Why do America's super-rich feel victimized by Obama?

Oct 2, 2012 | Posted by: Mr_Bill | Full story: www.newyorker.com

One night last May, some twenty financiers and politicians met for dinner in the Tuscany private dining room at the Bellagio hotel in Las Vegas.

The eight-course meal included blinis with caviar; a fennel, grapefruit, and pomegranate salad; cocoa-encrusted beef tenderloin; and blue-cheese panna cotta. The richest man in the room was Leon Cooperman, a Bronx-born, sixty-nine-year-old billionaire.

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Just Saying

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you missed the point. your post whined that the rich are different. my point is they are people with money. people are good and bad whether rich or poor. you are buying the obama and democrat mantra that rich=bad and greedy. look how many billions bill gates is contributing to causes of poor and wretched all over the world. you imply that poor are good, rich are bad....
I don't think I "whined"....that's your faulty hearing...
At no point did I imply that the rich are bad and greedy...I'd like to be rich and powerful...
Stop proselytizing... I believe I said the rich are "different" you interpreted that as "bad"

You failed the logic 101

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<quoted text>they figure the country is going to collapse and the rich know oil is running out, so you see a lot of them buying up property in South America that has its own water supply. They figure they stripped the wealth out of the U.S. for the one percent, they see the U.S. is about to collapse, so they have a big, huge ranch to go and live on with their billions they got in government contracts on the various deals they made with the wars, with prescription drugs, with their Homeland Security businesses. They took all the money and ran. That's why the Bush family has the huge ranch with its own water supply. This is how the end of oil looks. One percent survive. he who has the most billions survives the end of the age of oil.
yawn. media matters talking points. you got some proof about those billions the bushes made from govt contracts? of course, you do have a point about the US on the brink of collapse. four more years of obama would just about do the trick....
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Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>they figure the country is going to collapse and the rich know oil is running out, so you see a lot of them buying up property in South America that has its own water supply. They figure they stripped the wealth out of the U.S. for the one percent, they see the U.S. is about to collapse, so they have a big, huge ranch to go and live on with their billions they got in government contracts on the various deals they made with the wars, with prescription drugs, with their Homeland Security businesses. They took all the money and ran. That's why the Bush family has the huge ranch with its own water supply. This is how the end of oil looks. One percent survive. he who has the most billions survives the end of the age of oil.
That has been the speculation...The idea that "the WORLD is their oyster" is probably not far from the truth. The Bush family didn't just "happen to buy land that had the famous acquafer..." AND you HAVE to know there's ALWAYS more to the story....

If some people want to wear blinders when it comes to their politics, good for them, especially if they are old geezers, it won't make a difference.....

You and I are stuck with trying to make sense of the world....I hate surprises...

Have you heard the saying "Water is the NEW Oil"?? YES, of course you have....
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That has been the speculation...The idea that "the WORLD is their oyster" is probably not far from the truth. The Bush family didn't just "happen to buy land that had the famous acquafer..." AND you HAVE to know there's ALWAYS more to the story....
If some people want to wear blinders when it comes to their politics, good for them, especially if they are old geezers, it won't make a difference.....
You and I are stuck with trying to make sense of the world....I hate surprises...
Have you heard the saying "Water is the NEW Oil"?? YES, of course you have....
Exactly. There's way too many people now so they are hording water now. You're right about that. Before we began using coal, natural gas and oil, the human population was always around 500 million people. Now the world population is about 7 billion. And, with China having 1.4 billion and India having 1.3 billion and those two nations rising up, having new middle classes that all want to buy cars and want to manufacture more, use more oil all the way around, and they want more food and better quality of food, so now we are down to he who has horded the most billions wins. Only the uber rich will be able to afford to ride on planes, to have cars, to have proper food and water.

The old tea party folks want a one time easy and simple answer. All they think is Fox TV told them, all they have to do is put the Repubs back in control and all will be done for them, all the problems will be solved, and they will all get their socialist security checks and their government Medicare, which is ALL they care about. Like you said, good thing they are old.
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yawn. media matters talking points. you got some proof about those billions the bushes made from govt contracts? of course, you do have a point about the US on the brink of collapse. four more years of obama would just about do the trick....
I am not even a Dem. You have such a low IQ that you think I am repeating something someone else said, because that is ALL the tea party is capable of doing. What are you an idiot that you don't get it that Dick Cheney wants a never ending war on terror and zero cuts to military spending and he was the CEO of Halibuton and he owns tons of stocks in Haliburton and he gave Haliburton over $200 BILLION in no bid government contracts in Iraq, and when he did so his stocks in Halibuton tripled in value. You people blindly believe a few billionaires on TV?? You don't even know everything is always done for money and to follow who make the money?? You think this is a fairytale where Fox TV fixes everything for you?? If so, why is it those folks like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh have NO credentials?? Beck did not attend college and Limbaugh dropped out of high school. they are NOT economists, energy experts, attorneys, politicans. They have NO credentials at all. Those people charge you for their website memberships, sell you people their books, make their TV and radio ratings off of you. What do you get from them?? They get rich off of you and tell you who to vote for. It's sick.

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<quoted text>Exactly. There's way too many people now so they are hording water now. You're right about that. Before we began using coal, natural gas and oil, the human population was always around 500 million people. Now the world population is about 7 billion. And, with China having 1.4 billion and India having 1.3 billion and those two nations rising up, having new middle classes that all want to buy cars and want to manufacture more, use more oil all the way around, and they want more food and better quality of food, so now we are down to he who has horded the most billions wins. Only the uber rich will be able to afford to ride on planes, to have cars, to have proper food and water.
The old tea party folks want a one time easy and simple answer. All they think is Fox TV told them, all they have to do is put the Repubs back in control and all will be done for them, all the problems will be solved, and they will all get their socialist security checks and their government Medicare, which is ALL they care about. Like you said, good thing they are old.
plenty of young people who support tea party principles of limited government. awful lot of generalizations about millions of people you don't know. there are those who would describe that as small-minded bigotry....
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plenty of young people who support tea party principles of limited government. awful lot of generalizations about millions of people you don't know. there are those who would describe that as small-minded bigotry....
The tea party wants massive socialism. It wants socialist security and government Medicare for themselves ONLY, and those two programs have over $120 TRILLION of debt, and same Tea Party wants a war with Iran, yet our big three spending items are Medicare, Social Security and military spending, adding up to over 80 percent of the federal budget. So don't lie that you all want spending cuts. You want tiny discretionary spending cuts. You do not want any cuts to the big three spending items.

Young people know global warming is upon us and they know all about war profiteering. Some of them are not stupid. We do not need 80 million greedy old people on 3 or 4 government pensions sucking all the money out of the local, state and federal government. You people are ONLY out to try to live really big off of government monies.

The young people do not want to be taxed to death and indebted to death to pay you all to live fat when you are old. They want to deal with global warming and move off of foreign oil and onto solar energy, they do not want anymore oil wars, and that is why so many young people love Ron Paul so much. You are in the past, they are the future. This country cannot pay it's old people $5-20,000 a month in tax monies so they can live fat and not provide education nor good paying jobs to its young people. You being able to get SS and Medicare depends on a large, employed, educated working younger generation paying into SS and Medicare in order for you to collect your big, fat socialism. So this idea that you old people can simply screw the young in every way is not even realistic, let alone it is selfish and sick.
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because they might have to pay for in taxes than the middle class and poor. so afraid it will hurt their checking account. if i have to file my to irs each year and pay so do the rich

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<quoted text>The tea party wants massive socialism. It wants socialist security and government Medicare for themselves ONLY, and those two programs have over $120 TRILLION of debt, and same Tea Party wants a war with Iran, yet our big three spending items are Medicare, Social Security and military spending, adding up to over 80 percent of the federal budget. So don't lie that you all want spending cuts. You want tiny discretionary spending cuts. You do not want any cuts to the big three spending items.
Young people know global warming is upon us and they know all about war profiteering. Some of them are not stupid. We do not need 80 million greedy old people on 3 or 4 government pensions sucking all the money out of the local, state and federal government. You people are ONLY out to try to live really big off of government monies.
The young people do not want to be taxed to death and indebted to death to pay you all to live fat when you are old. They want to deal with global warming and move off of foreign oil and onto solar energy, they do not want anymore oil wars, and that is why so many young people love Ron Paul so much. You are in the past, they are the future. This country cannot pay it's old people $5-20,000 a month in tax monies so they can live fat and not provide education nor good paying jobs to its young people. You being able to get SS and Medicare depends on a large, employed, educated working younger generation paying into SS and Medicare in order for you to collect your big, fat socialism. So this idea that you old people can simply screw the young in every way is not even realistic, let alone it is selfish and sick.
i've heard of class warfare, but not age warfare. so you really want to throw grandma off the cliff! good luck with that one.
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i've heard of class warfare, but not age warfare. so you really want to throw grandma off the cliff! good luck with that one.
You don't think. Paul Ryan divided the country up into those over 55 and those under 55, pitted them against each other, divided the nation by who will get SS and Medicare and who won't.

One minute the Tea Party claims they can all make it on their own, the minute they hear they might not get big government money and government health care, they all cry they are poor and dependent on the government.

So which is it?? Are you all big investors who have big estates to live off of retired, capitalists, rugged individualists or are you dependent broke folks who did not save one cent and did not have the smarts to build estates while you worked??

If you all are dirt poor and spent all your money and were not smart enough to invest in real estate or stocks, etc., then you are the welfare folks, the socialists, the dependent ones.

You all spent all of your money, most of you make less than $50,000 a year so you don't even pay federal income taxes, you all are dependent on government pensions and on government health care, on socialism, you're not independent and you are not one bit against socialism. What you are doing is you are telling other people to go without the things you refuse to go without, you're telling young people to work for nothing AND to somehow save and build their own estates and not to expect SS and medicare so that you all can use up all the money in those programs on yourselves. You all are the biggest phonies that ever lived. You are dependent people fighting over entitlements for yourselves, nothing more, nothing less.
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And what are all of these people doing who are low income earners, completely uneducated doing paying people like Hannity and O'Reilly $50 million per year buying their books, buying their website memberships, buying their show tickets, giving to their charities so they can write all those charity deductions off on their taxes, keeping their radio and TV shows going so they can make $50 mil. a year off of you and they give you nothing, zero, squat, and they sell you a third war, a war in Iran, they sell it to you to stay on ending oil, they tell you what wars you will have, what energy you will use, who to vote for while they collect $50 mil. a year off of you while you make less than $50,000 a year and will be taxed more to pay for them to profit off of more oil wars. What a waste.

“It's a Brand New Day”

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Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>The tea party wants massive socialism. It wants socialist security and government Medicare for themselves ONLY, and those two programs have over $120 TRILLION of debt, and same Tea Party wants a war with Iran, yet our big three spending items are Medicare, Social Security and military spending, adding up to over 80 percent of the federal budget. So don't lie that you all want spending cuts. You want tiny discretionary spending cuts. You do not want any cuts to the big three spending items.
Young people know global warming is upon us and they know all about war profiteering. Some of them are not stupid. We do not need 80 million greedy old people on 3 or 4 government pensions sucking all the money out of the local, state and federal government. You people are ONLY out to try to live really big off of government monies.
The young people do not want to be taxed to death and indebted to death to pay you all to live fat when you are old. They want to deal with global warming and move off of foreign oil and onto solar energy, they do not want anymore oil wars, and that is why so many young people love Ron Paul so much. You are in the past, they are the future. This country cannot pay it's old people $5-20,000 a month in tax monies so they can live fat and not provide education nor good paying jobs to its young people. You being able to get SS and Medicare depends on a large, employed, educated working younger generation paying into SS and Medicare in order for you to collect your big, fat socialism. So this idea that you old people can simply screw the young in every way is not even realistic, let alone it is selfish and sick.
This is parody, right?

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