Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,377

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#191460 May 8, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
IOW, you cannot provide any compelling reason to legalize SSM. Thank you for your admission of failing to be up to the task. Accepted.
Equal rights.
I know that's a bit complex for you.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#191461 May 8, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not protection. It is the gilding of a sexually oriented behavior. NOT the same thing, at all.
Stupid, gender isn't a behavior.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#191462 May 8, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't try to use the logic, it's too complicated for you. Leave it there, for the grown-ups who DON'T get all strung out, then post, as you do...
Even with typos, what I post makes more sense than what you post.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#191463 May 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
To marry someone of the same sex.
You homophobes can't have it both ways.
Straight people would also be able to marry someone of the same sex, so it would not be a special right.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191464 May 8, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
You know that I love you, old man, in a manly way (of course)...
:-D
Not in a Greco-Roman sort of way...
As Gunnery Sergeant Highway (Clint Eastwood) said in the movie Heartbreak Ridge "You're alright. But this doesn't mean we'll be taking long hot showers together at 2 AM."
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191465 May 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
You homophobes can't have it both ways.
Straight people would also be able to marry someone of the same sex, so it would not be a special right.
I am not a homophobe. And I support SSM.

Your ridiculous belief that polygamy is not an equal rights issue makes you a bigot and a hypocrite. Not to mention stupid and arrogant. But that's not news.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191467 May 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
You homophobes can't have it both ways.
Straight people would also be able to marry someone of the same sex, so it would not be a special right.
Of course you're too stupid to realize that straight people would no more want to marry someone of the same sex than homosexuals would want to marry someone of the opposite sex.

So your argument is just as dumb and biased as theirs. Congratulations.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#191468 May 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a homophobe. And I support SSM.
Your ridiculous belief that polygamy is not an equal rights issue makes you a bigot and a hypocrite. Not to mention stupid and arrogant. But that's not news.
Polygamy isn't an equal rights issue.
Nobody has the right to marry more than on person.
Should they be able to?
Well, that's a topic for another forum

The legalization of pot isn't an equal rights issue, either.
Am I a bigot for saying that?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#191469 May 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course you're too stupid to realize that straight people would no more want to marry someone of the same sex than homosexuals would want to marry someone of the opposite sex.
So your argument is just as dumb and biased as theirs. Congratulations.
That's doesn't make it a special right.
You homophobes always say gay people have equal rights because they can marry someone of the opposite sex.
Can't have it both ways!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191470 May 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>

...All the fundies can do is spew hate.
Says the most infamous hate spewer on Topix.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191471 May 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
That's doesn't make it a special right.
You homophobes always say gay people have equal rights because they can marry someone of the opposite sex.
Can't have it both ways!
I am not a homophobe. You are more a homophobe than I.

I can see no compelling reasons not to allow SSM. Heterosexuals are not interested in a same sex marriage just as homosexuals are not interested in an opposite sex marriage. So it IS a special right. Just as opposite sex marriage is now.

I support SSM but there are legitimate arguments against it and to marginalize and disrespect fellow Americans like you do over their wariness of this huge social change is despicable. And to simply dismiss legitimate (although not compelling) arguments by claiming you haven't heard them is arrogant, dishonest and stupid.

You want this radical social change, the burden is on you, not us. We're fine as it is. Tell us why SSM should be allowed, don't insist we tell you why it shouldn't be allowed.

I doubt you understand all this being you are very angry and stupid. But others will.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191472 May 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Polygamy isn't an equal rights issue.
Nobody has the right to marry more than on person.
Should they be able to?
Well, that's a topic for another forum
The legalization of pot isn't an equal rights issue, either.
Am I a bigot for saying that?
You truly don't understand your anti poly argument is the same one you rail against when used against same sex marriage?

That's amazing. You truly are stupid.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191473 May 8, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Polygamy isn't an equal rights issue.
Nobody has the right to marry more than on person.
Should they be able to?
Well, that's a topic for another forum
The legalization of pot isn't an equal rights issue, either.
Am I a bigot for saying that?
If that were true same sex marriage is not an equal rights issue either. In most states nobody has the right to marry someone of the same sex.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#191474 May 8, 2013
Rock Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
But, these are examples of things that might be feared, not a definition of "fear". I didn't ask for examples of things to be feared, I asked what you defined fear as.
But
1) I have no fear of that, either
2) I believe that teaching kids about sexual orientation in elementary school is dead wrong.
3) Routines suck, at least to me.
4) I do believe that the traditional definition of marriage should be preserved, call me a traditionalist.
5) I've had more than a couple of friends with AIDS, and pitied every one of them, no matter how they caught it, but never shunned any of them.
6) They are living in denial. True hell there.
7) I've been hit on by a few gays, myself, as I am modestly aware of my attractiveness, and have (almost always) found it amusing to have "across the board appeal" as I call it.:D As per the unattractive ones, go figure, maybe they are living in hope?:)
Just off the top of my head I'd say that fear is an uncomfortable reaction to a person, place, thing, idea, or action. The level of discomfort may vary depending on a person's own belief system or life experiences. A person's fear can be rated as anything between slightly anxious to immobilized by terror.

When I spoke of fear in the post you referenced I was talking about fear of gays and same-sex marriage.

You clearly are uncomfortable with opening up the definition of marriage to include same-sex couples. And I would label that discomfort that you feel as "fear".

You, being a "traditionalist", fear change.
Just P

Covina, CA

#191475 May 8, 2013
There just pests, don't worry.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191476 May 8, 2013
Just P wrote:
There just pests, don't worry.
Aw shuddup you silly jackass.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#191480 May 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a homophobe. You are more a homophobe than I.
I can see no compelling reasons not to allow SSM. Heterosexuals are not interested in a same sex marriage just as homosexuals are not interested in an opposite sex marriage. So it IS a special right. Just as opposite sex marriage is now.
I support SSM but there are legitimate arguments against it and to marginalize and disrespect fellow Americans like you do over their wariness of this huge social change is despicable. And to simply dismiss legitimate (although not compelling) arguments by claiming you haven't heard them is arrogant, dishonest and stupid.
You want this radical social change, the burden is on you, not us. We're fine as it is.
Tell us why SSM should be allowed, don't insist we tell you why it shouldn't be allowed.
I doubt you understand all this being you are very angry and stupid. But others will.
LOL.

Thought you said you favored gay marriage.
Did you slip up?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#191481 May 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
If that were true same sex marriage is not an equal rights issue either. In most states nobody has the right to marry someone of the same sex.
You are really, really stupid.
A woman doesn't have the same right a man has
A man doesn't have the same right a woman has.
Not equal.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#191482 May 8, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
You truly don't understand your anti poly argument is the same one you rail against when used against same sex marriage?
That's amazing. You truly are stupid.
I don't have an anti poly argument, or a pro one for that matter.
Again, stupid, I'm just saying it's not an equal rights issue.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#191483 May 8, 2013
These are the basic types of arguments against gay marriage.
1. God said, "Yadda, yadda, yadda."
There is no evidence god exists, let alone that he said anything in particular.
Next.

2. Gay couples can't reproduce.
You don't have to be able to reproduce in order to marry.
Next.

3. Gays have anal sex.
Most men into anal sex are straight, and it's really not and issue.
Next.

4. A child needs a mother and father.
Even if that were true, it's a separate issue, you can adopt a kid without being married.
Next.

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