Who do you support for Governor in Pennsylvania in 2010?

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Dan the Man

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Dec 13, 2012
 
boxhard wrote:
interestingly, workers now get to chose between payin dues or not. i thought you libs liked freedom of choice? interesting indeed.....
unions are already crippled. the law in michigan just kicked a crutch away and gave workers a right to chose.
wont be long and the union goons will be called into action. <quoted text>
Read it again boxtard. They were already exempt from paying for political activities. They just had to pay for the expenses the union had for gaining better pay and benefits. Why should someone get the benefits and not have to pay for the efforts to acquire them? That's not fair. I thought you wingnuts were all about fairness and paying for what you get.

And if the law is all about worker freedom, why were police and firemen excluded? Don't you want freedom for those most valuable public servants too? Why do you hate the police and firemen?
Dan the Man

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Dec 13, 2012
 
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Whether they were an unfortunate foreshadowing of the following events, or a backhanded rally cry, his words rang true shortly after as Fox News contributor Steven Crowder was physically assaulted by union members as he tried desperately to keep them from destroying the tents put up by Americans for Prosperity. With everything being recorded on film, it is clear that the protestors were not concerned with the safety of rights of those still within the tents as they tore them down and attacked Crowder. The video clearly showed not only the union member landing several punches on Crowder with no retaliation; it also shows at least one woman emerging from one of the downed tents, visibly shocked.
In one instance, a police officer was forced to use pepper spray on one or more protestors because they pulled a female officer violently into the crowd. More reports of use of pepper spray by police officers were reported, including former Representative Mark Schauer. Eyewitness reports vary widely, with some on the left declaring the protests were loud but peaceful, and contradictory reports of shoving and pushing and assault which would have justified use of force
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ooops the union goons already have been called into action. i wonder what their marching orders will be next. is that all they did dan, knock down a tent ? professional union guidos have been called into action. they wont go down without a fight.
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A Breitbart provocateur, by his own admission, went looking to provoke a confrontation.

And he got what he wanted.

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Steven Crowder Admits He Went To Michigan Protest To ‘Prove’ Union Thugs ‘For Who They Truly Are’

"I want to make something very clear here, Sean. I never went out here to try and be assaulted, as leftists might say. I went out here to prove the left for who they truly are. Certainly, these union thugs. And I’ve achieved that."

So how had he planned to prove "union thugs" "for who they truly are?” By just “asking questions?” Crowder didn’t say and Hannity didn’t ask.

Talking Points Memo (h/t/ Aria) reported that Eddie Vale, spokesperson for the AFL-CIO, has said the protest was "almost universally peaceful and calm." Furthermore:

“While of course we do not condone the actions taken by a small group of people, the disciples of James O’Keefe were attempting to instigate the crowd all day,” Vale said, referring to the right-wing, video-camera-wielding provocateur.“As soon as the incident happened our marshals worked with the police to move the AFP people through the crowd to safety with no injuries.”

In fact, the video shown on Hannity seemed to show protesters intervening on Crowder's behalf. But Crowder didn't bring it up and Hannity showed no interest in Vale's perspective.
Dan the Man

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#44643
Dec 13, 2012
 
Ted wrote:
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!LOL!
Nobody but you, BOY, could distort a simple omission by calling it "a meaningless semantic aberration"!
danny BOY, you'll edit and rewrite ANYthing to try to prove a point--as we've observed in your frequent edited and unattributed copied and pasted text. You're an unethical clod.
Priceless, BOY: "Or he could have merely spelled "they" as "that."" LOL! If that's the case, BOY, then he made a mistake, not a typo, while accusing others of stupidity. The irony.
Substituting entire WORDS and calling them typos makes you a dishonest, "petty little prick", danny BOY.
It's your nature to routinely twist the truth, BOY. You're a liar's liar.
EVERYone--such as you, BOY--who contends that minorities can't be racist IS a racist.
EVERYone--such as you, BOY--who contends that they NEVER lie IS a liar.
danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.
LOL! Your desperate, flailing attempts at self-justification are truly comical.

Dave made a meaningless typo, just like countless people do every day here.

You childishly mocked him for being stupid.

I called you out on your petty, dickish behavior.

And now you can't stop trying to justify your childishness by dishonestly attacking me.

Hmmmm, when have we seen THAT before? Must be a day that ends in 'y'. LOL!

Grow up, WATB.
Dan the Man

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Dec 13, 2012
 
The GOP key to getting what they want - run bait-and-switch campaigns.

Brilliant!

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One striking thing about Governor Rick Snyder's successful push for a right-to-work law in Michigan -- and Scott Walker's similar push against public employee unions in Wisconsin -- is that they relied on bait-and-switch tactics.

In their campaigns, neither governor announced their support for right-to-work laws, or more broadly, their opposition to labor unions. They both campaigned as moderate Republicans, interested in a straightforward agenda of job creation and deficit reduction.
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Not only did Snyder not support right-to-work laws during his gubernatorial bid, but he didn't campaign as an opponent of labor, making this reversal a huge surprise for Michiganders writ large.

Given Scott Walker's similar actions in Wisconsin, it seems that this is becoming a favored approach for Republican politicians.

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But it's a short-term strategy, destined to produce a whole lot of one-term office holders.

People don't put up with that shit very long, and as we saw from the Presidential election, you try to screw over voters, they turn out to defeat you and your dishonest tactics.
Ted

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#44646
Dec 13, 2012
 
Dan the Man wrote:
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Let me break it down as simply as I can:
If I had lied, someone would be able to show me one.
But nobody ever has.
Nobody.
Ever.
And only trolls set bait. It's stupid and juvenile, and it's what people do who aren't intellectually equipped to have rational, adult debate.
danny BOY, despite your pathetic denials, you have been shown to be a liar on here numerous times.

Let me break it down as simply as I can, BOY:
* you constantly post that you NEVER lie
* NO honest person claims that they NEVER lie
* those who claim they NEVER lie ARE liars

BOY, can you name any honest, public figure who incessantly proclaims as you do "I never lie"? No? That's because it's a narcissistic comment only liars make.

Honest people don't constantly, desperately plead "I never lie", danny BOY. You must fantasize that the repetition itself will transform you from a pathologically lying sociopath into a healthy, honest person.

danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.
Dan the Man

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Ted wrote:
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danny BOY, despite your pathetic denials, you have been shown to be a liar on here numerous times.
Let me break it down as simply as I can, BOY:
* you constantly post that you NEVER lie
* NO honest person claims that they NEVER lie
* those who claim they NEVER lie ARE liars
BOY, can you name any honest, public figure who incessantly proclaims as you do "I never lie"? No? That's because it's a narcissistic comment only liars make.
Honest people don't constantly, desperately plead "I never lie", danny BOY. You must fantasize that the repetition itself will transform you from a pathologically lying sociopath into a healthy, honest person.
danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.
You have never shown me to be a liar.

Never.

And any reasonable person who is relentlessly falsely accused of something, day after day, week after week, month after month, will occasionally defend himself. Nothing remotely pathological about that.

The pathology lies entirely in the lunatic who is obsessed with making the false accusation.

Truthful people don't have to constantly, desperately accuse someone of the same thing without ever offering any evidence. You must fantasize that the repetition itself will transform your false accusation into the truth.

What a sad, desperate, obsessed WATB you are, Ted.

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#44652
Dec 13, 2012
 
Corbett has to go. He soft pedaled Jerry Sandusky. He did voter suppression. Now he is refusing to cooperated with the ACA. His ass is mine, in a Friendly fashion of course.
Dan the Man

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#44653
Dec 13, 2012
 
TaxNoMore wrote:
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I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
That's simply not true.
Once someone has repeatedly demonstrated that they don't tell the truth, I stop taking what they say seriously.
That's true of Breitbart, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage, and the like.
But I don't just dismiss conservative sources because they're conservative.
But if you can show me a fact - an actual, honest-to-God truthful statement - that I've dismissed simply because of the source, show me and I will gladly admit I was wrong.
Can you do that?
I posted this challenge 8 months ago.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/chambersburg-...

Has anyone found one yet?

No?

I wonder why? LOL!
Ted

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Dan the Man wrote:
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You have never shown me to be a liar.
Never.
And any reasonable person who is relentlessly falsely accused of something, day after day, week after week, month after month, will occasionally defend himself. Nothing remotely pathological about that.
The pathology lies entirely in the lunatic who is obsessed with making the false accusation.
Truthful people don't have to constantly, desperately accuse someone of the same thing without ever offering any evidence. You must fantasize that the repetition itself will transform your false accusation into the truth.
What a sad, desperate, obsessed WATB you are, Ted.
How clueless ARE you, danny BOY?

Repeatedly, incessantly, and unendingly stating, as you do, "I never lie" is all the proof required to confirm that you ARE a liar.

EVERYone lies to varying degrees, BOY. You deny that you lie to ANY degree. Therefore, you ARE a liar.

Keep denying it to keep proving it, BOY.

!LOL! You sociopathic idiot.

danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.
Pathetic

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Almost 45,000 posts...

Do any of you people work, or do anything but play games with each other on topix all day?

Retards all...on both sides.
Aspherical

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Dec 13, 2012
 
TaxNoMore wrote:
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The GOP key to getting what they want - run bait-and-switch campaigns.
Brilliant!
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You mean, like obummercare?
Obummercare...hahahahhahah
Wow...you are so funny ...what a wit you are.
And I thought you were witless the whole time.

Did you make that term up?

Or did you get it from one of your witless news sources...

Nevertheless ...its ingenious...wowww

What an idiot...

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#44658
Dec 13, 2012
 
Democrats Find Out What's in ObamaCare and Don't Like It.

Senate Democrats who helped pass ObamaCare are finally seeing what is in it and aren't really so sure the massive tax increases mandated in the legislation will be good for their constituents, especially when it comes to the medical device tax which is set to further increase on January 1.

With some of their most influential constituent groups facing onerous tax increases that are slated to help fund the law’s mandates and regulations, Senators like Al Franken (D-MN), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Charles Schumer (D-NY), Patty Murray (D-WA), John Kerry (D-MA), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Debbie Stabenow (D-MI), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and others -- all of whom voted in favor of the law -- are aiming to delay or outright repeal parts of ObamaCare.

As I've written before, one of the most devasting taxes long-term is the medical device tax. Medical device development requires highly specialized education and an expensive degree in bio-medical engineering. Now that medical device companies are already cutting jobs because of ObamaCare costs, many students will no longer find it worth spending money on an expensive education only to have their investment not pay off. In the future, this will cause a shortage of medical device engineers which will further snowball into an overall decay of medical device innovation, leaving Americans and the world will have fewer life saving devices.

A bipartisan outcry has been raised over the device tax, and for good reason. The tax was enacted to help fund the $1.76 trillion in new spending authorized under Obamacare, and it will actively undermine production of and improvement on medical devices which are crucial to patient outcomes.

The device tax is a tax on gross receipts (sales, essentially) instead of a tax on profits, so the tax will be imposed even if a company sells its products at a loss. This one detail ensures that the 2.3% tax is deceptively large: the medical device industry’s tax burden is expected to double because of the Taxmageddon increase; some companies (such as Zoll, which manufactures defibrillators) will see their profit margins shaved by up to 40%.

A recent study found that investment in medical research and development will fall by $2 billion per year because of the device tax—and that is a cautious estimate. R&D dollars drive innovation and innovation lowers costs, so the tax’s adverse effect on investment will keep expensive medical devices from becoming affordable and widely available in the future.

More immediately, the device tax will gouge health consumers for essential products. Taxes on companies often end up hitting consumers as higher prices, and the device tax is no different. The actuary for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services made it plain that Obamacare’s “fees and the [device] tax would generally be passed through to health consumers in the form of higher drug and device prices and higher insurance premiums.” In other words, patients – many in dire need of care – may find crucial medical products out of their reach as a result of the 2.3% tax.

Whatever costs cannot be passed along to patients will be absorbed by the medical device companies, which will lead businesses to cut jobs as they tread water to stay afloat. One study found that, depending on the elasticity of the tax, the medical device industry will be forced to fire between 14,500 and 47,100 workers—up to 10% of the workforce.

Katie Pavlich
News Editor, Townhall
Dan the Man

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Pathetic wrote:
Almost 45,000 posts...
Do any of you people work, or do anything but play games with each other on topix all day?
Retards all...on both sides.
It's a hobby. I spend less time here in a week than most people spend watching football.
Dan the Man

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Ted wrote:
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How clueless ARE you, danny BOY?
Repeatedly, incessantly, and unendingly stating, as you do, "I never lie" is all the proof required to confirm that you ARE a liar.
EVERYone lies to varying degrees, BOY. You deny that you lie to ANY degree. Therefore, you ARE a liar.
Keep denying it to keep proving it, BOY.
!LOL! You sociopathic idiot.
danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.
You must fantasize that the repetition itself will transform your false accusation into the truth.
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#44662
Dec 13, 2012
 
Seriously wrote:
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This shit your making up is true?!
He got free Healthcare until the unions came in...hahahaha
Was this in the 50's?

Free healthcare..just when he was spotted with pigs flying out his ass.

Then the bad unions took it away...booohoo

Sounds like a Freddy the Freeloader story to me.
Ted

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Dan the Man wrote:
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It's a hobby. I spend less time here in a week than most people spend watching football.
!LOL!

"I spend less time here in a week than most people spend watching football."

ANOTHER dannyBOY lie, as anyone reading this or the Chambersburg thread can confirm for themselves.

BOY, you'll lie about ANYthing!

danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.
Ted

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Dan the Man wrote:
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You must fantasize that the repetition itself will transform your false accusation into the truth.
Previously, danny BOY, when you stated "I never lie" and I questioned the veracity of such a ridiculous statement, you doubled-down by saying that neither you nor your wife lie!

EVER.

Not only is it impossible to make such a claim for ANY other person, making such a statement is itself another lie, BOY. LOL!

Such grandiose, unbelievable statements are evidence enough, BOY, to convince sane, ethical people that you are a shameless, incorrigible liar.

danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.
Dan the Man

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Ted wrote:
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!LOL!
"I spend less time here in a week than most people spend watching football."
ANOTHER dannyBOY lie, as anyone reading this or the Chambersburg thread can confirm for themselves.
BOY, you'll lie about ANYthing!
danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.
I'm self-employed. Much of my work is on the computer. I take breaks between tasks and look at Topix. Add it all up and it's certainly less time than people spend watching football.
Dan the Man

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Ted wrote:
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Previously, danny BOY, when you stated "I never lie" and I questioned the veracity of such a ridiculous statement, you doubled-down by saying that neither you nor your wife lie!
EVER.
Not only is it impossible to make such a claim for ANY other person, making such a statement is itself another lie, BOY. LOL!
Such grandiose, unbelievable statements are evidence enough, BOY, to convince sane, ethical people that you are a shameless, incorrigible liar.
danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.
Just because you can't imagine living life without telling lies doesn't mean that people don't do it.

Lying and truth-telling are a choice. You've obviously made the choice to lie. I don't do that. Sorry if my choice makes you feel bad about yourself and your poor moral character.
Ted

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Dan the Man wrote:
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Just because you can't imagine living life without telling lies doesn't mean that people don't do it.
Lying and truth-telling are a choice. You've obviously made the choice to lie. I don't do that. Sorry if my choice makes you feel bad about yourself and your poor moral character.
Actually, danny BOY, it's unlikely anyone alive today has not or does not--to varying degrees--lie.

That you, BOY, claim you and your wife ARE the exceptions indicates the depth of your narcissistic sociopathy.

Your vehement, uncompromising assertion is all the evidence required to confirm that you ARE a liar, BOY.

Thanks for making it so easy to flush out your ethical hypocrisy.

danny BOY: racist, plagiarist, pathological liar.

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