Alleged gunman in Ross case has violent past, gang ties

[TRUTH]

And yet you are advocating freeing him when you have no evidence to the contrary. You are a hypocrite.

anonymous _ wrote:

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Yup, I didn't see what happened just as you guys didn't. But im not the one jumping to conclusions saying oh tom is this tom is that. You people are ! >:O
& DIDN'T THE PARENTS OF YOU PEOPLE EVER TELL YOU
IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY DONT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL .
FREE TOM , WE MISS YOU ! <3

[anonymous _]

TRUTH wrote:

And yet you are advocating freeing him when you have no evidence to the contrary. You are a hypocrite.
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Oh but the difference between me & the people commenting on this is I'm not saying i know for sure he didn't or did do it. So SO WHAT ! call it what you want. FRREEEE TOMMMMM !

[foclipz]

yall dumbazzes deleted my post...I responded to La Santisima Muerte's comment on how we got killers on the other side...who kill and run to Mexico...they shoot sheriff deputies and flee or hide in bathtubs...this kid didnt run anywhere...if youre a teen and you live with your mom...you will live where she lives..man...how many hundreds of times Ive heard over the years the killers ran to Mexico after they shot rival gang members, their homies, innocent people, wives, girlfriends, and LA county Sheriff deputies...all these killers got one thing in commom again...they almost all the time run back HOME to Mexico.........this kid..is presummed innocent...until proven guilty..but even then...I dont buy that crap...they gonna make an example outta this Baby Insane...guilty or not....50-50 chance he didnt do it..and some other low life..is about to collect on the $20,000 reward money for his own twisted financial gain. What these cops do to everyday normal hard working people is crazy...Im a viticm of money hungry cops...they say its the law...but they turn a blind eye to illegal immigrants who get free section 8 housing welfare...foodstamps..medical and schooling......but when it comes to the American citizen...they enforce every law down to the last word

[Aaron]

SSDD wrote:

Health care reform must include obligatory sterilization. No more breeding of societal cancers(OF ANY RACE). Just offer a lump sum of money to have the operation and problem is solved!!They will need to close down prisons in 20 years for lack of use.

you are so right! we used to have that in the US in the 1930's. it was called the eugenics movement. hitler used parts of what we did to do what he did in germany. Mam, is that ever a great idea!

[LBC Lifer]

anonymous _ wrote:

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Oh but the difference between me & the people commenting on this is I'm not saying i know for sure he didn't or did do it. So SO WHAT ! call it what you want. FRREEEE TOMMMMM !

The difference between YOU and the rest of us boils down to logic. We have it and you have none...die in prison Tom!!!!

[TRUTH]

You want to free someone who you have no knowledge whether they committed the crime or not. I want him to stay in custody until his preliminary hearing where an impartial judge can hear the evidence and make a decision whether there is enough there to go ahead with the charges or not.

And with your statement you have become a moronic hypocrite.

anonymous _ wrote:

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Oh but the difference between me & the people commenting on this is I'm not saying i know for sure he didn't or did do it. So SO WHAT ! call it what you want. FRREEEE TOMMMMM !

[Ronald]

Aaron wrote:

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you are so right! we used to have that in the US in the 1930's. it was called the eugenics movement. hitler used parts of what we did to do what he did in germany. Mam, is that ever a great idea!

Aaron.

"Hitler"? What has "Hitler" got to do with law abiding overtaxed citizens not even being safe in their own homes, much less on the public streets, as a consequence of child abuse? We might blame "Hitler" for lots of things, but he is hardly responsible for that.

You and I might disagree with the compulsive nature of the suggestion made by SSDD but he made a well meaning proposal for solving a problem that grows worse with each passing year it is ignored.

Even politicians are awakening to the problem of child abuse, and some of them are even trying to devise some solution. Here is a link to an article reporting on one progressive politician's efforts to bring forth fresh ideas to the marketplace:

http://www.infowars.com/new-zealand-mayor-pay...

Mayor Laws proposes using the carrot, or "democratic", approach. We must consider all ideas intended for the solving of this vexing and long suffering problem. Laws is rightly concerned about child abuse, and the deleterious effect that abuse has upon society. Let's hope he does not get "Hitlerized" because of his bringing forth ideas for the purpose of ending child abuse.

Ronald

[Xiuhcoatl]

foclipz wrote:

yall dumbazzes deleted my post...I responded to La Santisima Muerte's comment on how we got killers on the other side...who kill and run to Mexico...they shoot sheriff deputies and flee or hide in bathtubs...this kid didnt run anywhere...if youre a teen and you live with your mom...you will live where she lives..man...how many hundreds of times Ive heard over the years the killers ran to Mexico after they shot rival gang members, their homies, innocent people, wives, girlfriends, and LA county Sheriff deputies...all these killers got one thing in commom again...they almost all the time run back HOME to Mexico.........this kid..is presummed innocent...until proven guilty..but even then...I dont buy that crap...they gonna make an example outta this Baby Insane...guilty or not....50-50 chance he didnt do it..and some other low life..is about to collect on the $20,000 reward money for his own twisted financial gain. What these cops do to everyday normal hard working people is crazy...Im a viticm of money hungry cops...they say its the law...but they turn a blind eye to illegal immigrants who get free section 8 housing welfare...foodstamps..medical and schooling......but when it comes to the American citizen...they enforce every law down to the last word

What a dumb ***! Oh yes, this guy should have gotten on a plane and gone back to Africa just to get away! An example? How many years and how many people are going to have to go to jail so these people can get their **** together!

[JustUS]

We did the best we could when our kids were growing up (in the projects). Working two jobs etc. Our kids "did not" grow up in a gang, and they also did not grow up in the drug scene. They seen the going's on around the neighborhood with the gangs & drugs, and with "our guidance" chose to be something other than gang members or drug addicts. When they use the surroundings as a crutch for becoming murderers that is no acceptable excuse! They must be taught "self respect" in order to respect others.

[JustUS]

La Santisima Muerte wrote:

why are all R20's and Baby's hiding in Bellflower? they move out their turf, come to Long Beach, shoot at their enemies and go hide right back in Bellflower where their enemies cant find them? what kind of $h1t is that?

They are just doing what gangs do, showing their "COWARD" in them.

[rip jb]

they need to free tom and daivion im tired of hearin all this shit about melody rose they act like she is the first person in lb to get shot. They did nothing to support jabari bentons family when he was shot and they didnt go giving out money and asking for donation just because they assumed he was from a gang.

[LBc]

The way that LBUSD High SChool Office works is they pass the trash.....That office has set the bar where they can chose who goes there and the rest are sent to other schools....JUST like their "ALL AFRICAN AMERICAN ACADEMY" that failed cause they couldn't get enough parents to take part,,,,yet we spend the money we don't have on dez boys that don't care if they goses to school or nots......The district and judge lee must have a "warm relationship" cause they just keep letting off anybody who breaks the law if they go to POLY and whe they don't get caught they just send them to another school......and it ain't Jordon......

Noel wrote:

Yeah, these guys were not from Poly, but the point is they were from the Poly 'hood, or one similar to it. It is not the Poly students per se that Wilson parents object to - those recruited from other areas for the Poly PACE program are assumed to be fine students that any school would be proud of - but the neighborhood students that are thugs. Note that neither of these parasites on society were from the Wilson area. They were not Poly students, but they may as well have been.

[Medieval Pundit]

Here's a list of the people and groups who have been reamed since Melody's death: LBUSD, Wilson, Poly, LBPD, blacks, hispanics, gangs, security guards, football fans, George Bush, Barack Obama, No Child Left Behind, Judge Gibson Lee, gun nuts, Second Amendment supporters, single moms, absentee dads, Section 8 renters, eyewitnesses with poor vision, and kids who wear hoodies.

Am I forgetting anyone?

[anonymous _]

TRUTH wrote:

You want to free someone who you have no knowledge whether they committed the crime or not. I want him to stay in custody until his preliminary hearing where an impartial judge can hear the evidence and make a decision whether there is enough there to go ahead with the charges or not.
And with your statement you have become a moronic hypocrite.
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Lol aye you creep. Did you know tom? did you know melody? does this incident have anything to with you? You wouldn't have even know either these 2 people existed if it wasn't for these articles. YOU ARE A LOW LIFE, thats what you are. Because I know tom, That's why i am standing up for him. But you know neither one of these people so its obvious your one of those type of people who just like to put your 2 sense it where it ISNT needed. your horrible lol & they can lock him away give him life or whatever but it still doesn't mean he is positively the one who did it. I said it about 20 times on these comments and none of you people's remarks are gonna change my mind : FREEEE TOM VINSON ! >:o

[little lulu]

anonymous _ wrote:

<quoted text>Lol aye you creep. Did you know tom? did you know melody? does this incident have anything to with you? You wouldn't have even know either these 2 people existed if it wasn't for these articles. YOU ARE A LOW LIFE, thats what you are. Because I know tom, That's why i am standing up for him. But you know neither one of these people so its obvious your one of those type of people who just like to put your 2 sense it where it ISNT needed. your horrible lol & they can lock him away give him life or whatever but it still doesn't mean he is positively the one who did it. I said it about 20 times on these comments and none of you people's remarks are gonna change my mind : FREEEE TOM VINSON ! >:o

keep up your jawjacking, if nothing else, it's amusing. none of your third-rate drivel is going to change ours.

[Nick]

Parent wrote:

Who do we contact to find out about changing the football games to Sat. afternoons and make the evening games a thing of the past?
And let's have police presence in plain view.
What happened to the simple life???

PLEASE NOTE THIS INF!!! Years ago (about 15) I went to a high school game in Pasadena. I think it was Blair and Pasadena. What was so odd about this game??? It was played at 11am on a Saturday morning!!!Why have a game on Saturday morning?? Gang Violence... And EVERYONE, fans, parents, teachers AND even the REF'S had to go thru a walk-thru Metal Detector. It can be done.....

[Tom]

I'm free! Thank you for your support.

[BOB]

rip jb wrote:

they need to free tom and daivion im tired of hearin all this **** about melody rose they act like she is the first person in lb to get shot. They did nothing to support jabari bentons family when he was shot and they didnt go giving out money and asking for donation just because they assumed he was from a gang.

YOU ARE A LOSER...Support Jabari Bentons family??? WHY? Jabari was a known gang banger. Being a gang banger got him killed. He was so screwed up he changed gangs. Who does that?? Only people who have a death wish, which he got.I knew Jabari and Tom. Tom will NEVER see the light of day again. Tom was a ladies man, a player. Tom is now going to get a lot of loved in his new home "prison".It's not going to get any better after that when he meets his maker and has to answer for his sin's. Then he's going to wish he was back in prison....

[Brian]

Nick wrote:

<quoted text>PLEASE NOTE THIS INF!!! Years ago (about 15) I went to a high school game in Pasadena. I think it was Blair and Pasadena. What was so odd about this game??? It was played at 11am on a Saturday morning!!!Why have a game on Saturday morning?? Gang Violence... And EVERYONE, fans, parents, teachers AND even the REF'S had to go thru a walk-thru Metal Detector. It can be done.....

Best set of posts to date..... Food for thought for the LBUSD, but I doubt that it'll happen.

[lbpparent]

If all you people in Lakewood know where Lakewood H.S. is its located right on the border of Lakewood and Long Beach. Many kids in that area of Long Beach go to Lakewood H.S. Bancroft Middle School which feeds into Lakewood H.S. in on Centralia in Long Beach right down the street from Lakewood H.S. so quit trying to claim that only "perfect" Lakewood kids go to your school. I live in Lakewood and want no part of that place. I wish that the guys on your football team who are making you look so good this year knew how you really felt about them. Knowing you were the home of the "Spurr Posse" I would who you talk so bad about.