Ownership is a lie
Posted in the London Forum
#1 Nov 24, 2012
Screw this country let it burn. Either way, they get the taxes or the taxes AND the property.
#2 Nov 24, 2012
Now that is quite a nasty, unpatriotic remark and slap in our soldier's faces and you should be ashamed. What is this all of a sudden complaining about everything in this country while in fact nothing has changed about the way we do things. Is it because we have a black President some don't approve of? Is this what is causing such insanity that you want to purposely destroy our country? You need to spend some time in a war-torn country, central Africa or Iran and you'll get a wakeup call real quickly and learn that all your complaining is pure shi- and nothing less.
Stop the ignorance before you conservatives destroy this country. Not everyone wants to go down with you.
#3 Nov 24, 2012
This country has been headed down a one way trip to he11 and you know it.
Plus, Bushbama signed NDAA 2013 (H.R. 4310 back in June.
LAND OF THE FREE?
How can Amerika be the land of the free when we have more laws on the books – and more people in prison for allegedly breaking them – than any other nation in the world?
Doubt that? Read this:
“So which country has the most laws regulating its citizenry? After looking high and low I discovered that the country with the most laws – not just today, but in all of history is… the United States. We not only have the most laws in all of history, but we also turn out more new laws and regulations to manage our people every single year than most countries turn out in decades.
“These new laws have come with an infusion of money into an expanded security system on the state and federal levels, including more public surveillance cameras, tens of thousands of security personnel and a massive expansion of a terrorist-chasing bureaucracy.”
“Half of the world’s prison population of about nine million is held in the US, China or Russia. Prison rates in the US are the world’s highest, at 724 people per 100,000.”
“Incarceration in the United States is one of the main forms of punishment and/or rehabilitation for the commission of felony and other offenses. The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. At year-end 2009 it was 743 adults incarcerated per 100,000 population. According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) 2,266,800 adults were incarcerated in U.S. federal and state prisons, and county jails at year-end 2010 – about 0.7% of adults in the U.S. resident population. Additionally, 4,933,667 adults at year-end 2009 were on probation or on parole.”
HOME OF THE BRAVE?
How can Amerika be the home of the brave when our cowardly and illegal drone attacks are killing thousands of innocent civilians – many falsely counted as “combatants”,“militants” or “terrorists”– while at the same time more of our troops commit suicide every year than get killed in action?
Doubt that? Read this:
“Drones raise questions about the growing disconnect between the American public and its wars. Military ethicists concede that drones can turn war into a video game and, with no Americans directly at risk, more easily draw the United States into conflicts… The number of civilian deaths caused by drone strikes is unclear, and hotly contested. A report in February 2012 by the London-based Bureau of Investigative Journalism said that drone strikes on suspected militants in Pakistan have repeatedly targeted rescuers who responded to the scene of a strike, as well as mourners at subsequent funerals.”
In Pakistan (an American “ally”) alone, through mid-August last year as many as 2,956 people were killed and another 1,158 injured by U.S. drone attacks. Many were labelled “militants”, but the death toll includes at least 175 children and as many as 781 verified civilians.
#4 Nov 24, 2012
Despite all this collateral damage, no more than 150 “named militants” were killed. And again, these statistics are for Pakistan alone. How many more innocent children, women and men have Bushbama's immoral drone strikes murdered in Afghanistan, the Middle East, Africa and elsewhere?
“Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.”
“From 2005 to 2010,[U.S.] service members took their own lives at a rate of approximately one every 36 hours. While suicides in the Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard have been relatively stable and lower than those of the ground forces, U.S. Army suicides have climbed steadily since 2004. The Army reported a record-high number of suicides in July 2011 with the deaths of 33 active and reserve component service members reported as suicides. Suicides in the Marine Corps increased steadily from 2006 to 2009, dipping slightly in 2010. It is impossible, given the paucity of current data, to determine the suicide rate among veterans with any accuracy. However, the VA estimates that a veteran dies by suicide every 80 minutes. Moreover, although only 1 percent of Americans have served in the military, former service members represent 20 percent of suicides in the United States.”
“For the second year (2010) in a row, more US soldiers killed themselves (468) than died in combat (462).‘If you… know the one thing that causes people to commit suicide, please let us know,’ General Peter Chiarelli told the Army Times,‘because we don’t know.’ Suicide is a tragic but predictable human reaction to being asked to kill – and watch your friends be killed – particularly when it’s for a war based on lies.”
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#5 Nov 24, 2012
you are right rosean.
nobody is free anymore.
and the arab occults of islam and the muslims is cutting through the red tape to take over america, and our presidents have been selling america to the arabs for many years now. and they got the nerve to say we have cults.
their way of execution is beheading the ones who wont conform to their ways. rev 13
this is a witch's sacrifice for more power, when they will have till jesus comes to take their power away.
#6 Nov 24, 2012
This is a free country. If you don't like it here--you are free to leave. We live in the greatest country in the world. The work ethic has gone to hell in a hand basket. All people want is a handout. "Obama" bucks to sit on their asses.
#7 Nov 24, 2012
Roseanna, the reason we have so many laws is most likely because we are the most ethnically diversified nation. If anything, it's been the freedoms we've been so graceful in, that is working to our detriment now. And due to the fact that we are where we are due to decades of allowance, being so anti-govt. at this point can only progressively lead to a self-destructive civil war.
This is 21st century. Drones are a part of it. Pakistan harbored terrorists, such as bin Laden. There's no way that compound sat so close to a Pakistanee military base and them not know who was in it. He was there practically since the onset. He lived in a small village before he moved to that compound.
#8 Nov 24, 2012
What I feel dreadful was two things.#1 - ever starting the Middle East eternal war, and,#2- 3,000 of our Americans were killed, attacked on American soil. After we are attacked on our soil, something has to transpire. I don't know that I'd have handled it like Bush did, but, he did. It is what it is. Drones are 21st century. It is a shame that innocent civilians are killed in the process, but, war is war. In a perfect world, we wouldn't need or have to have Wars. We don't. Subsequently, we can't pick and choose after the fact.
Muslims have been breeding for quite some time. Factually, I saw a study that showed if it weren't for the Spanish immigration in our country, Muslims would already have us outnumbered. For that, should we appreciate the the Spanish immigrants? Do I fear penetration in this country and a progressive onslot? Yes, I do unfortunately and it's Biblical. Subsequently, what is God's Plan is God's Plan and no President or governing power anywhere has the power to change direction of God's Plan.
I feel what's hurting this country the most right now is it's ignorant division going on. We are destroying ourselves. We'll be easy meat for the Muslims because WE can't even get along ourselves. They do. That's alot of what's destroying this country and they are sitting back and watching exactly what old Castro said years ago. Castro said the wealthy would take over the U.S. and how far off is he, unfortunately? There's one thing I KNOW about immigrants and that is, they stick together. We don't. That's where we lose. Our own ignorances. The Confederates lost the war due to nothing but sheer ignorance and now, the entire country is doing it. People better stop and think. This isn't the old days. This is 21st century, we're in a new technological era and can be destroyed at the blink of an eye. Bottom line is, all this bullshi- needs to stop. One thing I'm equipped with and that is...common sense.
#10 Nov 25, 2012
I want my service time back because this was what my teachers and the army, government progams all, said I was fighting for, that is defending our citizens from foreign powers who would like to treat us as we are being treated! Property rights are being absolutely shredded all over America. Buying a piece of land and enjoying it with your family has always been a big part of the American Dream. Think you actually own property anymore? Think again. You DO NOT own property but rather rent it and live in it with the permission of the Govt. because they can,do and will take it away at anytime for any reason. If they can't find a reason, they will create one.
#11 Nov 25, 2012
The Government isn't treating us fairly?
I'm not too worried, just pissed, every time a government has truly pissed it's people off they ended up in the history books.
#12 Nov 25, 2012
Blind ignorance truly is a sad thing.
#13 Nov 25, 2012
Great...when banks don't have money, we bail them out. When we don't have money, we get thrown in the streets by the same banks. Great system, America!
#14 Nov 25, 2012
You are one of the few Roseanna. Bless you.
#15 Nov 25, 2012
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. Tacitus I believe.
#16 Nov 25, 2012
...and without banks, people in most cases, could not function. We take loans to buy homes. We take loans to start businesses. We take loans to expand businesses. We use bank loans or Lines of Credit when business is down to meet payroll. We used banks to buy cars. We use banks to fund education. Banks have to stay solvent, or, bottom line is, we don't as a whole. Not everyone is capable of saving enough money to fund their lifetime.
The TRUE problem is again, back to "we the people". We became greedy. We started a long time ago living beyond our means. We have to have the finest and we have to have it NOW. We have to have a bigger house than our neighbor...a newer car than our neighbor. Our kids have to have the latest in everything...iphones, ipods touch, ipads, Nike's, Ugg boots. And we just have to have at least 2 HUGE family vacations every year because WE desserve it. We eat out more than we eat in. We buy foreign cars. We support the China-filled Walmarts. WE destroy ourselves and then we blame govt.? Our spoiled, gluttened demands is precisely what has created what we see today. For that, the govt. makes no apologies.
Never own land? Have you ever, or was this just invented under Obama? Is not owning land that you eventually die anyway and forget you ever had it to start with, such a important feat that we must try to topple our govt. for? Has greed gone that far? Is having money in 5 foreign bank accts. that you die off and leave so important? Is political vendetta or hatred for the color of a skin so important? Bottom line is, we all die someday and when we do, we know nothing! Life is a blink of the eye compared to eternity, so why is it that material things dominate American life? Why is it that materialistic thinking is destroying this country little by little.
#17 Nov 25, 2012
You are correct about the greed and materialistic thinking, but as usual its twisted. The bank doesn’t loan its money or its depositors money, by law it can't, it creates money from your CREDIT, your signature only and gives it to you, then pretends to be your creditor. If I deposit a bond or promissory note worth $150,000 cash (a security), and withdraw a $150,000 check or get a line of credit for $150,000, that is an exchange, it is not a loan , that is the major fraud being played out on all of us.
The Federal Reserve Bank publications, I Bet You Thought, page 27, and Modern Money Mechanics, pages 2-25, and others admit that the bank creates new money every time that banks grant loans, that the promissory note is money, and that the bank records a loan from you to the bank, resulting in a new bank liability. The new bank liability shows that the bank owes you money from recording the promissory note as a loan from you to the bank.
The banks create the money using our signature and the true nature and the true cause of the paperwork that you are filling out is never divulged, while they insist on being paid back the principal and interest in real money, earned with the sweat of the brow.
The bank never loaned other depositors' money to us, THEY CAN'T, and the bank never loaned one cent of the bank's money to us, they don't. We funded the loan, as proven by the bank's $150,000 bank liability.
When banks deposit the borrower's promissory note into an account, the bank accepted the promissory note as money. If you deposit money at the bank, it is the same as loaning the bank the money. If you deposit or loan the bank money, you can or should get that money back.
Who was injured as a result?
The point is there was never any money loaned. The borrower's (us) did not get any money, we just thought we did, this is the fraud. The bank got our promissory note and a contract enslaving us to 30 years of payments and made ten times the loan valued without ever bringing anything to the table. The Promissory note funded the whole transaction and several others we was unaware of.
The bank cannot prove they had money in an account they loaned us, because it was created on the spot BY US signing the note.
This means that if you lose your home due to foreclosure, you have been a victim of government backed fraud .
#18 Nov 25, 2012
I am thankful for surveillance cameras and regulations. We are more safe for them. Wars always have included many civilians being killed, that is just how it has always been. As for prisoners, I believe we do need more rehabs built, and the strike 3 laws cut out. Marijuana should also become legal to a certain extent, which would generate monies and lessen the tax payers burdens for keeping up the prisoners.
#19 Nov 25, 2012
No, it isn't twisted. That's your opinion.
Firstly, ask yourself WHY you would deposit a bond or promissory note, then take a check for same? What you refer to as security basically is better known as collateral in this case. When an L/C is taken, I don't believe collateral is always required. You're opening an L/C because you need the money to function that you do not have or you don't have liquid. Thus, you need the bank.
Don't bring anything to table? Are you totally clueless? When you take a mortgage on a home, sure, the home is the collateral. It's called risk factor. Why do you think they lost their rears in the housing crisis? They risk far too much. Even though they have more money than we, their risks are far greater. Yes, they have a piece of collateral. Firstly, a bank never knows how long it'll take to sell a house under foreclosure. They are responsible for the taxes on that property, and upkeep of the lawn, insurance, etc. on the property until it's sold because taxes take precedence over the bank. Their expenses are ongoing while they loaned money, say $200,000 on a house that went belly up in 2 yrs. Risk. You've got bankruptcies every day of the week. Risk. Banks take on alot of responsibility despite what you think. So, you are totally wrong and feel free to contradict what I'm stating.
#20 Nov 25, 2012
Agree, you're right about mary jane generated more revenue. It would also downsize cartel. But more importantly, we have a weak generation on our hands obviously since the U.S.has the greatest demand for drugs, thus why we have the cartel. Again, it's back to "we the people" destroying ourselves then trying to find someone else to blame for it. I also am concerned with this weak generation that sometimes starting with mary jane gets to the point that the mary jane user needs more to satisfy her. I'm not saying everyone is that way, but alot are. Why do we think people jump of the sides of mountains on a balloon. They love the high they get, so, they are willing to take the risks. Not good. Evil Knievel never saw a truck he didn't want to jump, thus every bone in his body broken multiple times.
#21 Nov 25, 2012
Wow- this runs the gamut from intelligent to f%$kin' stupid. If you don't like the system, leave. France could use a few more winners like you. If you are embarrased about serving in the miliitary I am sad that you wasted a paycheck that could have gone to another, more deserving citizen. Military service is a privelge, not a right a$$ munch. You suck worse than any terrorist traitor face. It's Ameria folks, the land of opportunity. You aren't guarenteed success, you have to compete for it. Laws exist, if you don't like laws go to Iraq, they have way fewer ones.
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