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#214
Sep 3, 2012
 
Pastor gardner aint giving tht fool none of the churches money. She letting tht bum live for free.The church already was messed up because of Pastor choice in her 3rd marriage. But it was still hanging on with a few members not as much as it was but it was alright. then tht fat coogie wearing fool walks in and the half tht stayed during Pastor Gardner mess and dumb choices. But now tht he there they all leaving smh tht church can close right now and I promise it would not be many people fighting to kep it open becase tht how many has left. If all the old members come back put tht B!tch out and get it back to the way it was it would be great!!
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#215
Sep 3, 2012
 
So this is what Derek does run the old faithful members away to bring in the new young women to try and get them in bed. Derek just give it up go back home to your mommie.
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Hi everyone I haven't had a Chan e to read and respond to the last few.months of comments on this forum long story short. I live in Detroit and was absolutely floored when I read what Derek had been doing in l.a. I was just at a service with his mom on Friday. People' Derek famikily the rimsons. Are nothing. Like him. The rimsons have an excellent history in cogic. He is ruining his family's name. He did the same this g here but he's a thousand times worse now. I don't understand why the people in these. Hutches continue. To allow him into their. Hutches. It seems everything he touches is e eventually destroyed. Believe me I was one of Derek s biggest supporters because once upon of time he was using his gift from. God to help people heive seen him lay hands on people and they were delivered. I'm not giving him credit or trying to set him on high now because I don't know the. Es and disapproved version of Derek. Its a tragedy people why has he. Den allowed to represent. God and destroy so many lives. Is it a message to the people of God to watch more and pray more keep your eyes and faith on.God and only him. It's a message in this. Continued tragedy. Wake up church.
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Alicia wrote:
Hi everyone I haven't had a Chan e to read and respond to the last few.months of comments on this forum long story short. I live in Detroit and was absolutely floored when I read what Derek had been doing in l.a. I was just at a service with his mom on Friday. People' Derek famikily the rimsons. Are nothing. Like him. The rimsons have an excellent history in cogic. He is ruining his family's name. He did the same this g here but he's a thousand times worse now. I don't understand why the people in these. Hutches continue. To allow him into their. Hutches. It seems everything he touches is e eventually destroyed. Believe me I was one of Derek s biggest supporters because once upon of time he was using his gift from. God to help people heive seen him lay hands on people and they were delivered. I'm not giving him credit or trying to set him on high now because I don't know the. Es and disapproved version of Derek. Its a tragedy people why has he. Den allowed to represent. God and destroy so many lives. Is it a message to the people of God to watch more and pray more keep your eyes and faith on.God and only him. It's a message in this. Continued tragedy. Wake up church.
Alicia in what way were you Derek's biggest supporter? Was that paying you tithes, giving offerings, laying on your back, or on your knees?
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Good Morning to all God's people lets thank him for extending another day to us. Even in this forum lets give him honor and glory. I have been checking in and realizing despite the issues and notes, we are respectful more of each other comments. See he can meet us any place when we put him in it. We all may not express our thoughts in the same way but we can understand the levels of pain/concern. Also let come out of this a grace period to reflect what God has given to us and his promise of "things will come to pass". Be honest many of you tickle me and say things like I really want to say, but the reality is even at hurtful times such as this its really joy in being able to let go. Do realize forums give individuals not just a talking point but a place to touch and agree. Some of us are closer than we think and despite your names we've assigned to our voiced opinion - we're now a neighboring community across states. So I'm hoping you feel intouched, love and thought of, because I know before writing I prayed a powerful prayer and many of us will be receiving some joy back. So shout "haleiluya" we're in the land of the living, free from Rimsons and ready to receive what God has for us. Stay strong and prayerful and watch our God move on your behalf. No that when he moves you may not see it but you know you will feel him working it out. Take care and God bless you all.
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Alicia in what way were you Derek's biggest supporter? Was that paying you tithes, giving offerings, laying on your back, or on your knees?
With all due respect did you read my post. I said used to be a supporter in Detroit long before his most current deeds. I'm sure you haven't always been good or bad people change. Maybe your experiences with Derek were all bad but at one time in his very young life he was very different. No I didn't have to sleep with him. You need to pray because it sounds like you are confused and taking your frustrations out on innocent people. Believe me what I've heard about him is disgusting but that's God's job to repay.
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#221
Sep 19, 2012
 
I have a lot to say. I dnt come on here and write things I just read it. I will sa this I believe half of what I read and heard about Derek Rimson But Pastor Gardner I know the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth concerning her I dnt feel like typing it all in now, but I will be back on maybe tomorrw. But I will say this she is not as bad as people try to mke her. she is human just like all of us. We all have dne things allof us but because her name rings bells people try and trash her with everything they hear and more then half could be lies. But agains she is not as bad as people try and make her. And the daycare closed down because she was to nice to people and they just walked over and used her. And her asst Pastor left because of JEAlLOUSY nope I dnt agree with Derek being there but tht is for her to see it. But the asst pastor and the rest of his family has dne nothing but walk over her and try to take over her for years and years. She has never really been someone with backbone because she has always wanted to be liked and would take the close off her back foranyone. Shesnot perfect not at all. But she has a heart of Gold. God will deal with all of it and Derek if his purpose with BMO is not right God will surley get him. 'Im just praying he dnt mess up like he did the other church.
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#222
Sep 20, 2012
 
I want to first of all thank you for writing this quote. I do agree that Pastor Gardner is human and has for years allowed people to walk over her. She has never been the same since Mother Oakley passed away. If you remember back, Mother Oakley was the solid voice and the one that kept everything together in the church as well as with Pastor Gardner and Ass't Pastor Martin. Sure we all have made human error and I think it is unfair to throw it on a person without first looking at ourselves. I do agree that Rimson should not be in a pastoral position without counsel first. Remember Rimson is the son in law to Gardner and that speaks volumes....

Once again thank you for your quote...
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#223
Sep 20, 2012
 
Your so right Propheteveans11 tht is her son in law and its speaks volumes. No one knows hat he is telling her just hope tht whatever it is he really does it. Because I cnt see her allowing someone to be over the church and really dont have it at heart. And by the way Derek Rimson is not becoming the pastor he is the Administrator, why I dnt know but th is what it is. And no it was Mother Oakley and Pastor Gardner wth the church. After she passed it was a lot of things going on thts when people really started taking advantage of Pastor Gardner. Pastor Martin and all Pastor Gardner never had a backbone. I will never agree with Rimson being there never. I dnt think him being here is about souls I think its all about gain. But we will see and let God deal with it and handle it. Everyone for years has dealt with thing in the flesh and not in the spirit. Pastor Martin and Pastor Gardner. Everyone wanted to be pastor and used Pastor Gardners week points to allow it to happen. But when she stands up for herself its a problem.She is by far innocent or perfect. But at the end she has a heart and will give the shirt off her back for people. She is human very much so not everything she will do will be good but I cant say she does things purposly to hurt anyone. Shes doing something right almost 70 and looks just as young as osmeone in there fifties. I just think its sad BMO has taking the road it has and all is at fault. From Pastor Gardner to Pastor Martin who has all of BMO, she started her ministry not out soul seaching but threw BMO. Her church V.O.P is another BMO. So she her family or anyone else cant tlk dwn on Pastor Gardner or BMO. All of them have a lot of blood on there hands. But its not to late to make it right and make peace. To much tlkn to many lies and people out for Position greed and gain no souls..
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#224
Sep 22, 2012
 
I feel like the asstt pastor needs to go on ahead and leave whats the point in him still staying. He should have been left when what was dne to his mother tht he turned his back on for Pastor Gardner. He did tht to her thinking he would get a position so he hurt his mother seeking a position. Now look at him. Firt he needs to know and understand calling. And he is not a PASTOR cause now he starting his own church smh these people need to sit down and let God lead. There only position driven. Derek Rimson should not be there even and thts the bottom line but its the pastors choice. The asst Pastor was giving a choice to leave right but he refused, lets get tht out before they start lying. He was giving the choice to be sent out and sent out with prayer but he refused so WHY IS HE STILL THERE AND STILL COMING. And he was ask to not come back anymore. Which I dnt blame.Its annonced tht he was leaving on Sunday so why is he still coming there. And whats crazy is he in church on Tuesday prayer over people and the pulpit and pews Smh BOY JUST LEAVE. He was asked not to come back but he refused to stay away. What is his purpose of still staying based on what he is doing he just trying to grab some members like his Aunt did. Tht whole family is power driven and walk in ministry with one calling and claim God has called them to do something else. ASST PASTOR ANTHONY THOMAS needs to stop go on ahead and do what he gone do and thts leave! No Good will come to this ministry he starting he is not a pastor truth be told he cant even preach but Im gone leave it there. And Pastor Gardner is not innocent but I do know this she did nothing but COVER tht entire Family. From Pastor Alice to her ex husbands and his kids. Tht family is filled with cheaters liars tht whole nine and pastor Gardner coverd it all.Should she have no as a leader but she I guess liked them. When he was bating on his wife pastor Gardner coverd him When Pastor Alice was dealing with tht pastor whos name I will not say she coverd her when there kids in tht family was having babies she coverd them. They used her talked about and all. Yet she gave them all room to grow and go places she opend doors for tht entire THOMAS family. But its all about them wanting to take over the church. I believe thts derek Motives to. And Pastor Gardner is not letting them now they mad and bad mouthing her.When she married her 3rd husband there family member they all knew it was wrong but all they could see was position greed and money from her. When she was married to The father of the asst Pastor and the Brother Of pastor Alice all was good with her she put them on the map. There not classy but she tought them some. And Astt Anthony Thomas needs to tend to his kids looking like who did it why and when but yet he come pressed and clean cut but kids looking a mess. Its crazy tht people dnt know how to let go. Now tht she is not the wife of there family members they cant stand her. And again Pastor Gardner is not innocent but they will not put her in the grave because of there greed and lies. ANTHONY THOMAS JUST LEAVE WITH PEACE STP TRYING TO MAKE A SCENE and being vitim. You get what you put out u left your mother and because of you position driven attitude God is allowing all this to happen. You made our bed ot lie in it shoot the whole family needs to. But what they can do is thank Pastor Gardner along they way. PEACE AND BLESSINGS TO EVEYONE. LET IT GO! Because its gets crazy and scary when truth comes out and people hate tht.
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#225
Sep 22, 2012
 
Again stop going back to the rock of ages stay in the present. why are you trying to make this break about one family and not the stealing, cheating and lying of the other. Judge what you see before you, just try it and its clear and fresh for anyone to see. It's time for someone to respond to the mess, you have a pastor that has allowed the ministry to break while her family take BMO under. With less than 1% I believe the pastor saw the writing on the wall but didn't believe this humble man would exit. If someone doesn't want to except your gift and design for exiting doesn't make you cruel, because it didn't have to be. If anyone follows the A.P. its because they want to be blessed and filled with the word. Why are we calling children names out - truth be told they always looked their best and a GREAT representation of what a family of GOD looks like. Look to the pulpit, Derek hardly ever gave an offering and would not allow the 5 followers to give. Who ever heard of 2 finances/church operating, represents 2 heads and nothing good becomes of that. He hold ministries hostage and take full control of the finance; he must do this so he and his family can have a way to survive. Pastor needs to sell her house before she looses that and make amends with God, there's still a chane. The RIMSONS don't function in reality they make up ministry as they go. Do not believe for one second the pastor only covers, the entire RIMSON family has been covered by the ministry. Not so business oriented when you're bringing in already well to do people and paying them, when the ladies of the church can't even have a functional restroom. Families and visitors were devistated at the conduct and voices there opinion openly as they exit. They will never see a deposit of finances that will make an amend for the lost souls. God has something instored for non-believers, just sit and watch RIMSONS keep stealing and lying to your face. God wants us to stand with truth and stop the wrongs of this man. He could pull out all his Steve Harvey reject suits, smile and lust at your daughters and show your sons how to break a woman. My God look at his wife broken spirit, she has yet realized she missed her blessing by confirming and or allowing the devastation. Yeah she was once discovered by the Devil, translation her husband. Get out Terrie why you can and watch the blessing come down. Free your son from his pain because there will come a day you will realize it's too late. Simply where is your home, car, via the "provider/husbance". Instead you've received pain, broken heart and empty promises. It's in default due to an unpaid debt to GOD, your cost for redemption is TRUTH!
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#226
Sep 22, 2012
 
By no means am I saying tht Derek should be there and has the church at heart. I cant stand the fact tht he is there. But its the pastor choice however the ASST PASTOR needs to stop running victim. First of all he is not mature enough to handle ministry at all. Pastor Gardner is not perfect and did a lot of messing up a lot. But again these same people tht are trying to tear her down are the same people she helped along the way she opened doors for them and all. It was all good some years ago now its not the lady moved away.The Asst Pastor is just tht the asst Pastor and Derek is the Administrator. Why is the Asst Pastor making it something its not. Yes I see Derek sitting in church acting like the pastor and I think its a sin before God. If he can loose his own church and tear up and cause another to be a laundry mat he can surley do the same to BMO. Im not defending Pastor Gardner at all. But for them to be coming up against her like this is not right all for POSITION no one is after souls nore searching for them.Asst Pastor needs to go and not look back WHY IS HE STILL AROUND? HE should have been left but he stayed for POSITION. A position everyone knew he would never get. But he did not see it cause he let his mother go and took on a new one PATOR GARDNER thinking with the connection he would be next in line shoot the Blind and deff man knew tht was not going to happen. HE should be secure enough in his place knowing tht the man above woud handle everything. And to use God and say he is called to pastor smh. He is not at all called to pastor not mature enough and dnt have enogh power. And no one is calling out there family they put themself out there. they need to work on a thing called family pray some of them gernerational curses out of there family before they try doing it to others. Pastor Gradner covered them and if she covered them why not cover her own should she have no not at all but she did . And at the end of the day Derek Rimson with his devil self is her son in law so give her a break on tht. She has made some bad choices in hr life concerning her ministry and I am sure she knows tht. But tht family was right along wih it she did nothing without talking to them so its there fault to.Now let the church say AMEN ON THT NOTE. She did nothing without them approving or making suggestions for her to do it. Yup they ran the church.So it was them tht made all the decisions in the church. She married the man in the family and look wat happen she divorcd him and look what happen. They used tht lady and thts it.And the children no one tlked about them it was what there father dnt do concerning them.Its all nice and crazy and your so right GODGOTIT because he do. People try uuseing there name to cover there mess or the mistakes of another name to make there wrong seem right.Bottom line ASST PASTOR needs to go in peace and let God be God oh he gotta answer to somethings to from what he did to his mother what he use to do to his wife and where his heart is. Because his move has nothing to do with what GOD said do. he is doing this because some man name DEREK RIMSON is there and he cant take it. I would have not let the lil man move me out my place.He is doing what he is doing all for a POSITION thts what he has always been about a position. PEOPLE BETTER STOP PLAY GOD LIKE HE SOME FOOL! And derek he could honestly kick rocks for all I carebecause he is a mess. PAstor Gardner did her stuff but she aint do tht boy wrong he could not stand the what he might have thought was competition. Whats funny is everyone talks about BMO but belive me you GOD will restor tht ministry and when he do Pastor Gardner will still be pastor. Then they can laugh and tlk about her they think there doingso much better.
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#227
Sep 23, 2012
 
I kind of feel the sameway like they get mad when they couldnt run the church something they thought they would get because they been there for so long. An then when they leave they manipulate the people to leave with them. That whole family is bums never really had anything but the church and filled with nothing but divorce cheaters and church tht is. They all including pastor Gardner play with marriage been Married a million times Pastor Martin on her what 3rd or 4th marriage to so she cant talk about Pastor Gardner like she doing and had someone 20 years older then her and used him up until the day he died yet dealing with the new husband that man was brining her money to the dayvcare and all while she was either married to the 3rd or about to marry him. Her kids lol they just looks nasty the sons all cheat on there wives and one of them has 3 babies outside of his wife a se of twins and a new baby who I dnt think is a year yet. And her other son who pops up at BMO every now and then dnt take care of his kids at all and I dnt think even lives with his wife and kids. He daughter can someone say Still a church Wh*re yup. If pastor gardner and her family going down for mes so will they. I could go deep but I wont. Pastor Gardner is smh just sad she dne lost her whole mind when she married Deacon Thomas h was a church whore and still is. She went crazy after that she married him and let her church go because of it. Derek everything thts read on this thing cant be all lies. But I will say this I dnt trust tht bum ither. All of them all families needs to be booted out of BMO and whatever churches they have they are users and liars. Pastor Gardner has vlass and the Thomas family has none. Elder Tony walks around with all his fake Gucci on and other fake brands. Deacon Thomas still wearing the same suits PAstor Gardner bought him. And he running around with this fool who thinks he aint cheating on her and he is Danielle lol so she better make sure he wraps it up and its a women in the church. Who tip toe around like she not dealing with him. And she knows tht man is with Danielle jesus knows tht. Oh I could go in deep on this stuff. THT ENTIRE FAMILY IS MESSED UP GARDNERS RIMSON AND THE THOMAS FAMILY. Mother Oakley is turning in her grave. I can come on here and give the scoop on everyone and everything.
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#228
Sep 26, 2012
 
So Elder Anthony Thomas and some of his family members are really trying to hurt Pastor Gardner. Leave her ALONE!! She did what she did and yíall did what yíall did no one is innocent. Yíall trying to kill her with things she did or said. The woman is almost 70 years old stop trying to kill her. Like jwilson said Pastor Gardner has done nothing but cover each and everyone one of the Thomas Family and help them along the way. But because they canít get what they want and thatís the church there mad. It belongs to her and whoever she chooses to be in there itís her choice. No one knows how God might have dealt with Derek and no one knows the conversation between him and God. Him being there is it the right choice, I donít know. But God does and rather its right or not he will deal with it, itís not our job. So many of Pastor Gardner secrets or things she has done been posted all on this site and people all over talking about her and judging her. So letís see how this goes Pastor Gardner did this and that sheís this and that. Ok now the Thomas family has done just as much dirt as she did. They lie they cheat and do people wrong to including their own family. I wonít say the whole family but a lot of them. Elder Anthony Thomas letís talk; no one has ever done BMO like your dad did Deacon Thomas. No matter his lifestyle and what he did he put BMO first. It was YOU that went to Pastor Gardner about the pictures his kidís mother put up on Facebook when they went away. You said (Mom )because remember you was so far in Pastor Gardnerís tale you left your mother behind you hurt her and Pastor Gardner became your mom so you hurt your mom for a position. But you said Mom this is not right my father canít keep doing this he is destroying the church you need to stop him. You talked Pastor Gardner into sitting your father down. The only man that really did for the church and kept it on its feet. Now the position you caused your father to loose, youíre mad because someone else is stepping in it. Yea I know about how after he was sat down you acting like it wasnít you and still calling him for help with things because he knew the church and you was trying to take over that part to. But you needed him. You played that game and did wrong towards your own father. So what is going on with you, you deserve it. You are not concerned with the people all you are concerned about it a POSITION. Pastor Gardner never pulled you from your place you left and it was because of jealousy you could not handle Derek being there. Now at first you did, you were in his tale to, but when he would complete something that was left for you to do because you could not do it. You started getting mad and running your mouth. We gone tell the truth on here. Your hurt your mother and your father for a position. IT was you that caused him to be sat down. Yet on the side talking like it was not the right move for Pastor Gardner to do shame on you.
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Sep 26, 2012
 
So before y'all put her in hell make sure your walking threw the right door. And I know just what memebers it is that sit and read all of this and run and talk about it or your leader. But be the first one falling out wanting to be prayed for by her and whoever she has on the pulpit. Its a joke to everyone and God's going to deal with everyone. This life here dont last always but heaven and hell does, so you choose. Pastor Gardner is not the worst person in the world she has dne things but we all have she does have a big heart and no one can take tht from her.
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#231
Sep 26, 2012
 
Derek Rimson know that everyone at BMO is not against you everoyne does not dislike you.. You are doing a good job so dnt let people get you down. We all have dne wrong in our lives and as long you made it right with God he gone keep it good with you. At the end he is all that matters and is the only one that has a heaven or hell to put you in.. You keep on living and dont let anyone kill your mother in law.. You all have more people in your corner then what is being told and what you may think. If God has to remove all the people that want to leave then thats whats gone happen. BMO will never go under with padlocks on the doors.. The devil is so busy he knows what to do and who to use to cause confusion and make division.. Everyone is not for you and BMO and everyone is not agaist you and BMO. There is a lot of people that still have a heart and goes after Gods own heart and will only allow God to lead them.. Pastor Gardner I want you to know I dont believe in recycled members.. So with that being said The same damage that caused your church to spilt will be the same damage tht will cause the recycle church/churches to answer to the same fate oneday..Dont fight this thing no deendingyourselfs on the pulpit none of that let God be God. Tony smh you are low and to do that to your dad is messed up..Bet you thought that would never get out because all you knew and could see was position. Pastor Gardner and Derek keep trusting and believing God he will work all out.. Just make sure your doing whats right loving God and your people. Man is the only one that can be fooled not GOD.
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#232
Sep 26, 2012
 
Secrets wrote:
So before y'all put her in hell make sure your walking threw the right door. And I know just what memebers it is that sit and read all of this and run and talk about it or your leader. But be the first one falling out wanting to be prayed for by her and whoever she has on the pulpit. Its a joke to everyone and God's going to deal with everyone. This life here dont last always but heaven and hell does, so you choose. Pastor Gardner is not the worst person in the world she has dne things but we all have she does have a big heart and no one can take tht from her.
How can someone preach the word and lead others when they are nit living right. Derek Rimson is a cheater and a thief always have been and always will be. He's only in it for the money all of them. He still doing the same old same that's meeting with and screwing women from state to state. Maria ain't no saint she just like Derek and Terrie is the dumb fat ugly low self esteem b@#%& that she has always been. You must be one of the members that he is now screwing so you want to try to defend him. What a fucking joke.
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#233
Sep 27, 2012
 
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Again stop going back to the rock of ages stay in the present. why are you trying to make this break about one family and not the stealing, cheating and lying of the other. Judge what you see before you, just try it and its clear and fresh for anyone to see. It's time for someone to respond to the mess, you have a pastor that has allowed the ministry to break while her family take BMO under. With less than 1% I believe the pastor saw the writing on the wall but didn't believe this humble man would exit. If someone doesn't want to except your gift and design for exiting doesn't make you cruel, because it didn't have to be. If anyone follows the A.P. its because they want to be blessed and filled with the word. Why are we calling children names out - truth be told they always looked their best and a GREAT representation of what a family of GOD looks like. Look to the pulpit, Derek hardly ever gave an offering and would not allow the 5 followers to give. Who ever heard of 2 finances/church operating, represents 2 heads and nothing good becomes of that. He hold ministries hostage and take full control of the finance; he must do this so he and his family can have a way to survive. Pastor needs to sell her house before she looses that and make amends with God, there's still a chane. The RIMSONS don't function in reality they make up ministry as they go. Do not believe for one second the pastor only covers, the entire RIMSON family has been covered by the ministry. Not so business oriented when you're bringing in already well to do people and paying them, when the ladies of the church can't even have a functional restroom. Families and visitors were devistated at the conduct and voices there opinion openly as they exit. They will never see a deposit of finances that will make an amend for the lost souls. God has something instored for non-believers, just sit and watch RIMSONS keep stealing and lying to your face. God wants us to stand with truth and stop the wrongs of this man. He could pull out all his Steve Harvey reject suits, smile and lust at your daughters and show your sons how to break a woman. My God look at his wife broken spirit, she has yet realized she missed her blessing by confirming and or allowing the devastation. Yeah she was once discovered by the Devil, translation her husband. Get out Terrie why you can and watch the blessing come down. Free your son from his pain because there will come a day you will realize it's too late. Simply where is your home, car, via the "provider/husbance". Instead you've received pain, broken heart and empty promises. It's in default due to an unpaid debt to GOD, your cost for redemption is TRUTH!
You better speak that truth. He done the same thing in Cali and the both of them would talk about what they have houses and cars while talking about and putting others down. All this was done in the pulpit and church meeting. Terrie is never leaving that was her first and only man she's ever had. Derek is not going to leave because Maria and BMO is supporting him and his family. And besides why would he leave when he can have all the church's money and women that he wants and still walk around like it's the thing to do.
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#234
Sep 27, 2012
 
Is it true that Pastor Gardner was counselling deacon Gardner and his wife? I heard she told deacon to leave his wife and she turned around and married him then he turned around and had a baby with one of Pastor gardner's family member. Wow! Also deacon Gardner wife sued the C.O.G.I.C. because of that and got paid very well to my knowledge.This is a crying shame. Derek destroys everything he touch he has done it in Cali and other cities and now he's at BMO to do the same thing. Watch and see don't he sale the church or get loans and cause the bank to take it.
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#235
Sep 27, 2012
 
Oh Really, OH YEA! Your all the way in Cali you have no idea whats going on in Philadephia First let me clear Derek is not my type lol. If he did whats been said NO one knows if he repented or not. As far as Pastor Gardner counseling Deacon Thomas and his ex wife no she did not counsel them. Not even Mother Oakley counseled them. What Mother Oakley did was tell her not to leave him because he was a good supporter. See there goes the rumors yup he cheated on pastor Gardner and had a baby by her God-daughter. And that was because there marrage was a secret I cant cover the truth And no she did not sue C.O.G.I.C thats funny she never had money and did not get a pretty change from sueing because it never Happened. Was Pastor Gardner wrong for Marrying him yes she was. But she made it right and repented for tht.Deacon Thomas and his ex wife marriage was always crazy they both cheated on each other. I even believe Elder Anthony Thomas is not his son. He looks nothing like him at all he is a bit scary looking not good looking at all. He look like his mother and someone else lol. she was no saint she did just as much wrong in that mariage then he did. to top her cheating off she was always mean and nasty. Now ugly derek is far from that but Deacon Thomas ex wife can someone say Skunk like lol. But that her getting paid Pastor Garder cunseling them a lie. She never sat them both down in the office and talked to them both at the sametime she never prayed over them. Deacon Thomas will tell you she never did that now maybe the ex wife will say that to make it look really bad. She could leave that lie alone because Pastor Gardner was wrong for marrying him. They were divorced before Pastor Gardner and him was even married. He fell out of love with her along time ago. He use to talk about how crazy she was and when they youngest child turned 18 how he was going to leave her and thats just what he did. That marriage only lasted as long as it did because of there kids. He always would say tht an tell me well not me but my Brother and other people in the church. Everyone knew she was a lil crazy and nasty infact she comes from family that was always in stuff. And as far as Derek taking money from the church there is none to take and thats the truth. But when there was some to take you can ask Pastor Alice Martin about that. Derek is pastor Gardner son inlaw so if she covered tht family why cant she cover her own. No one knows what is going on with him at this point or his heart. And I will be BMO for ever! No shame in my game or BMO. We want to talk about junk and all of that is old news. Talk about the pesent. TRULY YOURS I love that what you said RECYCLED MEMBERS Thats what Pastor ALice Martin has and what Elder Anthony Thomas is banking on. I think there is something elder Thomas might need to tell his father. Pastor Gardner had a lot of negative things connected to her name. So he will try and say its a lie but its not he went to Pastor Gardner and told her to stop his father he is ruining the church its not right al kinds of stuff. It was so wrong for him to take care of his child but itwas so right for him o marry his pastor right infront of his mothers face. He was all in it for himself. but on the side talking to his dad and family like she made the wrong move sitting him down. Actually it ws him and his wife tht went to her at he sametime.

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