Ramon Renteria: There's no other place like El Chuco

How do you define or describe El Paso? Historians from across Texas were in town the past few days possibly pondering that simple yet often-complicated question. Read more
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Ramon - Supporter

Rodenbach, Germany

#1 Mar 5, 2011
Great topic! How do you describe El Paso? Or even better - how do you describe El Paso without making people feel insulted? By simply using the words "El Chuco", you will have many ELP Times criticize you. But then, that's our history. I remember my oldest brother using that word many years ago. Of course, we grew out of that stage of our lives and continued being integrated into the American society. I moved out of it; but I don't forget my past. I don't forget where I came from and who helped me get to where I am and who I am.
After our generation is gone, all writers will be striving to write like George Will..how sad.
Keep your column coming. To your critics I will say that they can stop reading your columns and read George Will's instead.
Take care of your health. No more gorditas, tamales, menudo with cheese, and tortillas. And stay away from Budwiser.
I wonder how much money is spent by Bud marketing their products to our people!! That's another topic...sorry.
GAS

United States

#4 Mar 6, 2011
El Paso was all those things and is now just a shell of its self.It sure as hell is not any of those things now!
Native Born El Pasoan

Alto, NM

#5 Mar 6, 2011
I lived in El Paso for 35 years after being born there. The article is a nice feel-good Chamber of Commerce piece and well written. That having been said, now in my retirement years, I absolutely hate it when I have to visit El Paso for any reason today. It's just grown way too big and lost way too much of its historical ambiance to be the least bit attractive to me now.
Robert Burke

Edwardsville, IL

#6 Mar 6, 2011
It's a wonderful mix of a city. It is on a fluid border between worlds. The day I retire up here, I am leaving toward El Paso.
Citizen

El Paso, TX

#7 Mar 6, 2011
You forgot to mention what other people think; that we're too nice, too friendly, too willing to help a stranger, too lucky to have great food, men are too handsome, women are too beautiful, that our weather is great year round, and that most of us are happy. You can't go around sad in El Paso, there are just too many great people here.
one

El Paso, TX

#8 Mar 6, 2011
ramon you and your only supporter from germany seem to be the only ones that are misguided! i would be offended if people thought i was sweaty, fat, ugly, dirty, and certainly illiterate like you. veterans overdosed with patriotism? if you don't like it go back to your beloved mexico! also, any el pasoan with a college degree certainly will not articulate in the same manner where you constantly degenderize our vocabulary. to put it in perspective your column is like stink on s-it!
Cypress

Cypress, TX

#9 Mar 6, 2011
How do you describe El Paso? As the Texas A&M football player said many Sun Bowls ago, "THE PIT".
ohnoyoudidnt

El Paso, TX

#11 Mar 6, 2011
everything that ramon renteria described in this article is exactly why el paso does not move forward and succeed.. being proud of the rio grande, chicos tacos, and spanish speaking only individuals is an embarrassment.. this is why the city is so ghetto because of individuals that point such qualities.. this is a PATHETIC article about el paso! you can tell ramon has probably never been anywhere outside el paso!
ohnoyoudidnt

El Paso, TX

#12 Mar 6, 2011
oh, and referring to el paso as "el chuco", even more ghetto! only uneducated individuals and cholos use those words to describe el paso.
ayyy raza

El Paso, TX

#13 Mar 6, 2011
OMG!!!!!. What an embarrassment for El Paso, who hired this idiot to do commentaries about El Paso! I think what Ramon was describing is his segundo barrio, not El Paso as a whole! I'm a hispanic and Ramon does not speak for the rest of El Paso and the well mannered and educated hispanic community. He needs to get the "cholo" out of him and get out of his barrio community to see what ethnic and cultural diversity El Paso has. "El Chuco"? Please! That's so freakn ghetto!
Charlie Sheen

Kittanning, PA

#14 Mar 6, 2011
"There's no other place like El Chuco."

Thank God. Enough said.
Si Mon

El Paso, TX

#15 Mar 6, 2011
Orale big props to my homie Ramon! Puro Chuco town, I love this town more now! All these sluty Juarenas moving over here looking for papers because their vato got killed in the drug war across the border, its like a buffet Ramon. Maybe you should write an article about El Chuco , the town where you can find a nice mexican ruca looking for papers, that would be a nice tourism plot. Orale!!!!
CacaConPelos

El Paso, TX

#16 Mar 6, 2011
Chuco will always be in my heart. It's true what they say that it's a big city with a small town feel.
BxD

Laredo, TX

#17 Mar 6, 2011
I live in San Antonio and I can tell you Ramons article has some truth. I was born and raised in El Paso and I miss it. Yeah this town is beautiful to VISIT. If you live here, you find it boring and have to drive out of town to do things. The only difference I find in the two cities is how politics shaped both cities. El Paso politics lost out on many opportunities and San Antonio bought them. Trust me when I say this. The neighborhoods here are no different in people than any neighborhood there. The native San Antonians are exactly the same as El Pasoans. The difference are the ones that moved here and stayed here. Dont judge a book by its cover unless you read(lived)many of them.
Alan W Gilbert

El Paso, TX

#22 Mar 6, 2011
I wish they wouldn't allow these types of slang words like "El Chuco" and "Jutep" in the EPTimes. Makes me want to throw up when i see these Mexican derogatory slang words like these. WERE IN AMERICA!
HAVE SOME CLASS!
Gabe

El Paso, TX

#23 Mar 6, 2011
Alan W Gilbert wrote:
I wish they wouldn't allow these types of slang words like "El Chuco" and "Jutep" in the EPTimes. Makes me want to throw up when i see these Mexican derogatory slang words like these. WERE IN AMERICA!
HAVE SOME CLASS!
If our idiot congressman sylvertre reyes can go in front of a public setting and get away with say JUtep, it's no wonder why other people sometimes think negatively of El Paso.
Not again

El Paso, TX

#24 Mar 6, 2011
How do you describe El Paso? Well, it would be nice if we could start by dropping some of the antiquated, names like "El Chuco". Maybe you haven't heard, Ramon, but it's not 1950 anymore. There aren't any more zoot-suiters trolling through downtown and most AMERICANS of Hispanic descent don't have names like "El Smiley" or "La Shy Girl"...well...at least the educated, productive ones don't.

How can El Paso ever be taken seriously as a center for commerce, business, and international business when the established class keeps wanting to time-travel back to this "Pachuco" era which LONG AGO PASSED.

More specifically, how can the El Paso Times ever move beyond being a second-rate paper when it keeps pushing out the same pablum from guys like Ramon Renteria? Note to the Times: Mr. Renteria may be a great guy...but...seriously? Still?

Don't think the El Paso community hasn't realized that all you people are doing is just copying AP/UPI threads, press releases and police reports and re-selling them to the unwashed masses.
dont bother

El Paso, TX

#25 Mar 6, 2011
Not again wrote:
How do you describe El Paso? Well, it would be nice if we could start by dropping some of the antiquated, names like "El Chuco". Maybe you haven't heard, Ramon, but it's not 1950 anymore. There aren't any more zoot-suiters trolling through downtown and most AMERICANS of Hispanic descent don't have names like "El Smiley" or "La Shy Girl"...well...at least the educated, productive ones don't.
How can El Paso ever be taken seriously as a center for commerce, business, and international business when the established class keeps wanting to time-travel back to this "Pachuco" era which LONG AGO PASSED.
More specifically, how can the El Paso Times ever move beyond being a second-rate paper when it keeps pushing out the same pablum from guys like Ramon Renteria? Note to the Times: Mr. Renteria may be a great guy...but...seriously? Still?
Don't think the El Paso community hasn't realized that all you people are doing is just copying AP/UPI threads, press releases and police reports and re-selling them to the unwashed masses.


Don't bother, mamon ramon still has his head up his 1960's culo and apparently that's where it's been for the last 50 years.

It's obvious that he hasn't come down from one of the acid trips that he took way back in high school or perhaps from spooking too much with his barrio buddies.

The real shame is that the ept allows this crap to be printed. But I wonder if ept pays him to spew this kind of garbage out week in and week out or mamon ramon pays the times to print his pathetic rants????
EL CHAPO

El Paso, TX

#26 Mar 6, 2011
The nice thing about living in El Paso is that in 10 minutes you are in Mexico.
Ok I know somebody is going to make a stupid comment about Juarez and it's people but you are probably not from here and haven't lived here as long as I have, so its OK, make your stupid comment.
El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#27 Mar 6, 2011
ramom el mamon should take a lesson from Elroy Bode.

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