Long Beach hotels plan layoffs before living wage takes effect

Dec 14, 2012 Full story: Los Angeles Times 28

One week before a new minimum wage law for Long Beach hotels goes into effect, two hotels have told employees to expect layoffs of as many as 75 people, according to union representatives.

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YKW

Long Beach, CA

#1 Dec 14, 2012
“This is a cynical and a dishonorable attempt to circumvent the wishes of the residents of Long Beach,” said newly elected Assemblyman Anthony Rendon (D-Lakewood).“This will be our first stand and this will be our last stand; we’re going to win this fight here and make sure the hotels throughout the city realize we’re not going to put up with this."

That's right, just keep attacking businesses and run them right into the ground or out of business. The new American way, get everyone on food stamps or some other kind of government hand out. Too bad, some of these people were employed before the do gooders came along.
Sickofit

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Dec 14, 2012
"When he walked away, the protesters followed him through the hotel chanting, "Si se puede.""

If you had entered the country legally, learned english, and assimilated, you wouldn't have to chase the boss who fired you around the Denny's parking lot begging for a job cleaning toilets because you'd have other options, you illegal pieces of anchor baby-slinging shittt.

BACK TO MEXICO WITH YOU!!
BadForLongBeach

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#3 Dec 15, 2012
You have to feel for the hotel business in Long Beach. They are forced to higher wages than most of California because Unite HERE wants more dues paying members. I am sure the union thought the hotels would just rollover and begin collective bargaining. None have so the unions spent a ton of membership monies and got nothing for themselves. I think most of the hotels are still suffering from poor economic conditions and know they will make no profit or go bankrupt over time or try to sell their property. Who will buy or build a hotel in Long Beach now? Hotel will have to try to raise rates and prices to compensate and probably lose business. Guests can stay at smaller Long Beach hotels or outside Long Beach for less because their costs are lower. Everyone knows Long Beach is the most unfriendly business environment caused by its city council and now it's residents who fell for the unions garbage. Long Beach you get what you deserve. You will have high wage hotel workers at overpriced and low occupancy hotels. I am sure the best employees outside Long Beach will flock to Long Beach ready to take the jobs away from these whining local employees raising the unemployment rate beyond the 12.5% that is currently Long Beach. Congratulations Long Beach. You get what you deserve!!!
POP

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#4 Dec 15, 2012
I hope all the hotels close and leave Long Beach. What will the convention center do if they don't have hotel rooms to sell for conventions? What will all the other businesses do that need tourism and convention business to survive? Will restaurant close and our downtown turn into a ghost town? Congratulations to all the Unions that kill business for the sake of membership dues. California needs a Right to Work law like Michigan just passes and 24 other states support. Close the hotels. They are all evil businesses that just take money and stuff it in their mattresses. Long Beach, you fell for the unions and you can have them. Send business to San Pedro and Seal Beach. We need the business!!!
Ex-Unite Here Member

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#5 Dec 15, 2012
Most of the people that showed up to protest at the Best Western Golden Sails were from Los Angeles and Sacramento. Only 2 people were from Long Beach. Unite Here wants Long Beach hotels because the city council is very, very close to all unions and they believe Long Beach citizens are simple stupid people that can be swayed by promises. Unite Here is big business and does not care about employees. They want more dues paying members. They have found the loophole in this city. Just give them the keys to the city!
LB Worker 911

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#6 Dec 15, 2012
I don't care about business or hotels. I just want my $13 per hour. I don't care if they go out of business or not. I just want what is right. I don't care that smaller hotels pay less or other businesses pay their employees less. That is their problem. I just want my $13 per hour. I don't care about unions either. I don't want to pay union dues. I don't care if hotels have to raise rates or food prices. I don't stay here or buy food here anyway. Just give me my money. Screw the city council they are idiots as well.
RunningLegs

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#7 Dec 15, 2012
I don't blame the hotelsl for trying to figure out a way to stay in business. I don't believe Unite Here, the city council or the general public have ever seen a financial statement of a hotel. Some would be very surprised that there is barely any profit with the current wages. Example is most airlines operate with a 2% profit margin. Expenses have been rising faster than hotels can charges guests. Long Beach will suffer the consequences with lower taxes being paid by these hotels that pay for city services, police and fire. Convention business will go elsewhere and cheaper rates and food prices can be found one city over. Poor Long Beach. You just killed one of your better businesses in the city. Goodbye Hotels. It was knowing you.
historian

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Dec 15, 2012
RunningLegs wrote:
I don't blame the hotelsl for trying to figure out a way to stay in business. I don't believe Unite Here, the city council or the general public have ever seen a financial statement of a hotel. Some would be very surprised that there is barely any profit with the current wages. Example is most airlines operate with a 2% profit margin. Expenses have been rising faster than hotels can charges guests. Long Beach will suffer the consequences with lower taxes being paid by these hotels that pay for city services, police and fire. Convention business will go elsewhere and cheaper rates and food prices can be found one city over. Poor Long Beach. You just killed one of your better businesses in the city. Goodbye Hotels. It was knowing you.
Classic libs in action. They sincerely believe they "mean well," and when their half-backed plans come to fruition, with the unintentionally tragic consequences, they scatter like rats, not to be heard from again.

They hamstrung downtown Long Beach in the late seventies. Trashed the middle-class neighborhoods with section 8 apartment buildings in the eighties, let the crack wars get out of control in the nineties, and now they're gutting the hotel industry.

By the time that hotel businesses are gone, the piece of garbage council members who made it happen will be long gone, as usual. Except maybe one of their ex-wives or husbands.
DIY

Long Beach, CA

#9 Dec 16, 2012
What a crazy place.

At least the unemployeed can enjoy their free checks and EBT accounts over the holidays with their families.

Weekly benefits are limited to 450.00.(wow a 40 hour week at 11.25 and hour)

I guess this is the "fiscal cliff" in spades.
HERE

Long Beach, CA

#10 Dec 16, 2012
The Transient Occupancy Tax for Long Beach is 12% of the rental.

Half goes to the general fund and half to promotional and advertising.

Higher rents (visitors are using our parks, beaches, utilities) from rich vactioners and corporate conventioners (where would you rather we hold our shareholders meeting this winter a sunny beach city in California or Des Moines Iowa?) also raise funds for the city.

Higher wages - mean the workers at the Renaissance Hotel, Queen Mary, Hilton Maya, Holiday Inn Tower (which will never cut back to 99 rooms) will have more money to spend in Long Beach, which generates even more tax revenue.

This is a total win - win situation. And the bill is footed by the fat-cats from out of state.

The Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees Union was formed in 1891. We have a history as long and strong as the UAW or Teamsters.
The Mad Man

Long Beach, CA

#11 Dec 16, 2012
historian wrote:
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Classic libs in action. They sincerely believe they "mean well," and when their half-backed plans come to fruition, with the unintentionally tragic consequences, they scatter like rats, not to be heard from again.
They hamstrung downtown Long Beach in the late seventies. Trashed the middle-class neighborhoods with section 8 apartment buildings in the eighties, let the crack wars get out of control in the nineties, and now they're gutting the hotel industry.
By the time that hotel businesses are gone, the piece of garbage council members who made it happen will be long gone, as usual. Except maybe one of their ex-wives or husbands.
Be careful of what you 'wish' for, it may bite you in the butt!!!
Apparently it did in this situation so now what will the unions do? They just put more people on the unemployment line.
RunningLegs

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#13 Dec 16, 2012
HERE wrote:
The Transient Occupancy Tax for Long Beach is 12% of the rental.
Half goes to the general fund and half to promotional and advertising.
Higher rents (visitors are using our parks, beaches, utilities) from rich vactioners and corporate conventioners (where would you rather we hold our shareholders meeting this winter a sunny beach city in California or Des Moines Iowa?) also raise funds for the city.
Higher wages - mean the workers at the Renaissance Hotel, Queen Mary, Hilton Maya, Holiday Inn Tower (which will never cut back to 99 rooms) will have more money to spend in Long Beach, which generates even more tax revenue.
This is a total win - win situation. And the bill is footed by the fat-cats from out of state.
The Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees Union was formed in 1891. We have a history as long and strong as the UAW or Teamsters.
So is the Union going to help market Long Beach now? You must be kidding. Long Beach is still a secondary destination in SoCal and always will be with this unfriendly visitor and business attitude. You do realize that half of these hotel workers don't live in Long Beach and will spend money in other cities. You have a bad argument. Fat cats? When were you born? Have you heard about the recession or Michigan voting to become the 24th Right to Work state or Hostess closing business because the unions would not negotiate wages and benefits which put 18,000 people out of work? What planet are you from? Long Beach will become an overpriced city with unfair business practices that divide small hotels and large hotel creates a very unhealthy environment for future business growth. It used to be a great place to live and work. Not any more. You also forgot that each of the hotels collect 3% tourism tax that help market the city and convention center. Yes, these guests coming to our hotels are really fat cats that pay your wages.
SanPedroCC

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#14 Dec 16, 2012
Let the unions have Long Beach and force hotels to raise prices beacuse they are paying the highest hotel wages in LA. It means more business for my city. We need the business. Thank you.
TimeWise

Long Beach, CA

#15 Dec 17, 2012
Our Long Beach city council are morons to let this happen. They have always favored unions and are afraid of them. They will never say no to unions. It's who they are and want this city to become. Shame on you Long Beach!
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#16 Dec 17, 2012
Who will replace the 75? or will the remaining employees pick up the slack at the same houly rate?
very sad

Los Angeles, CA

#17 Dec 17, 2012
Bruno wrote:
Who will replace the 75? or will the remaining employees pick up the slack at the same houly rate?
They don't replace. They just "seal off" a number a rooms that they estimate won't be used for the year. The Golden Sails doesn't make a lot of profits. Hopefully one of the lager hotels will go under so business will be driven to Golden Sails to keep them from going under.

Hell of a way to have to run a business. Just hoping the city council manages to bankrupt a competitor before it bankrupts you.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#18 Dec 18, 2012
Thank you revolutionary Council, but don't you think you and your taxpayer subsidized NGOs should stick to harassing decent worker ("middle") class Long Beachers who enjoy the simple worker class pleasure of partaking in an occasional tobacco product? After all they have no one to defend their interests, seeing that any individual or organization coming to their defense is portrayed as working in the interests of nationalized Big Tobacco or Big Plastic Grocery Bag.

Ronald
hopeful

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Dec 18, 2012
Ronald wrote:
Thank you revolutionary Council, but don't you think you and your taxpayer subsidized NGOs should stick to harassing decent worker ("middle") class Long Beachers who enjoy the simple worker class pleasure of partaking in an occasional tobacco product? After all they have no one to defend their interests, seeing that any individual or organization coming to their defense is portrayed as working in the interests of nationalized Big Tobacco or Big Plastic Grocery Bag.
Ronald
gee. you hadn't posted in a while. we were hoping you had killed yourself. Maybe for new year's?
zdolphn

Hayward, CA

#20 Dec 18, 2012
Clearly, you do not have a grasp on micro-economics. These hotels compete with those nearby, that are not shackled with artificial wage props. I think we can figure out which hotels are going to thrive and succeed and which will fail. I won't be staying in Long Beach again because the people there are stupid.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#21 Dec 18, 2012
I would think people would stay at a hotel that offers the best sevice you get what you pay for

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