State parks ballot measure drawing bi...

State parks ballot measure drawing big money

There are 53 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Oct 7, 2010, titled State parks ballot measure drawing big money. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Conservation groups across the greater San Francisco Bay area are pulling out their pocketbooks for Proposition 21, the November ballot measure that would boost funding for California's 278 state parks.

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spend more

Capitola, CA

#1 Oct 7, 2010
dear socialists, please spend a bunch of money trying to influence me. how do you know I haven't already voted NO on my absentee? you tax and spend big government big brother emm effs make me sick.
ordinary tax-paying slob

Berkeley, CA

#2 Oct 7, 2010
Vote No on this enforced tax.

Charge an admission fee instead, and keep the year-long passes for people who want to buy them.

It would be like charging me to go to a rock concert when I never go to rock concerts.
jsn

Mountain View, CA

#3 Oct 7, 2010
JUST SAY NO !!!!
Skiros 14

United States

#4 Oct 7, 2010
Why don't that take the money they are spending to pass this proposition and donate it to the parks.
Dave

Yuba City, CA

#5 Oct 7, 2010
No on 21! If people want to use a park, establish an entrance fee to support the park.
Stupid is as Stupid does

San Jose, CA

#6 Oct 7, 2010
Give me a break... The enviro"mental"ists don't give a damn that the state is broke, jobs are leaving in droves, and we're in way over our heads with spending for gov't programs. I say temporarily close some of the parks until the state's financial crisis is brought under control. Then, and only then, re-open the parks and charge entry fees to support them. Paying for this out of DMV registration is just one more approach to "re-distribution of wealth" (SOCOALISM!!!) I'm voting NO on this prop, and I plan on being VERY LOUD about it.

Since: Feb 08

Santa Cruz

#7 Oct 7, 2010
Dave wrote:
No on 21! If people want to use a park, establish an entrance fee to support the park.
Pssst! there already is one.

Since: Feb 08

Santa Cruz

#8 Oct 7, 2010
Stupid is as Stupid does wrote:
Give me a break... The enviro"mental"ists don't give a **** that the state is broke, jobs are leaving in droves, and we're in way over our heads with spending for gov't programs. I say temporarily close some of the parks until the state's financial crisis is brought under control. Then, and only then, re-open the parks and charge entry fees to support them. Paying for this out of DMV registration is just one more approach to "re-distribution of wealth" (SOCOALISM!!!) I'm voting NO on this prop, and I plan on being VERY LOUD about it.
Without prop 13 you would see this tacked on to the property owners' taxes. So they are going after the reg. fees. Maybe we need a prop 14 there.
ex driver

Monterey, CA

#9 Oct 7, 2010
These "very important" new taxes are always for something nice. But they NEVER go away, and grow in size and number. Many people are fed up with it.
taxpayer

Salinas, CA

#10 Oct 7, 2010
if you only knew how much waste there is with the top 25% of the state park mgmt...i was on a plane last week to EUROPE and in BUSINESS class there were TEN mgmt people from the state park division in Sacramento on this plane, they were exploring how germany operates their parks....by the way, I paid 4800 dollars for my ticket.

YOU people are fools to believe their stories..the low end employees will not benefit from this. VOTE NOOOOO stop being fooled by the govt employee unions
Redic

Fremont, CA

#11 Oct 7, 2010
10 out of 10 comments say NO. Make that 11.
sky

United States

#12 Oct 7, 2010
Google Mid Penninsula Open Space. They have taken
over 50,000.+ acres to "conserve" In Santa Clara County we all pay taxes to Mid Pen to do this. They are just a new name for "Government". They spend millions on payroll, retirement, health to an exculusive group of people. They buy up property for pennies on the dollar. This tax will never go away. Say NO on 21!!!!!
sky

United States

#13 Oct 7, 2010
By the way, All this open space does not generate any property tax or any type of revenue for the state. They are excempt from alot of regulations that we the people have to comply with. So why should the american people have to pick up the tab? If you want to visit the parks, pay the fee, enjoy. But don't make everybody else pay, so the the few can have it for free.
Watsonville mom

Santa Cruz, CA

#14 Oct 7, 2010
Oregon has such a system for their parks, and apparently it's working well for them.

That said, I have so much mistrust for our Sacto politicians that I doubt very much that all of the money will go to the parks, where it is intended to go. So much mismanagement and backhanded deals! Remember how the gas tax money was supposed to go to road upkeep? And then we had to vote in another proposition to make sure that's where it went?

Remember how, in the 1990's, people were saying how "character doesn't matter" in our elected officials? We are seeing the fruits of "our" foolishness: a corrupt gov't. that pays no attention to the people who make the country work.

Since: Sep 10

Dos Rios, CA

#15 Oct 7, 2010
This is one of those fees where I will benefit for once. Saves me a chunk of change. I'm being selfish and voting yes. I pay enough in other taxes and fees where I see no benefit. Mmm...selfishness.
Please Report it

Capitola, CA

#16 Oct 7, 2010
taxpayer wrote:
if you only knew how much waste there is with the top 25% of the state park mgmt...i was on a plane last week to EUROPE and in BUSINESS class there were TEN mgmt people from the state park division in Sacramento on this plane, they were exploring how germany operates their parks....by the way, I paid 4800 dollars for my ticket.
YOU people are fools to believe their stories..the low end employees will not benefit from this. VOTE NOOOOO stop being fooled by the govt employee unions
Could you please file a complaint with the state Treasurers Office and with the Attorney General's Office? This sounds like corruption! What else did they bill to my pocketbook whilst they were there? This needs to be exposed more.
YES on 21

United States

#17 Oct 7, 2010
Redic wrote:
10 out of 10 comments say NO. Make that 11.
LOL - If you use the consensus of the Sentinel forums as a predictor, I'd like to see the look on your face when election results come out.
Huh

United States

#18 Oct 7, 2010
I pay my $125 a year fee for a Yearly Day use parking pass for the State Parks because I intentionally choose to utilize the State Parks system. I do not want my vehicle registration fees to incur additional taxation rates increased becuase our Democrat State leaders have promised too much to too many unionized employees groups and cannot manage to spend within their means just so any turd gang banging puke can cruise into the parking lots and burg my and my fellow park users vehicles while we are out sutrfing or walking on the beach simply because he has CA lic. plate!
The rest of my family never or rarely goes to the State Parks and when they rarely due, they pay the daily rate!

STOP the Socialism BS!!!

No on 21!
four point seven

San Jose, CA

#19 Oct 7, 2010
Why didn't they donate the 4.7 million to state parks, instead of using it to orchestrate the PERMANENT addition of an $18 fee to every vehicle registration in the state???

Since: Feb 08

Santa Cruz

#20 Oct 7, 2010
sky wrote:
By the way, All this open space does not generate any property tax or any type of revenue for the state. They are excempt from alot of regulations that we the people have to comply with. So why should the american people have to pick up the tab? If you want to visit the parks, pay the fee, enjoy. But don't make everybody else pay, so the the few can have it for free.
Socialization of America at work again.

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