California Proposition 19: the Mariju...

California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

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Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15585 Mar 23, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>It has the ability to lessen the side effects of chemo and radiation treatments and pain relief for some ailments but there is no evidence out there that it HEALS or CURES anything in humans. That's a myth from those who would like to be able to stay under the influence daily to ward off future illnesses that may come along.
True.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15586 Mar 23, 2013
If it cured cancer do you think the insurance companies would still favor expensive chemo and other treatments?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15587 Mar 23, 2013
Mr Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>
speaking of fear??
Did you just get released from rehab? Go back and read the last few weeks of comments and maybe you will understand what you are responding to. It had nothing to do with you or Bush. Bush didn't do it, now take a hit.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15588 Mar 23, 2013
Mr Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>
the national cancer institute has issued a report on CBD oil.
Maybe you can't read, the NCI says the pot oil can help with the treatment of cancer-related side effects, such as nausea and vomiting. They never said it cures cancer....L I A R ! Are you pushing for the pot oil to be legal only? I agree it's much safer then smoking it.
phaines

Big Bear Lake, CA

#15589 Mar 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Did you just get released from rehab? Go back and read the last few weeks of comments and maybe you will understand what you are responding to. It had nothing to do with you or Bush. Bush didn't do it, now take a hit.
who wants to read the last few weeks of comments?just more vitriolic and venomous verbiage :)

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15590 Mar 23, 2013
phaines wrote:
<quoted text>
who wants to read the last few weeks of comments?just more vitriolic and venomous verbiage :)
Then why reply to it?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15591 Mar 23, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
YOUR brother beating cancer with CBD oil????
it's amazing the lies that drug addicts will go to to get their hits.
bro, the reason why illicit drugs are prohibited is because they make you brain dead. everybody knows this. EVEN YOU.
I lived in Berkeley when the rage was marijuana, lsd, etc. I've seen the harm the stuff does to a person.
no way should any illicit drugs be legalized.
I agree the part about the bogus claims that pot cures the world and it's the drug talking, but with that said, I see a lot of well educated professional people that smoke pot everyday, that couldn't be said for LSD. Bad comparison. Plus with your opinion, why would alcohol be legal? Do legal cigarettes cause harm? I've seen the harm done by consuming high amounts of sugar, go to a Hospital, they are filled with gastric bypass surgeries.
phaines

Big Bear Lake, CA

#15592 Mar 23, 2013
phaines wrote:
<quoted text>
who wants to read the last few weeks of comments?just more vitriolic and venomous verbiage :)
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Then why reply to it?
just pointing out the obvious
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

#15593 Mar 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you can't read, the NCI says the pot oil can help with the treatment of cancer-related side effects, such as nausea and vomiting. They never said it cures cancer....L I A R ! Are you pushing for the pot oil to be legal only? I agree it's much safer then smoking it.
this is a newer study....

it came out tHis year.

here are everal more like it, one from pacific u in SF.. The other study, from 2000 at th U of madrid.

your question? cbd only??

i think you know me better than that......

im pro-medicinal AND pro-recreational....

like you said, why should weed be illegal when booze is celebrated.

especially when it helps with so many ills.

Chemo, on the other hand, destroys healthy neighboring cells that a cancer patient needs to fight the tumors.

Cannabidiol protects that surrounding tissue. that was the other finding....... in addition to it stopping and reversing tumors in mice....

gee no wonder the plant is prohibited....

the chemo market is worth tens of billions a year, juST in the US.

you only need like 40mg's a dose, of cBD oil to fight cancer....

so in other words, a three month course of canna-meds only runs a few hundred $, instead of into the tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars, like chemo or surgery will run ya.

Ive heard stories of CBD oil CURING people with LATE stage cancer as well.

although i doubt it will cure EVERYBODIES cancer, it will likely be the wonder drug of the century.

if the governemnt will only please proceed with human trials.

cheers...

ps: my brother in law is doing GREAT!!

you know how scared for him, i was bro???

what a relief!!
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

#15594 Mar 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I agree the part about the bogus claims that pot cures the world and it's the drug talking, but with that said, I see a lot of well educated professional people that smoke pot everyday, that couldn't be said for LSD. Bad comparison. Plus with your opinion, why would alcohol be legal? Do legal cigarettes cause harm? I've seen the harm done by consuming high amounts of sugar, go to a Hospital, they are filled with gastric bypass surgeries.
all you need to do is look up states Medicinal cannabis laws.....they state specifically which diseases are covered.

those diseases are covered because there is overwhelming empirical evidence that ingesting cannabis helps with the symptoms of those diseases....otherwise they wouldnt have done it.....

cancer, crohns, alzeimers, epilepsy, parkinsons, mS, cateracts and gluacoma, are the main ones....

it may take you a while to come around on this, because you are an old recalcitrant rethuglican mule??? but you will, i can see it already....

at least 6 states now have dispensary systems!!

hurrah!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15595 Mar 23, 2013
Mr Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>
this is a newer study....
it came out tHis year.
here are everal more like it, one from pacific u in SF.. The other study, from 2000 at th U of madrid.
your question? cbd only??
i think you know me better than that......
im pro-medicinal AND pro-recreational....
like you said, why should weed be illegal when booze is celebrated.
especially when it helps with so many ills.
Chemo, on the other hand, destroys healthy neighboring cells that a cancer patient needs to fight the tumors.
Cannabidiol protects that surrounding tissue. that was the other finding....... in addition to it stopping and reversing tumors in mice....
gee no wonder the plant is prohibited....
the chemo market is worth tens of billions a year, juST in the US.
you only need like 40mg's a dose, of cBD oil to fight cancer....
so in other words, a three month course of canna-meds only runs a few hundred $, instead of into the tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars, like chemo or surgery will run ya.
Ive heard stories of CBD oil CURING people with LATE stage cancer as well.
although i doubt it will cure EVERYBODIES cancer, it will likely be the wonder drug of the century.
if the governemnt will only please proceed with human trials.
cheers...
ps: my brother in law is doing GREAT!!
you know how scared for him, i was bro???
what a relief!!
You have no medical background, therefore: post the websites from which you are making these claims. If it cured cancer do you think the insurance companies would still favor expensive chemo and other treatments? There are a lot of factors then just saying your brother in law was solely cured by pot oil. If you want to stick to that argument, then post his medical and lifestyle history. Do your homework. Like I asked: when did you get released?

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15596 Mar 23, 2013
Mr Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>
all you need to do is look up states Medicinal cannabis laws.....they state specifically which diseases are covered.
those diseases are covered because there is overwhelming empirical evidence that ingesting cannabis helps with the symptoms of those diseases....otherwise they wouldnt have done it.....
cancer, crohns, alzeimers, epilepsy, parkinsons, mS, cateracts and gluacoma, are the main ones....
it may take you a while to come around on this, because you are an old recalcitrant rethuglican mule??? but you will, i can see it already....
at least 6 states now have dispensary systems!!
hurrah!
I have, they all say cannabis helps with symptoms, that's it. So will alcohol. So can cocaine. Just smoke it and have fun.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15597 Mar 23, 2013
phaines wrote:
phaines wrote:
<quoted text>
who wants to read the last few weeks of comments?just more vitriolic and venomous verbiage :)
<quoted text>
just pointing out the obvious
Isn't it obvious?
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

#15598 Mar 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
If it cured cancer do you think the insurance companies would still favor expensive chemo and other treatments?
our health insurance systems seems quite comfortable with the current arrangment.

a health system geared towards catastropic care....

you asked a larger question.... so you get a larger answer

NO, the US is not a country that tries to keep its health care costs down, by way of preventative care or medicine you can grow in your back yard.....the for profit system we have, discourages that.

havent you noticed the multi billion dollar pharmaseutical industry with their million side effect, dangerous drugs(that they push all day long on TV?) NO??

why not??

they certainly arnt interested in homeopathy or alternative cures that ANYONE can grow in their back yards...

it would severely cut into profits

big pharma fought tooth and nail back in 92' to keep suppliments off the shelf at health food stores. what does that say about them?

cheers

any more softballs??

watch mike moores documentarym sicko, you sicko...

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15599 Mar 23, 2013
Mr Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>

the chemo market is worth tens of billions a year, juST in the US.
LOL..do u think it's some kind of game that the insurance approves and the Doctors perform chemo on patients when they really know that pot will save the life? You might be a good reason that not everyone should smoke pot.
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

#15600 Mar 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I have, they all say cannabis helps with symptoms, that's it. So will alcohol. So can cocaine. Just smoke it and have fun.
i guess your not much of a science guy...

mabey you should look at the study before telling what is in it.

it is recent, so you may have to dig....

we went over this before.....be a big boy and surf the real internet.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15601 Mar 23, 2013
Mr Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>
at least 6 states now have dispensary systems!!
hurrah!
Big deal, let's get rid of them, make pot legal for everyone like alcohol. Government also knows who exactly and how much pot you buy at those dispensaries, your privacy is exposed. they are watching you.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15602 Mar 23, 2013
Mr Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>
our health insurance systems seems quite comfortable with the current arrangment.
.
BullSH*T: they are always trying to cut costs and prevention.
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

#15603 Mar 23, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You have no medical background, therefore: post the websites from which you are making these claims. If it cured cancer do you think the insurance companies would still favor expensive chemo and other treatments? There are a lot of factors then just saying your brother in law was solely cured by pot oil. If you want to stick to that argument, then post his medical and lifestyle history. Do your homework. Like I asked: when did you get released?
like i said, there are multiple studies and you are a big boy.

if you are interetsed in it, you will surf and study it.

if you are a chronic doubter of all things new and untried//

then you will be trying to discount the information WHILE you are reading it.

so go find the studies, i think ive given you multiple places to start.....if you dont go through with the research, I will just think you arnt that interested...

good day sir...

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#15604 Mar 23, 2013
Mr Anderson wrote:
<quoted text>
i guess your not much of a science guy...
mabey you should look at the study before telling what is in it.
it is recent, so you may have to dig....
we went over this before.....be a big boy and surf the real internet.
Just show us the link, otherwise stop making up stuff or what you read in High Times.

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