the Man Chambersburg.

In the interest of comity, as well as Government promoted multicultural diversity,**(promoted for purposes of division and rancor)**, I am patient and long suffering in my efforts to find some means of coming to agreement with you. However, you have previously taken the position that the first step to recovery is - according to well established principles held by the revolutionary ruling class - is to agree with them and their nihilistic agenda. Now, you indicate that normalcy is "a sickness" that should be acknowledged as a first step towards "recovery". While your views views are not altogether incomparable, would you mind offering a clarification?

Please do not misunderstand. I acknowledge that you are likely a typical victim of post 60s 70s era Government schools. Even so, I see fit to urge you to come to your senses. You have previously taken the position that you take some sadistic pleasure when those bent on suicide jump off bridges or tall buildings rather than using the less painful method of suicide by firearm. Now, you indicate that you believe painful self-inflicted knife wounding is a preferable method of suicide as opposed to the use of firearms.

It is well established that most firearms deaths are suicides. I realize revolutionary doctrine as it has been established by the revolutionary ruling class is devoid of compassion as a result of their underlying - often hidden - deep seated psychological conflicts.. Suicide by firearms is a relatively quick, sure, and painless method of death. Shouldn't you try to develop a little compassion for your fellow man? After all, isn't the blood of both the revolutionary ruling class and the greater community of subjugated "normals" red?

Ronald

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#22 Jun 4, 2014
Ronald wrote:
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Dan the Man Chambersburg.
In the interest of comity, as well as Government promoted multicultural diversity,**(promoted for purposes of division and rancor)**, I am patient and long suffering in my efforts to find some means of coming to agreement with you. However, you have previously taken the position that the first step to recovery is - according to well established principles held by the revolutionary ruling class - is to agree with them and their nihilistic agenda. Now, you indicate that normalcy is "a sickness" that should be acknowledged as a first step towards "recovery". While your views views are not altogether incomparable, would you mind offering a clarification?
Please do not misunderstand. I acknowledge that you are likely a typical victim of post 60s 70s era Government schools. Even so, I see fit to urge you to come to your senses. You have previously taken the position that you take some sadistic pleasure when those bent on suicide jump off bridges or tall buildings rather than using the less painful method of suicide by firearm. Now, you indicate that you believe painful self-inflicted knife wounding is a preferable method of suicide as opposed to the use of firearms.
It is well established that most firearms deaths are suicides. I realize revolutionary doctrine as it has been established by the revolutionary ruling class is devoid of compassion as a result of their underlying - often hidden - deep seated psychological conflicts.. Suicide by firearms is a relatively quick, sure, and painless method of death. Shouldn't you try to develop a little compassion for your fellow man? After all, isn't the blood of both the revolutionary ruling class and the greater community of subjugated "normals" red?
Ronald
Awww, that's too bad. Well, you know what they say - one step forward, two steps back.

Hang in there, little buddy. Stay on your meds, keep seeing your therapist, and maybe some day you can function like a normal, rational human being. I believe in you!

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#23 Jun 4, 2014
Ronald wrote:
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Rose_NoHo.
I have been waiting for years for this. For once, you are right. It was worth waiting for.
Ronald
For once, you realize I'm right.
These drugs are poisons that don't cure a damn thing, and can make a person feel separated from reality. Make them feel it's OK to do things, like shoot up a shopping mall, they would never even really consider if they had not been taking the drugs.

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