Guilty verdict in Yankee Doodle slaying

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Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#1 Mar 17, 2013
Stanley Park has been found guilty of manslaughter for shooting Michael Martoni outside of Yankee Doodles. He faces 6 to 21 years when he is sentenced in April.
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#2 Mar 17, 2013
Park and his lawyers said it was self defense. But Park shot the guy three times, including a head shot after the victim was down. The prosecutor said it was an execution.
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#3 Mar 17, 2013
Church people put up tons of money so that Park could post bail. Now that he's guilty and locked up, how much of it do they get back?
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#4 Mar 17, 2013
When Park was first arrested he was represented by Long Beach attorney Henry Salcido, who brayed like a jack*** that his client acted in self defense. But years later, Park's trial attorney was someone from Sacramento named Thomas Wirtz. What happened?

(This was the second trial. The jury deadlocked in the first trial.)
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#5 Mar 17, 2013
Park and Martoni were in a beef about a girl. Did she testify at trial? What did she look like?
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#6 Mar 17, 2013
At the end of the trial, lawyer Wirtz told the reporter that the trial was "unfair." Why did he say that? How will that affect the judge, who will be deciding the sentence and any motion for new trial?
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#7 Mar 17, 2013
How does this incident fit into the debate over gun control. Mr Stanley Park exercised his right to bear arms. A bad man hit him, and Park effectively used his gun to stop the threat. But then the legal system took over and charged Park with murder. After two trials, Park was found guilty of manslaughter and he may not get out of prison until he is an old man.

Even if he was found not guilty, the legal proceedings sucked out every last dollar he ever made as a stockbroker or will ever make in the furture.

So, what is the answer from a gun control standpoint? Can this man and his lawyers look in the mirror and say that the right to have a gun was all worth it?
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#8 Mar 17, 2013
I went back and read the 136 Topix postings from the days immediately after the murder. This was before any arrests had been made. The posts are mostly about whether or not Yankee Doodles was a safe place. A couple of posters suggested that it was a beef between two men and their dispute had nothing to do with Yankee Doodles.

It also brought up the fact that the victim Martoni had a rather extensive criminal record and had been released from prison not too long before he was killed.
jurist

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Mar 17, 2013
Y Doodle wrote:
I went back and read the 136 Topix postings from the days immediately after the murder. This was before any arrests had been made. The posts are mostly about whether or not Yankee Doodles was a safe place. A couple of posters suggested that it was a beef between two men and their dispute had nothing to do with Yankee Doodles.
It also brought up the fact that the victim Martoni had a rather extensive criminal record and had been released from prison not too long before he was killed.
Obviously, you're the last editor the Press Telegram fired before they gave the job to Tim Grobaty.
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#10 Mar 17, 2013
@Jurist: Those 136 Topix postings were a sad reminder for me. Back in the "old days" of 2008, a Press-Telegram news story about an important event would draw dozens of comments -- all anonymous. Some of the comments were insightful, some were wacky, some were helpful, some were racist. Someone named Ronald complained about the lack of smoking opportunities.

Then some editor decided that news stories should be separated from the anonymous Topix system and only Facebook users (who presumably use their real names, although that no longer seems to be the case) could directly comnent on the news stories. The result is a dramatic dropoff on comments, both on Topix and on the P-T website.

Was that a good idea? Especially now that the Press-Telegram has a tiny staff that cannot be expected to keep up with all the stuff that happens in Long Beach, both good and bad? I for one long for the days of largely unregulated commentary.
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#11 Mar 17, 2013
Back when Park surrendered to authorities, the Topix commenters made a big deal of the fact that some of his defense attorneys had recently served as prosecutors. Commenters saw this as a sign that a sweetheart deal would get worked out and Park would walk.

Four years later, Park went to trial with an attorney from Sacramento. He was found guilty of manslaughter, a lesser charge than murder but a guilty verdict nonetheless.

Is the defense attorney familiar with the term "getting hometowned"? Did he explain this term to his client before the trial started? Did he have an ethical obligation to do so?
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#12 Mar 17, 2013
Here are some interesting facts picked up from the current trial and the 2008 Topix postings:

-- In 2008, people who claimed to know Martoni said he was on the straight and narrow, and he only drank water when he was at Yankee Doodles. At trial, there was evidence that he had a very high blood alcohol level at the time of his death, something like .25.

--Park took a loaded gun inside of YD, and he also used cocaine the night of the shooting.

A drunk victim and a coked-up man with a gun, two men with a personal beef. It was never going to end well.
summarizer

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Mar 18, 2013
Y Doodle wrote:
Here are some interesting facts picked up from the current trial and the 2008 Topix postings:
-- In 2008, people who claimed to know Martoni said he was on the straight and narrow, and he only drank water when he was at Yankee Doodles. At trial, there was evidence that he had a very high blood alcohol level at the time of his death, something like .25.
--Park took a loaded gun inside of YD, and he also used cocaine the night of the shooting.
A drunk victim and a coked-up man with a gun, two men with a personal beef. It was never going to end well.
What we have here is gutter trash, booze, a bankrupt newspaper, and an overloaded court system. If you changed any one of those elements the outcome would have been different. As it is, I'm not going to lose sleep over the idea of some piece of gutter trash getting more or less time in prison for offing another piece of gutter trash. Poor people go against the system, the system starts grinding. If they keep at it, the system grinds them down to nothing. Always been that way, always will be. Don't abuse drugs, stay out of yankee doodles, and avoid people who like to go to yankee doodles.
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#14 Mar 19, 2013
The girl is the key to this case. She attracted the man who just got out of prison and was working as a bouncer at a card club, but also a Korean-American guy with a middle class job. She must be very open minded.
summarizer

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Mar 20, 2013
Y Doodle wrote:
The girl is the key to this case. She attracted the man who just got out of prison and was working as a bouncer at a card club, but also a Korean-American guy with a middle class job. She must be very open minded.
Or dumb as a post. You keep trying to make poor stupid people make sense. You're trying to make their world a just world. That is a fool's errand. Pointless misery is their destiny. They're like an alien species the rest of society has to deal with until they self-destruct.
Some horses are thoroughbreds. Some are plow-horses destined for the glue factory. Quit trying so hard. Learn to play the ukelele.
Y Doodle

Modesto, CA

#16 Mar 21, 2013
If you are the woman in this case, what do you think of the fact that two men fought over you -- and one of them died. That must be very empowering.

Or do you just think to yourself, those guys are losers, and focus on your current relationship.

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