Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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Don Sclio wrote:
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Well....if you're to say couples of gays are 'mutually sterile' you're stating that both members in a gay couple cannot have kids.
Riiight???
So what happens? When Tony hooks up with Bob do his testicles fall off?? Do Bob's sperm shrivel up and die about the same time Tony's nuts turn into SunMaid raisins?
How about when Susan and Ann get married. Does Ann's ovaries shoot out of her body like cannon balls? Do Susan's fallopian tubes tie themselves into an internal pretzel???
Listen IDIOT. Gays are just as fertile as the rest of the population. If Tony wants a biological kiddy to carry on the family name he better find a surrogate mother given Bob ain't gonna deliver but Tony is just as fertile. Ann can get pregnant through artificial insemination or other means.
BLOWS YOUR MIND doesn't it.
So your statement of gays are infertile because they ARE gays is about as bright as claiming the Sun God burned your TV dinner after you left your Swanson turkey and stuffing Hungry Man feast on high in the microwave for 3 hours and 2 minutes.
PULL YOUR HEAD OUTTA YOUR ASS sunshine. PLEASE.
I was wrong.

You're not gay.

You are a blonde lesbian.

Then they are not mutual anymore, are they.

Idiot.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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The objection is that five individuals, in eccense over turned not only the votes, twice, of millions of Californians, but created a new definition of a significant social institution.
Pietro...

If millions of Californians voted to ban all gun sales in the state, would you agree that the Supreme Court should let their decision stand?

Of course not. There is a Constitutional Amendment that allows for gun ownership.

There is also a Constitutional Amendment that doesn't allow for parts of the Defense of Marriage Act.

Just because millions of people express an opinion at the polls does not mean that they can overturn the Constitution.

The only way to change the Constitution is by way of amendment. There is no amendment barring same-sex marriage.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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Hey sister....it's your words; 'mutually sterile'.
So now I'm a blonde lesbian.
Right on.
Wait around long enough and you'll claim I'm a bi-sexual llama wearing a pair of crotchless lace trimmed panties.
Now you've gone and shocked me.

LOL

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On what basis would society in the end end because anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning? Another poster proved that wrong already. At the most society would waddle, not come to the end.
You are like a worm on hot cement. You twist and turn and twirl, trying to slim out of the corners your denial puts you. I'm not here to support your lies. I'm here to protect marriage and children.
You are getting your ass kicked from every side VV.
Kimare,

Let me try to put this in a manner that you understand. Let's look at history.

Throughout the history of mankind, anal sex has been practiced among straight and gay individuals. It has been going on since the onset of this country. In fact it was probably even more prevalent in history since it was a common means of birth control. There were no condoms. There were no birth control pills. People had to figure out a way early on to have sexual intercourse without always getting knocked up. Now how do you think they did it?

If anal sex were so unhealthy and demeaning, we wouldn't have come this far. Mankind would have ended long ago.

The facts do not support your idea.

Now, let's talk about the contemporary world we live in. In our society anal sex between consenting adults is legal. And none of your bluster and scare tactics will end that.

Finally, please take your attention off my ass. I've seen your photo. You are short. I don't care for short men. And I particularly don't care for short men who are morons. I have standards--none of which you meet.

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Games?
Like making up terms and asking the other party to 'prove' their non-existent claims are not real???
Ohhh brother.
LOL!!!!
One of Kim's favorite games is to create facts when reality stands in his way. It's where his contrived one-liners come from. They're like canned laughter on an old sitcom.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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<quoted text>they turned over the votes that were unconstitutional, as is their job.
no, that definition was already there, they just stopped all those californians from breaking their own constitution...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Propo... (2000)

Prior to 1977, marriage was defined in Section 4100 of the California Civil Code. This stated that marriage is "a personal relation arising out of a civil contract, to which consent of the parties making that contract is necessary".[6] While related sections of the law made references to sex, a State Assembly committee that was debating adding sex-specific terms to this section in 1977 noted: "Under existing law it is not clear whether partners of the same sex can get married".[7] That year, the legislature amended the legal definition of marriage to remove any ambiguity. In 1992 the legal definition of marriage was moved from the Civil Code to Section 300 of the Family Code.
When Proposition 22 came before voters, marriage was defined in the Family Code as "a personal relation arising out of a civil contract between a man and a woman, to which the consent of the parties capable of making that contract is necessary" [italics added].[8]
Even though the definition governing who may marry explicitly precluded contracting a same-sex marriage in California, a separate provision, Section 308, governed recognition of marriages contracted elsewhere. This stated that a "marriage contracted outside this state that would be valid by the laws of the jurisdiction in which the marriage was contracted is valid in this state".[9] Advocates of Proposition 22 described Section 308 as a "loophole", apparently forcing California to recognize a same-sex marriage validly contracted in some other state.[10]
To address this, Proposition 22 did not reword the existing provisions of the Family Code, but added to them the declaration that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California".[11] The official citation of Proposition 22, the "California Defense of Marriage Act", is almost the same as that of a federal law, the Defense of Marriage Act, which was enacted by Congress in 1996. This federal law had a similar purpose, and was intended to prevent any state from being obligated to recognize a same-sex marriage contracted in another state.

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Pietro...
If millions of Californians voted to ban all gun sales in the state, would you agree that the Supreme Court should let their decision stand?
Of course not. There is a Constitutional Amendment that allows for gun ownership.
There is also a Constitutional Amendment that doesn't allow for parts of the Defense of Marriage Act.
Just because millions of people express an opinion at the polls does not mean that they can overturn the Constitution.
The only way to change the Constitution is by way of amendment. There is no amendment barring same-sex marriage.
The problem with that analogy is you chose a specific constitutional right. Marriage isn't me tinned in the constitutional at all. Californians went to the polls to maintain a definition of a legally recognized relationship which had existed since the birth of the State, even earlier than that. The voters did amend the state constitution, per established procedure. If the vote had gone the other way, would any SSM advocate object to the process?

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Natural families?
Families consist of gay and straight couples, including those with kids moron.
Unfortunately for you your efforts at inventing a new terminology based on your messed up system of thought doesn't exist.
Disagree???
Find just one reference to a "default family" you f-ing IDIOT.
Just one.
-Tick tock...the clock is running.
".....inventing new terminology"? Like "homosexual", "heterosexual" , "gay" to refer to "homosexual"? Not exactly terms that are centuries old.

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<quoted text>oh wow1 totally biased report for a totally biased foundation...
so not even one social scientist to cite from? not even one?
Gee why not quote HRC, not any bias there......oh Madone! So it only "bias" when it eminates from sources you dislike, but not "bias" when you like the source? Got it, IMAPP bad, HRC good. Thanks Woody for the intellectual honesty.
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<quoted text>What wrong sugarnipples, Still confused about what sex you are?
No. You?
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Riiiight.
I call bullshit.
Next...
I call you bullsh!t.
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Err...
...same sexed couples are made up of individuals whom represent the whole and are fertile genius.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/fertility/
"same sexed". What a dope.
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DOH!
You missed on that dart throw idiot - I'm not gay but think what you want.
P.S.....gay couples can often adopt those children cast out by their own parents because their biological mommy and daddy units wanted to eradicate themselves of their offspring.
I swear....you could wear 2 sets of Depends, have a cork shoved no less than 3" up your ass and grease your butt, legs and feet with a mix of Crisco and Pam cooking spray and you'd still manage to shit on yourself with these DUMBASS comments you make.
ROFL!!!!!!!!
Wow! Great post. So intellectual. ROFL!!!!!!!!
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-Tick tock...the clock is running.
Tick tock... you are a dope.
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A.) Never claimed kids were "better off" without their biological parents troll. Add to that "natural parents" is a term utilized by you and that other shitforbrain poster KiKrazy and not an accurate description of biological parents.
B.) I did advise kids whom are in abusive situations with the source being their biological parents would be better off elsewhere. Of course you might think momma giving her 3 month old baby daughter a disinfecting cleaning with 2 buckets of boiling water might be a good thing given you seem to be just that STUPID.
---If you're going to lie....at least TRY and be sly about it jizzhead...OK?
LOL!!!
A) You asked him for proof, so I asked you for proof.
B) You're a moron.
C) You're a lying jackass.
LOL!!!
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Maggot Maggie is a hating c(_)nt, you just revealed your true colors bub...rot with Kimare.
Very tolerant and diverse.

Trying to argue that children are not one of the main reasons marriage was invented is stupid and counterproductive.

There is no need to do that. You have a right to equal protection regardless of if you have children or not.

You are stupid.
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Stay with the game you started.
Can't?
You lose.
Idiot.
Problem with Don Sclio is he's so stupid he doesn't know he's stupid. So when he loses he doesn't know it, he thinks he's won.
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Well....if you're to say couples of gays are 'mutually sterile' you're stating that both members in a gay couple cannot have kids.
Riiight???
So what happens? When Tony hooks up with Bob do his testicles fall off?? Do Bob's sperm shrivel up and die about the same time Tony's nuts turn into SunMaid raisins?
How about when Susan and Ann get married. Does Ann's ovaries shoot out of her body like cannon balls? Do Susan's fallopian tubes tie themselves into an internal pretzel???
Listen IDIOT. Gays are just as fertile as the rest of the population. If Tony wants a biological kiddy to carry on the family name he better find a surrogate mother given Bob ain't gonna deliver but Tony is just as fertile. Ann can get pregnant through artificial insemination or other means.
BLOWS YOUR MIND doesn't it.
So your statement of gays are infertile because they ARE gays is about as bright as claiming the Sun God burned your TV dinner after you left your Swanson turkey and stuffing Hungry Man feast on high in the microwave for 3 hours and 2 minutes.
PULL YOUR HEAD OUTTA YOUR ASS sunshine. PLEASE.
Calm down fruitloop.
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Don Sclio wrote:
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Hey sister....it's your words; 'mutually sterile'.
So now I'm a blonde lesbian.
Right on.
Wait around long enough and you'll claim I'm a bi-sexual llama wearing a pair of crotchless lace trimmed panties.
You forgot to LOL!!!!
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Now you've gone and shocked me.
LOL
Me too. A llama in crotchless lace trimmed panties. What kind of sick mind...

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