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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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OhStewOne

Covina, CA

#204243 Jul 22, 2013
Oh Tommy Tucker your a jerk!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#204244 Jul 22, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Oh no, Sweet Pea, you were utterly and completely dismissed.
You still labor under the misconception that your opinion has any relevance to my actual marriage.
With each passing day, more and more legally recognized SSM's become a reality.
You can hold a piece of paper from any court around and dismiss me, but you still are nowhere near married.

That is unchangeable reality.
OhStewOne

Covina, CA

#204245 Jul 22, 2013
Oh Tommy Tucker your such a jerk today or any other as I'm told.

Spots did change much either.
Pietro Armando

Schenectady, NY

#204246 Jul 22, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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I can never tell where you stand on this issue (actually I can) because out of one side of your mouth you talk as though polygamy is inevitable. And then it's "Katie, bar the door!"
But then on the other hand, you talk about how banning polygamy represents inequality.
So which is it? Are you for polygamy or against it?
I still stand by my comment that this decision in no way helps polygamy.
These decisions were based on the fact that 1.) Those in favor of Prop. 8 didn't have standing. 2.) In those states where marriage is legal for same-gender partners, DOMA--which banned federal benefits and protections--was unconstitutional.
Until polygamy is legalized in a state, they're not going to be able to fight for federal benefits.
And since polygamy has already been addressed by the Supreme Court, I don't know if it will have a chance or not.
That's "their" fight.
If you want to say that it's unfair to seek marriage equality for same-gender couples but not polygamists, then that's your right.
Not being a polygamist, I'm not going to enter the fray.
Does it really matter? Why does it matter to u or any other SSMers if polygamy in some form is legalized? You speak of "marriage equality", in in reality, it's a rejection of marriage conjugality. The sole defining marital legal standard. The ultimate goal, if not admitted, is the rejection of monogamous conjugal marriage, nationwide. Why does it matter if polygamy is legal, or even incest?
Hank

Los Angeles, CA

#204247 Jul 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Oy vey. Weight stories. But Frankie is off topic if he mentions poly MARRIAGE. Priceless.
Yer a funny lil' queer, Frankie. A funny lil' fruit.
Sails

Covina, CA

#204248 Jul 22, 2013
We don't care Hankie, or is it Frankie?

It's all over with, the ship has set sail.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#204249 Jul 22, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You can hold a piece of paper from any court around and dismiss me, but you still are nowhere near married.
That is unchangeable reality.
I do hold a piece of paper, but that's not what REALLY makes us married, and you know it.

Your "nowhere near married" ASSessment is nothing more than opinion.

Troll on, Deary.
guest

Long Beach, CA

#204252 Jul 22, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Are you really that easily intimidated?
LOL
Turn off the computer.
I am not intimidated by anyone. So go fck yourself troll. Oh wait, u are a limpdik and can't get it up.
guest

Long Beach, CA

#204253 Jul 22, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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His posts make sense. Yours do not.
No they don't. And neither do yours.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#204254 Jul 23, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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I do hold a piece of paper, but that's not what REALLY makes us married, and you know it.
Your "nowhere near married" ASSessment is nothing more than opinion.
Troll on, Deary.
The reunion of a man and woman in marriage reflects the very roots of human existence, genderless life.

Go back in a ss couples' history, and what do you find? Immediately? A mother and father.

Which brings us to the life-giving result of a man and woman united in marriage reaching into the future.

A ss couple? No past, and no future. A duplicate gendered half of marriage making the hilarious claim they are the same.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#204255 Jul 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The reunion of a man and woman in marriage reflects the very roots of human existence, genderless life.
Go back in a ss couples' history, and what do you find? Immediately? A mother and father.
Which brings us to the life-giving result of a man and woman united in marriage reaching into the future.
A ss couple? No past, and no future. A duplicate gendered half of marriage making the hilarious claim they are the same.
Here we go again, the ability or intent to have children has never been a requirement for a marriage license.

Same sex couples are married now, legally and recognized at the state and federal level

Your ignorance of the facts, does not in any way change the facts

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#204256 Jul 23, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Here we go again, the ability or intent to have children has never been a requirement for a marriage license.
Same sex couples are married now, legally and recognized at the state and federal level
Your ignorance of the facts, does not in any way change the facts
Here we go again...

1. I'm talking about marriage identifying with the very roots of human life. You ignore the incredible significance of that fundamental essence.

2. You dumb down marriage to a piece of paper. I'm talking about the past and future life and life giving fruit of marriage, something ss couples have absolutely NO identification with in any way.

3. Moreover, you foolishly attempt to deny the connection between the very existence of life, including homosexuals and marriage. Marriage is the wise constraint of human culture combined with nature's mating behavior to produce the best and safest place for reproduction.

This separation DEMANDED by couples who have zero potential of mutually procreating human life, placed on the only couples best suited to do so. Not just inappropriate, but idiotic.
mark

Seaside, CA

#204257 Jul 23, 2013
that seems to be the aim of the govt. continually go against what the people vote for and eventually the small minority of the population that actually votes will become smaller.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#204258 Jul 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The ....
Every one of your opinions had been countered, repeatedly. You've stated nothing new here, Hunty, just the same old opinions.

You are, therefore, summarily dismissed.

Words define reality, as you've so often stated. The word that I have is marriage, specifically my duplicate gendered marriage. Nonetheless, it is a marriage.

Troll on, Pastor.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#204259 Jul 23, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Every one of your opinions had been countered, repeatedly. You've stated nothing new here, Hunty, just the same old opinions.
You are, therefore, summarily dismissed.
Words define reality, as you've so often stated. The word that I have is marriage, specifically my duplicate gendered marriage. Nonetheless, it is a marriage.
Troll on, Pastor.
Oh please, humor me again. I can't remember your counter of my last post.

Marriage clearly does not define your relationship.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#204260 Jul 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Here we go again...
1. I'm talking about marriage identifying with the very roots of human life. You ignore the incredible significance of that fundamental essence.
2. You dumb down marriage to a piece of paper. I'm talking about the past and future life and life giving fruit of marriage, something ss couples have absolutely NO identification with in any way.
3. Moreover, you foolishly attempt to deny the connection between the very existence of life, including homosexuals and marriage. Marriage is the wise constraint of human culture combined with nature's mating behavior to produce the best and safest place for reproduction.
This separation DEMANDED by couples who have zero potential of mutually procreating human life, placed on the only couples best suited to do so. Not just inappropriate, but idiotic.
You can talk about your personal opinion all day long, that the moon landings were faked, that the earth is flat, that UFO's land in your yard all the time and that same sex couples are not married.

You are wrong of course, but you are free to have those false beliefs if you want to.

The fact is, we did land on the moon, the earth is spherical, there is no proof whatsoever that UFO's have landed on your yard and same sex couples are married, legally and recognized on the state and federal level.

You are the one that keeps denying facts

People can decide to have children or not regardless of marriage, you do understand that don’t you? I know you are clueless but the question is... just how clueless are you?

Marriage is a legal contract recognized at the state and federal level.

People that don’t believe in any of the billions of Gods man has dreamed up are married, people that believe in different Gods than you are married.

It isn’t tied to any religion, it isn’t tied to having children it isn’t tied to your personal opinion.

You can squirm to deny facts all day long, it doesn’t change the facts.

Same sex couples are indeed married, whether you comprehend it or not.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#204261 Jul 23, 2013
Big D wrote:
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You can talk about your personal opinion all day long, that the moon landings were faked, that the earth is flat, that UFO's land in your yard all the time and that same sex couples are not married.
You are wrong of course, but you are free to have those false beliefs if you want to.
The fact is, we did land on the moon, the earth is spherical, there is no proof whatsoever that UFO's have landed on your yard and same sex couples are married, legally and recognized on the state and federal level.
You are the one that keeps denying facts
People can decide to have children or not regardless of marriage, you do understand that don’t you? I know you are clueless but the question is... just how clueless are you?
Marriage is a legal contract recognized at the state and federal level.
People that don’t believe in any of the billions of Gods man has dreamed up are married, people that believe in different Gods than you are married.
It isn’t tied to any religion, it isn’t tied to having children it isn’t tied to your personal opinion.
You can squirm to deny facts all day long, it doesn’t change the facts.
Same sex couples are indeed married, whether you comprehend it or not.
The fact that you associate my post with idiotic statements that have nothing to do with what I actually said only exposes your inability to mount a reasoned response.

Get real big dummy.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#204262 Jul 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The reunion of a man and woman in marriage reflects the very roots of human existence, genderless life.
Go back in a ss couples' history, and what do you find? Immediately? A mother and father.
Which brings us to the life-giving result of a man and woman united in marriage reaching into the future.
A ss couple? No past, and no future. A duplicate gendered half of marriage making the hilarious claim they are the same.
Here is the fallacy in your argument...

You say, "Which brings us to the life-giving result of a man and woman UNITED IN MARRIAGE reaching into the future." (emphasis added)

The truth is that "marriage" is not key in producing offspring. As you and I both know, marriage is a manmade construct that has not been around since the beginning of mankind.

"Anatomically modern humans evolved from archaic Homo sapiens in the Middle Paleolithic, about 200,000 years ago."

"The first recorded evidence of marriage ceremonies uniting one woman and one man dates from about 2350 B.C., in Mesopotamia."

You can see that humans were creating offspring LONG BEFORE marriage came into existence.

In the modern world, we often see children born "out of wedlock".

You misconstrue "mating" as "marriage".

If all of a sudden legal marriage were to be removed from our culture, "mating" would still continue. Children would continue to be born.

In this day and age, people marry for many reasons; one of which is to raise a family. There is no one, singular, universal reason for all marriages.

You always jump the tracks when you confuse marriage and mating. We try to bring you back to the discussion at hand, but you have a death-grip on your "marriage equals mating and offspring" argument.

If you continue to do this, no one will take you seriously. Many of us already know that you are purposefully being misleading because of your agendas.

Don't continue to be a loser.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#204263 Jul 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The fact that you associate my post with idiotic statements that have nothing to do with what I actually said only exposes your inability to mount a reasoned response.
Get real big dummy.
Is this an example of a situation where you are being a "reviler" who won't get into the Kingdom of Heaven, according to Paul?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#204264 Jul 23, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Here is the fallacy in your argument...
You say, "Which brings us to the life-giving result of a man and woman UNITED IN MARRIAGE reaching into the future." (emphasis added)
The truth is that "marriage" is not key in producing offspring. As you and I both know, marriage is a manmade construct that has not been around since the beginning of mankind.
"Anatomically modern humans evolved from archaic Homo sapiens in the Middle Paleolithic, about 200,000 years ago."
"The first recorded evidence of marriage ceremonies uniting one woman and one man dates from about 2350 B.C., in Mesopotamia."
You can see that humans were creating offspring LONG BEFORE marriage came into existence.
In the modern world, we often see children born "out of wedlock".
You misconstrue "mating" as "marriage".
If all of a sudden legal marriage were to be removed from our culture, "mating" would still continue. Children would continue to be born.
In this day and age, people marry for many reasons; one of which is to raise a family. There is no one, singular, universal reason for all marriages.
You always jump the tracks when you confuse marriage and mating. We try to bring you back to the discussion at hand, but you have a death-grip on your "marriage equals mating and offspring" argument.
If you continue to do this, no one will take you seriously. Many of us already know that you are purposefully being misleading because of your agendas.
Don't continue to be a loser.
No fallacy, and nothing misconstrued.

I have always acknowledged the distinction between evolutionary mating behavior and marriage. In fact, YOU are the one who feigned ignorance about it. I accurately note that the cross cultural social construct of marriage effectively enhances the health and safety of procreation.

But this false rabbit trail ignores the fact that marriage connects the past and future of humanity. SS couples do neither.

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